Kaymar Bumper with both arms installed. (1 Viewer)

[dtt255]

Here is a pic with the Kaymar bumper installed with BOTH arms also installed.

Looks kick arse.

I have gotten more comments about the rear bumper with arms then the front!

Notice a couple of things:

That the Plate has to be moved....no way around it. I am just itching for a Fix-IT ticket here in Cali.

California approved Jerry cans which are actually 5.25 gallons will NOT fit in there. I am pissed as that is all I have. Man-a-Fre says that they get in Jerry Cans from Australia, but they are few and far between. I am going to have to try to order some NATO 5 gallon cans and see if they fit.

 

[JBHorne]

Looks good!

 

[1loudLX]

SICK! Looks great.

 

[007-FJC]

I love it!

 

[mo.africa]

AWESOME!
Yours must be 1 of the best rigged 200's in the world.

 

[zornff]

Ok, i have a couple questions. Do you plan on installing the back up sensors and is the camera usable ? Does it rattle on rough roads ? I am asking 'cause it looks kickarse, but i h8 rattles.

Thanks,

Mike

 

[boobook]

dt255

Coupla things.

1)Put some thick clear tape where the clamps will touch the rear bar when closing the arms. Kaymar now supply them like that and it stops the rear bar getting chipped and looking crappy.

2)My Licence plate is mounted to the back of the Jerry can holder. Looks ok. Not sure about the legalities in the US though.

3)No rattles, zip, zilch after 10,000miles wth lots of dirt corrigated roads.

4)There are "OEM looking" cameras on ebay. search for Land Cruiser 200 camera. Might be useful to reposition the camera if there are issues.

If you get stuck with the the Jerry's let me know if I can help.

 

[dtt255]

Ok, i have a couple questions. Do you plan on installing the back up sensors and is the camera usable ? Does it rattle on rough roads ? I am asking 'cause it looks kickarse, but i h8 rattles.

Thanks,

Mike

Those parking sensors won't work. They are too darn big. they must be at least an inch long and half an inch deep. There is no way to get them in. I have some aftermarket ones coming to me soon and am going to try them out. They are stick ons, not ones that need to be drilled.

Camera is completely unusable with the jerry cans on. With just the tire carrier on, it is ok. I am in the process of getting that fixed also I will do a write up on that when it is done.

No rattles yet, and don't expect any.

dt255

Coupla things.

1)Put some thick clear tape where the clamps will touch the rear bar when closing the arms. Kaymar now supply them like that and it stops the rear bar getting chipped and looking ****py.

2)My Licence plate is mounted to the back of the Jerry can holder. Looks ok. Not sure about the legalities in the US though.

3)No rattles, zip, zilch after 10,000miles wth lots of dirt corrigated roads.

4)There are "OEM looking" cameras on ebay. search for Land Cruiser 200 camera. Might be useful to reposition the camera if there are issues.

If you get stuck with the the Jerry's let me know if I can help.

Clear tape....got it.....thanks!

I put my license plate in the same area....I will post pics later of it.

Like I mentioned above.....the camera issue I am working on.

Good to see you on here boobook!

 

[donjuanmiguel]

The rear looks great! Nice pics.

 

[chimyz]

I might as well say it too (since everyone else loves DTT's arse)...your arse is friggen hot!!! Love the loaded up big booty.

 

[dtt255]

I might as well say it too (since everyone else loves DTT's arse)...your arse is friggen hot!!! Love the loaded up big booty.

I always knew how you felt Marc

 

[chimyz]

I always knew how you felt Marc

LOL...now the whole world knows.

 

[chimyz]

Seriously though...nice looking rig DTT.

 

[Mtnbike]

How does the Kaymar rear bumper stack up to the rear ARB?

 

[dtt255]

How does the Kaymar rear bumper stack up to the rear ARB?

It is slot styl choice. They both do the same things. I liked th style better if thr kaymar, that is why I chose it.

 

[JBHorne]

How does the Kaymar rear bumper stack up to the rear ARB?

I think it really depends. I've slammed my rear end so hard that both side quarter panels bent upwards and the floor plate of the ARB hit the bottom lip of the rear hatch. This happens when you have no choice but to decend a large 2-3' step. The rear tires roll off, and then SLAM you hit the rear bumper.

After seeing the pictures of how the kaymar is assembled, I cannot see how it would take this kind of "abuse". The ARB has a steel tube reinforcement and is a solid construction, whereas the Kaymar relies on mounts to hold it to the frame and it is a two-piece design. I guarantee that I would have damaged the Kaymar by now...

Also I think I would have damaged the ARB deluxe as well by now. There is very little clearance/tolerance for the swing out arms, and one good slam on the rear end could bind those pivot points.

If you are looking for sheer strength, the ARB has to be stronger. The question is if you need this or not.

Where Mitch is, I think the ARB works great. It's a very clean look as well. So don't get me wrong here -- I like the looks of both, I just cannot see the Kaymar as having the same structural integrity as the ARB.

Just my $0.02....

 

[Mtnbike]

I want a rear bumper that will total a car when they rear end me. I wish the ARB offered better departure angle. Your right, I think they both look good. I am doing the tire attachment only. I never liked having a tire under the truck. It sounds from what your saying that the ARB is a better built bumper which doesn't surprise me. I think the Kaymar offers a better departure angle though.

 

[JBHorne]

I want a rear bumper that will total a car when they rear end me.

If you are adding a steel bumper hoping it improves safety, no offense, you need to do some research. The purpose of a bumper is to colapse under pressure, something a steel bumper doesn't do very effectively. I would not think of my vehicle as safer than stock in an accident, especially in a rollover with the added weight compressing the A and B pillars...

You are by far safer in an accident with the stock bumpers that absorb the impact energy and do not transfer said energy to the occupants. Simple physics really.

 

[JBHorne]

I just looked again at how the Kaymar connects to the vehicle. There are 2 brackets which attach it to the quarter panels, and then another two that attach it to the frame on each side behind the rear tires. There is no bracket or structure holding it to the frame from the rear, whereas the ARB has 4 points of attachment directly to the frame with a total of 6 bolts.

The difference here is that when the body flexes, the Kaymar flexes with the body, whereas the ARB flexes with the frame. This is why the Kaymar can operate with no gap between the bumper and the plastic body panels. The ARB requires the usual 15mm. I have about 10mm and that is why mine has dented the quarter panels as the body flexes asynchronously to the frame.

I'm not bashing anyone's choices here -- just saying that there is a difference that matters on how you intend to use it.

EDIT: Look at Chimyz pics here to see what I am referring to.

https://forum.ih8mud.com/200-series-cruisers/302871-kaymar-rear-bumper-install-thread.html

 

[Mtnbike]

I just looked again at how the Kaymar connects to the vehicle. There are 2 brackets which attach it to the quarter panels, and then another two that attach it to the frame on each side behind the rear tires. There is no bracket or structure holding it to the frame from the rear, whereas the ARB has 4 points of attachment directly to the frame with a total of 6 bolts.

The difference here is that when the body flexes, the Kaymar flexes with the body, whereas the ARB flexes with the frame. This is why the Kaymar can operate with no gap between the bumper and the plastic body panels. The ARB requires the usual 15mm. I have about 10mm and that is why mine has dented the quarter panels as the body flexes asynchronously to the frame.

I'm not bashing anyone's choices here -- just saying that there is a difference that matters on how you intend to use it.

EDIT: Look at Chimyz pics here to see what I am referring to.

https://forum.ih8mud.com/200-series-cruisers/302871-kaymar-rear-bumper-install-thread.html

Thanks for the link to his Kaymar install. It does look nicer, due the fact that it gives it a more factory look and finish. I can see that the ARB is much more durable for impact purposes. About being rear ended with a steel bumper. I was rear ended when I was 18 in my single cab toyota 4x4 with rear steel bumper and with hitch ball attachment in place. There hatchback front end was completely destroyed when they hit me at 15mph. I felt almost zero jarring and my truck had zero damage. Well it had a scratch on the ball from the hood of there car. I had a three inch lift with 33" tires. A friend of mine was rear ended a year and half ago in her LX470. She said that the other drive was doing 30mph while she was stopped at a light. She also had a steel rear bumper and received only minor damage to her bumper but felt hardly any impact. The owner of the other car had the hood up to there windshield and crushed the whole front end. The lady had to go to the hospital for neck injuries and minor burn to her face from her cars airbag. The funny thing is, my friend also had the ball and receiver connected at the time. Maybe thats the ticket for winning in rear end accidents. Any thoughts?