Well I don't want to bug you guys to much. I know you are sick of the OME subject, But I have a diesel so its a little different. Just want to be sure before I drop the cash. Front: 1HD-T diesel. 2 optima batteries, ARB and M8000 warn winch (roller fairlead) Rear: rear ladder, rear tire carrier, full size spare. 100lbs of gear. roof rack. Future plans, sliders and rear drawer. adding a rear drawer will mean more gear again. Anyways, I already know I want a OME heavy lift. Thinking 863 in the back. So I am wondering about the front. Is the 850 to light for all my wieght? Should I go 850J? I heard the J was mean for diesels. I want the back to sit 3/4 of an inch higher. So when I get everything in, there will be a slight 1/2 to 5/8 rake. I do load up the back on occasion. gear and people. And tow once or twice a year. So thinking 850J and 863. This sound right? Or should I got 863J's in the back? Or 850/863 with spacers. Someone please help, I think my diesel is throwing things off. Can't find any good threads with diesels. No one in the international/diesel section can help me. Just don't want the front or back to be to high. I am not a rock cralwer. I do more expedition wheeling, Many many thanks, Nick BTW: I am think about signing up for ROTW. Would like to share my diesel 80 with you.