Mileage

Discussion in '60-Series Wagons' started by jeverich, Feb 11, 2009.

  1. jeverich

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    I know, it's already been brought up before....

    Basic division is about as far as my math skills go -

    Mileage on the way up (with about 20/30 miles of city driving, and heavy traffic)
    157 Miles on ODO, took 13.8 Gallons to fill tank

    Stand by for mileage/gallons of fuel for return trip....

    Both ways, holding a steady 2500 RPM, running NEW 33x10.5s, 3.73 stockers

    Some one be kind and do the math for me - please?

    - jake
     
  2. alkarich

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    157mi/13.8gal = 11.37 mpg
     
  3. 2mbb

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    You also need to do a correction for the larger than stock tire size. the odometer measures rotations of the drive shaft, but doesn't know what size the tires are (or if you have changed your differential gearing). Since the 33" tire is larger than stock, you actually traveled more miles than the odometer says. To correct the mileage, you need to multiply the mileage by the new tire diameter and divide by the original tire diameter. Assuming the stock tire diameteris 28", then:

    Actual Miles = 157*33/28=185 miles

    Therefore the acutal mpg = 185mi/13.8gal = 13.4mpg

    Because your tires are larger, you are also travelling faster than what it says on your speedometer--your actual speed is 18% higher than your measured speed. If your speedometer say's 55mph you are really travelling 65mph. You can thank me in advance for the speeding ticket I'm saving you from...
     
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    i got about 13.5ish mpg from golden colorado to just north of green river utah one time also on 33s and corrected... so that sounds about right...
     
  5. alkarich

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    D'oh! Missed that.
     
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    Mathematically that correction factor is right. Multiplying mileage by the ratio of new and old diameters will give you actual miles driven. (We are really interested in circumference, more specifically tire revolutions per mile, but because pi is both on the top and bottom of the ratio they cancel.)

    However on the road I noticed that this math didn't work out on my rigs. Assuming the Speedometer checks on the freeway are measured out correctly, my stock FJ60 with 31" always came up 10% off. Doing the math, it should be 30.7/28.5=7.7%. Even after 40 miles on the freeway, it was exactly 10% low. I got bored watching after 40 miles, but I have repeated the experiment several times on different road trips and different stretches of freeway with the same result. My FJ62 with the same tires read was nearly spot on, only off by maybe 1 or 2%.

    I don't know if the POs modified the speedometers/odometers on these Cruisers or not. Regardless, I recommend measuring the error on your odometer vehicle by vehicle.
     
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    Wife and I went from Dallas to Little Rock. We were pleased at 18 mpg,running stock and light load. Mike
     
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    And who wouldn't be happy with those kind of numbers
     
  9. jeverich

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    New Numbers

    Return trip

    8.916 Gallons @ 123 Miles entirely Highway

    2mbb....already used the 'speedo correction' excuse with local law enforcement - the officer understood, in fact - he thought the truck was pretty cool.

    Thanks for the help

    - jake
     
  10. jeverich

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    answer?

    I think I just answered my own question using 2mbb's formula

    Here goes -

    123 ODO miles x 33 = 4059

    3444 / 28 = 144.9

    144.9 / 8.9 = 16.2?

    Is that correct?
     
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    yep. :beer:
     
  12. 2mbb

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    the correction factor used for the odometer would be the same correction factor used for the speedometer--assuming the speedometer is an accurate reflection of the odometer. I think the odometer actually measures the number of times the speedo cable turns. The speedometer (somehow) measures the rate of spinning.

    anyway, my point is, if you have access to a GPS you can easily determine the ratio between the acutal speed (from GPS) and the measured speed (speedometer). You can then use this ratio to correct your odometer. Or you can find one of the freeway speedometer checks mentioned above, and use it to confirm the accuracy of your odometer.

    The "theorectical" correction factor based on tire diameters given above is not precise because a tire does not generally measure out at it's given size, and then the rolling diameter is also influenced by inflation pressure and the total vehicle weight.

    My approach is not to worry about it too much. I do a calculation from time to time, but that is mostly used as a trigger for me to do some preventitive maintenance--time for valve adjustment--or an indicator that something might be wrong. You won't win many MPG bragging contests by coming to the table with a 2F. If that's your thing, you should look into a diesel conversion, or work on your poker face and just lie about it.
     
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    ...

    ....just looking for an estimate is all....

    not planning on replacing the 2F anytime soon - after all, it's a crew cab tractor
     
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    well one time in nevada i reset my trip meter at a mile marker... no stops or detours, as the trip meter rolled over 100 miles, i had travelled between 113 and 114 mile marker signs... and i used that for my correction for my 33s (it was slightly later in the same trip that i measure the 13.5 ish mpg)
     
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