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Hello to all -
I'm not going to be able to make it to the July meeting, so I wanted to give a brief TLCA update. The budget continues to squeak by, but the biggest news is that Mark Algazy (of Mark's Offroad) is going to donate a 1977 FJ-40 to be built up and raffled off to benefit TLCA.
Just in case anyone is interested in the details, I will copy his VERY long introductory message below. The details are still being worked out, legal and otherwise. I guess California has some very strict rules about gambling and many other things.
Enjoy the meeting, and read below only if you are interested. I hope to see everyone next time.
Evan
********************************
From Mark Algazy:
[This is probably the LONGEST e-mail you?ll ever have to read from me; for that I apologize. Once you understand what it?s about, you?ll see why. PLEASE DO NOT SHARE THIS E-mail with anyone until AFTER Thursday?s BODreps meeting.] After the BOD meeting, there will be several threads in the TLCA forum for the different aspects of the project to be discussed publicly.
Like most of the active members of the BOD, I have spent quite a bit of time wondering what else we could be doing to improve the financial situation of the TLCA. As fate would have it, I find myself in somewhat of a better position to help than the average guy, being that I own my own Landcruiser business. Having witnessed the countless volunteer hours and energies of good cruiser heads that were wasted over the last four years on TLCA merchandising programs, I was very disappointed to learn that this old ghost had raised it?s head again. I posted something online about this. Then I made the fateful decision three weeks ago to put my money where my mouth is.
At the June meeting of the Los Angeles County Trail Crew I announced my intention to DONATE a 1977 FJ40 to the TLCA to be used as the platform for a raffle project. A lengthy discussion ensued over the parameters of the project, some constructive issues were raised to be explored further, and based on their resolution, I decided to move forward.
Why am I doing this?
1. Fundraising. I thought and obviously still think that this will make a great fundraiser for the TLCA. Sales of raffle tickets should easily reach into the tens of thousands of dollars, far outstripping what any merchandising campaign could net us for the manpower invested.
2. Community. As I learned again last summer when I orchestrated the resurrection of my buddy?s FJ45LV [which was filmed for a reality TV show] amazingly positive things can happen when people get together for a common purpose. The outpouring of generosity and goodwill that went into that project left with me an impression that will last a lifetime. I think it would go a long way towards improving the morale of those whose support of TLCA is waning if we could unite at the national level for a common purpose.
3. Marketing. Once the vehicle is built, sales of raffle tickets, and the public display of the vehicle at promotional opportunities will probably proceed in earnest. Through these various public promotions, TLCA has a great opportunity to increase it?s exposure to the public and increase opportunities for membership. In layman?s terms, it makes for a great rolling billboard. It is also a great opportunity to become a rolling billboard for all of our vendors to contribute to
4. Enlightened self interest. . It is my hope that donating a vehicle I paid $3500.00 for will generate a substantial amount of goodwill for Mark?s Off Road and erase any possible perception that I don?t support TLCA because I don?t advertise in TT. All that I have explicitly asked for in return for this donation is that my company name be included on the masthead for ALL promotional materials, including the raffle tickets.
In the ensuing two weeks since our club?s meeting, I started making lots of phone calls, asking the questions and doing the backroom work I necessary to make sure this project would be viable BEFORE it was publicly announced. I contacted Jeff Zepp, who was as enthusiastic about the project as I was. He suggested I contact Timm Buchanan to make sure our insurance policy would cover this. Timm came back with an affirmative. I contacted Casey Campbell to investigate the tax consequences for TLCA. Things were going pretty smoothly. Then I had a flash!
I had already told Jeff and Timm that I thought it would be cool if we could hold the raffle drawing at Rubithon in 2010, and had already approached Tony Twiddy about this possibility. I figured that would basically give us a year to build and promote the truck, and it would help bolster TLCA?s biggest national event. Then, on Friday June 12th, I had this crazy marketing idea that it would be really cool if we could start some ?buzz? for the project AT RUBITHON THIS YEAR!
On the phone with Jeff and Tony again. If I could get a ?teaser? [purposely short on details] flyer made by Monday the 15th, could Tony get it into the registration packets for the event, which starts on the 17th? Tony said yes! Jeff suggested Matt Farr could do the job of making the flyer. I called Matt. Matt said he could and would do it. I spent the weekend fretting about it, but sure enough, late Sunday night, there was a draft in my Inbox! We quickly bounced around the verbage, and by Monday afternoon, it had Jeff and Tony?s seal of approval. Hopefully the Rubithon attendees will come home and start chatting on the forums about the mystery raffle project in the days leading up to the BOD official announcement, and we can draw on the initial rush of curiosity to energize the build.
I have put a considerable amount of time into considering how the project should progress, and am including my thoughts on that below. However, I want to make it clear that I DO NOT want to be the one in charge of this project. There are many reasons for this, but two will do: I think donating the truck and doing the backround work to ensure a successful launch are sufficient.
The way I see it, the project will require four managers.
BUILD. One manager will need to coordinate the actual building of the truck, organizing which clubs, groups and individuals will take on the aspects of rebuilding or refurbishing the different components of the truck. I envision several clubs from around the State of California getting involved in this project. So the build manager will also need to coordinate who will take the truck where and when. I spoke with Ige Gustavsen at length last night about the raffle project. I was very encouraged to hear her independently confirm my thought that getting the vehicle painted should be very close to the TOP of the list of things to do.
PARTS. As I see it, we should have one person designated as the lead for acquiring the replacement parts and accessories that will be donated for the project. Though the clubs from back East will probably not be able to participate directly in the physical work of assembling the vehicle, they should in no means be discouraged from having a stake in the project by locating and donating the various parts and accessories it will take to make this a prized prize. BUT, we don?t want to see multiple parties approaching vendors for the same or conflicting accessories. SO, I think there should be ONE person that has a master list of the vehicle?s WISH LIST, and that person should be contacted BEFORE third parties are approached for contributions. And the WISH LIST should probably be posted in a forum.
DISPLAY. We are very fortunate to have in the Trail Crew a member named Ron Quivitas who, among other things was the Lead Driver for the West Coast Toyota Trail Team. Ron was involved in the wildly successful build of a Toyota Tundra last year. Ron told us at the club meeting that he started with a stock truck and a well-written proposal on how he envisioned the truck being built [the interplay of all the different vendors components and accessories] and when and where he would display the vehicle when it was finished. Based on his written proposal for a coordinated build with substantial public exposure, he secured an amazing amount of parts and accessories.
So where does this lead. I think that we need to put together a list of a. potential places where the raffle vehicle COULD be displayed, b. a way of getting the vehicle from place to place
1.either by finding a few extremely dedicated volunteers or
2. Someone that can coordinate a larger group of volunteers c. A back up plan in case the person or persons involved cannot meet their obligations; d. prepare a list of ACTUAL display locations once we can ensure that we can actually get the vehicle there; e. use THAT list to market to vendors what their public exposure will be
RAFFLE. This management role could conceivably be rolled into our current MSVP?s duties, but I would never make the mistake of assuming that it should be so as a general proposition, or that it would be fair to ask Art to take this on without ACTUALLY ASKING Art if he WOULD take it on. I cannot envision all the work it would take to coordinate the raffle, from printing of paper tickets, developing a way to distribute them, exploring methods of online promotion and sales, and collecting the money!
Again, Ige?s experience in spearheading the raffle vehicle project in Colorado will prove invaluable here. Ige even volunteered to contact the Cal Assn of 4WD clubs to get insights on California-based raffles, which is of some concern to the BOD.
THE BUILD. It would probably help a lot if you knew a bit more about the vehicle involved. The previous owner drove this truck into the body shop for body work and paint approximately three years ago. A substantial amount of the body was stripped, sanded and primered. The primer will now need to be sanded before painting. And a substantial amount of interior and trim pieces are currently missing and will need to be replaced. I will try and put together a list of things that are needed between now and Thursday night.
The Los Angeles County Trail Crew has stepped forwards as an interim advisory council to help make some basic decisions on the build. I felt it was necessary to put the project forwards with some baseline decisions already made, as there are so, so many ways to build a truck that if it were left wide open, we may never reach a consensus to start the build. Being a 77, the truck comes with a running 2F, 4 speed and disc brakes. We decided it would be best to respray the truck in the original white color that was on it, to lift the truck with a mild SOA [even though I am an SUA guy, I?ll be the first to admit that an SOA rig will show well and sell more tickets] on 35? tires.
The way I envision it, we could have different clubs/groups out here on the west coast involved in the refurbishment of the powertrain and body, with different work parties set up to do:
010-Engine Tune up [need cap, rotor, points, plugs, wires, PCV valve] possibly Jim C re-curved distributor
020-Valve adjustment; install painted air cleaner and polished valve cover, air filter, valve cover gasket [TBD] 030-Oil & filter change, check motor mounts 040-Coolant and hose replacement [TBD] Front and rear heaters, hoses, ducts, connectors 050-rebuilt carburetor [supplied by Mark?s Off Road] 054-stock exhaust manifold and exhaust pipe [TBD] 056-stock gas tank [I think I have the cover somewhere!] 060-need some of the smog equipment, including air pump and hoses [TBD] 070-clutch parts [if transmission is removed for service] [TBD] 080-transmission resealed 090-transfer case resealed 100-rear end axle seals and pinion seals. WE NEED TIRES! The truck has some pretty shiny 15x10 chrome spokes, which will probably be fine. I also have access to some 15x10 gloss black rock crawler rims if you choose to go that route.
110-front axle knuckle service, possibly on a different [cut and turned] axle housing 120-steering box resealed, center arm and tie rod ends replaced. Maybe a nicer steering wheel. Should we consider getting involved with a power steering conversion if someone offers to do one. [TBD] 130-new bushings, shackles and shocks on existing or replacement springs. Trac bar for the spring over.
140-replace all hydraulic hoses with stainless braided lines and flush system, possibly replace calipers and rotors. Replace brake master cylinder if we do a rear disc conversion.
150-body. This is where it gets tough to get a complete list up front, but I will note the following
150-headlight buckets, bezel, bezel screws [ I can provide brand new sealed beam headlights] Stock front bumper is there, but a H.D. like CCOT sells would look much better IMO 151-hood rest shims, hood hooks, windshield hooks and windshield rest bumpers, hood hinge pads and screws 152-windshield frame [the one that?s on it is so, so] windshield glass, windshield rubber [I can provide this] windshield wiper motor and linkage, plastic defroster. Upper and lower dash pads Radio cutout insert or stereo.
153-the truck has no top or doors. I do not see this as a problem, as I envision the truck having a MetalTech roll cage, which would be more prominently displayed without top and doors. Perhaps Metaltech half-doors would also be appropriate, and an SOR bikini top.
154-I have both front seats, but they will need to be reupholstered and need some of the brackets, as well as headrests. No jump seats, and I don?t know if those would conflict with the Metaltech cage. SEAT BELTS!
156-carpet kit, stock running boards or sliders, transmission tunnel gasket
157-tailgate panel or functioning tailgate. Might want to leave this unmolested [with the holes for the amby doors] in case the owner wants to install a hardtop.
158-tire carrier [I have it, but don?t have the hook to latch it to, or the rubber stop that goes on the tub] May not be necessary if we can get something like a MAF 4+ tire carrier donated
159-emblems. All missing.
160-Headlights [covered] Front and rear turn signals missing, as well as rear side markers.
163-Instrument cluster-doesn?t look original to the truck. I would recommend a replacement be located.
200-Where do you want to go? I?m picturing HD front and rear bumpers, roll cage and half doors, sliders and maybe some lights. Winch? ARBs? Consoles?
Ige made an excellent point last night about using the work parties as an opportunity to get individuals from the online community involved as well as local chapters. As the work parties are scheduled, people that are not currently in TLCA may get curious enough to come down and get involved. Heck we could end up getting some new members just thru well-advertised work parties!
The Trail Crew has also expressed an interest in providing oversight of the build, putting together standards for how each component be serviced, and checking to the extent feasible that those standards have been met. This IMO is an amazing offer in and of itself, and I believe should entitle the Trail Crew to the special privilege of having their club decal affixed to the rocker panel of the painted rig, as well as some prominent mention any public listing of contributors.
For the PARTS manager, I had the following thoughts in terms of vendor participation [note to readers: PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS LIST GO PUBLIC!][edit: list deleted from second draft; will submit directly to parts manager]
Getting all of this out of my head and on to paper has taken almost 4 hours. It?s all yours now!
Thanks for reading.
Sincerely,
Mark Algazy, owner
Mark?s Off Road Enterprises
TLCA #1086
Hello to all -
I'm not going to be able to make it to the July meeting, so I wanted to give a brief TLCA update. The budget continues to squeak by, but the biggest news is that Mark Algazy (of Mark's Offroad) is going to donate a 1977 FJ-40 to be built up and raffled off to benefit TLCA.
Just in case anyone is interested in the details, I will copy his VERY long introductory message below. The details are still being worked out, legal and otherwise. I guess California has some very strict rules about gambling and many other things.
Enjoy the meeting, and read below only if you are interested. I hope to see everyone next time.
Evan
********************************
From Mark Algazy:
[This is probably the LONGEST e-mail you?ll ever have to read from me; for that I apologize. Once you understand what it?s about, you?ll see why. PLEASE DO NOT SHARE THIS E-mail with anyone until AFTER Thursday?s BODreps meeting.] After the BOD meeting, there will be several threads in the TLCA forum for the different aspects of the project to be discussed publicly.
Like most of the active members of the BOD, I have spent quite a bit of time wondering what else we could be doing to improve the financial situation of the TLCA. As fate would have it, I find myself in somewhat of a better position to help than the average guy, being that I own my own Landcruiser business. Having witnessed the countless volunteer hours and energies of good cruiser heads that were wasted over the last four years on TLCA merchandising programs, I was very disappointed to learn that this old ghost had raised it?s head again. I posted something online about this. Then I made the fateful decision three weeks ago to put my money where my mouth is.
At the June meeting of the Los Angeles County Trail Crew I announced my intention to DONATE a 1977 FJ40 to the TLCA to be used as the platform for a raffle project. A lengthy discussion ensued over the parameters of the project, some constructive issues were raised to be explored further, and based on their resolution, I decided to move forward.
Why am I doing this?
1. Fundraising. I thought and obviously still think that this will make a great fundraiser for the TLCA. Sales of raffle tickets should easily reach into the tens of thousands of dollars, far outstripping what any merchandising campaign could net us for the manpower invested.
2. Community. As I learned again last summer when I orchestrated the resurrection of my buddy?s FJ45LV [which was filmed for a reality TV show] amazingly positive things can happen when people get together for a common purpose. The outpouring of generosity and goodwill that went into that project left with me an impression that will last a lifetime. I think it would go a long way towards improving the morale of those whose support of TLCA is waning if we could unite at the national level for a common purpose.
3. Marketing. Once the vehicle is built, sales of raffle tickets, and the public display of the vehicle at promotional opportunities will probably proceed in earnest. Through these various public promotions, TLCA has a great opportunity to increase it?s exposure to the public and increase opportunities for membership. In layman?s terms, it makes for a great rolling billboard. It is also a great opportunity to become a rolling billboard for all of our vendors to contribute to
4. Enlightened self interest. . It is my hope that donating a vehicle I paid $3500.00 for will generate a substantial amount of goodwill for Mark?s Off Road and erase any possible perception that I don?t support TLCA because I don?t advertise in TT. All that I have explicitly asked for in return for this donation is that my company name be included on the masthead for ALL promotional materials, including the raffle tickets.
In the ensuing two weeks since our club?s meeting, I started making lots of phone calls, asking the questions and doing the backroom work I necessary to make sure this project would be viable BEFORE it was publicly announced. I contacted Jeff Zepp, who was as enthusiastic about the project as I was. He suggested I contact Timm Buchanan to make sure our insurance policy would cover this. Timm came back with an affirmative. I contacted Casey Campbell to investigate the tax consequences for TLCA. Things were going pretty smoothly. Then I had a flash!
I had already told Jeff and Timm that I thought it would be cool if we could hold the raffle drawing at Rubithon in 2010, and had already approached Tony Twiddy about this possibility. I figured that would basically give us a year to build and promote the truck, and it would help bolster TLCA?s biggest national event. Then, on Friday June 12th, I had this crazy marketing idea that it would be really cool if we could start some ?buzz? for the project AT RUBITHON THIS YEAR!
On the phone with Jeff and Tony again. If I could get a ?teaser? [purposely short on details] flyer made by Monday the 15th, could Tony get it into the registration packets for the event, which starts on the 17th? Tony said yes! Jeff suggested Matt Farr could do the job of making the flyer. I called Matt. Matt said he could and would do it. I spent the weekend fretting about it, but sure enough, late Sunday night, there was a draft in my Inbox! We quickly bounced around the verbage, and by Monday afternoon, it had Jeff and Tony?s seal of approval. Hopefully the Rubithon attendees will come home and start chatting on the forums about the mystery raffle project in the days leading up to the BOD official announcement, and we can draw on the initial rush of curiosity to energize the build.
I have put a considerable amount of time into considering how the project should progress, and am including my thoughts on that below. However, I want to make it clear that I DO NOT want to be the one in charge of this project. There are many reasons for this, but two will do: I think donating the truck and doing the backround work to ensure a successful launch are sufficient.
The way I see it, the project will require four managers.
BUILD. One manager will need to coordinate the actual building of the truck, organizing which clubs, groups and individuals will take on the aspects of rebuilding or refurbishing the different components of the truck. I envision several clubs from around the State of California getting involved in this project. So the build manager will also need to coordinate who will take the truck where and when. I spoke with Ige Gustavsen at length last night about the raffle project. I was very encouraged to hear her independently confirm my thought that getting the vehicle painted should be very close to the TOP of the list of things to do.
PARTS. As I see it, we should have one person designated as the lead for acquiring the replacement parts and accessories that will be donated for the project. Though the clubs from back East will probably not be able to participate directly in the physical work of assembling the vehicle, they should in no means be discouraged from having a stake in the project by locating and donating the various parts and accessories it will take to make this a prized prize. BUT, we don?t want to see multiple parties approaching vendors for the same or conflicting accessories. SO, I think there should be ONE person that has a master list of the vehicle?s WISH LIST, and that person should be contacted BEFORE third parties are approached for contributions. And the WISH LIST should probably be posted in a forum.
DISPLAY. We are very fortunate to have in the Trail Crew a member named Ron Quivitas who, among other things was the Lead Driver for the West Coast Toyota Trail Team. Ron was involved in the wildly successful build of a Toyota Tundra last year. Ron told us at the club meeting that he started with a stock truck and a well-written proposal on how he envisioned the truck being built [the interplay of all the different vendors components and accessories] and when and where he would display the vehicle when it was finished. Based on his written proposal for a coordinated build with substantial public exposure, he secured an amazing amount of parts and accessories.
So where does this lead. I think that we need to put together a list of a. potential places where the raffle vehicle COULD be displayed, b. a way of getting the vehicle from place to place
1.either by finding a few extremely dedicated volunteers or
2. Someone that can coordinate a larger group of volunteers c. A back up plan in case the person or persons involved cannot meet their obligations; d. prepare a list of ACTUAL display locations once we can ensure that we can actually get the vehicle there; e. use THAT list to market to vendors what their public exposure will be
RAFFLE. This management role could conceivably be rolled into our current MSVP?s duties, but I would never make the mistake of assuming that it should be so as a general proposition, or that it would be fair to ask Art to take this on without ACTUALLY ASKING Art if he WOULD take it on. I cannot envision all the work it would take to coordinate the raffle, from printing of paper tickets, developing a way to distribute them, exploring methods of online promotion and sales, and collecting the money!
Again, Ige?s experience in spearheading the raffle vehicle project in Colorado will prove invaluable here. Ige even volunteered to contact the Cal Assn of 4WD clubs to get insights on California-based raffles, which is of some concern to the BOD.
THE BUILD. It would probably help a lot if you knew a bit more about the vehicle involved. The previous owner drove this truck into the body shop for body work and paint approximately three years ago. A substantial amount of the body was stripped, sanded and primered. The primer will now need to be sanded before painting. And a substantial amount of interior and trim pieces are currently missing and will need to be replaced. I will try and put together a list of things that are needed between now and Thursday night.
The Los Angeles County Trail Crew has stepped forwards as an interim advisory council to help make some basic decisions on the build. I felt it was necessary to put the project forwards with some baseline decisions already made, as there are so, so many ways to build a truck that if it were left wide open, we may never reach a consensus to start the build. Being a 77, the truck comes with a running 2F, 4 speed and disc brakes. We decided it would be best to respray the truck in the original white color that was on it, to lift the truck with a mild SOA [even though I am an SUA guy, I?ll be the first to admit that an SOA rig will show well and sell more tickets] on 35? tires.
The way I envision it, we could have different clubs/groups out here on the west coast involved in the refurbishment of the powertrain and body, with different work parties set up to do:
010-Engine Tune up [need cap, rotor, points, plugs, wires, PCV valve] possibly Jim C re-curved distributor
020-Valve adjustment; install painted air cleaner and polished valve cover, air filter, valve cover gasket [TBD] 030-Oil & filter change, check motor mounts 040-Coolant and hose replacement [TBD] Front and rear heaters, hoses, ducts, connectors 050-rebuilt carburetor [supplied by Mark?s Off Road] 054-stock exhaust manifold and exhaust pipe [TBD] 056-stock gas tank [I think I have the cover somewhere!] 060-need some of the smog equipment, including air pump and hoses [TBD] 070-clutch parts [if transmission is removed for service] [TBD] 080-transmission resealed 090-transfer case resealed 100-rear end axle seals and pinion seals. WE NEED TIRES! The truck has some pretty shiny 15x10 chrome spokes, which will probably be fine. I also have access to some 15x10 gloss black rock crawler rims if you choose to go that route.
110-front axle knuckle service, possibly on a different [cut and turned] axle housing 120-steering box resealed, center arm and tie rod ends replaced. Maybe a nicer steering wheel. Should we consider getting involved with a power steering conversion if someone offers to do one. [TBD] 130-new bushings, shackles and shocks on existing or replacement springs. Trac bar for the spring over.
140-replace all hydraulic hoses with stainless braided lines and flush system, possibly replace calipers and rotors. Replace brake master cylinder if we do a rear disc conversion.
150-body. This is where it gets tough to get a complete list up front, but I will note the following
150-headlight buckets, bezel, bezel screws [ I can provide brand new sealed beam headlights] Stock front bumper is there, but a H.D. like CCOT sells would look much better IMO 151-hood rest shims, hood hooks, windshield hooks and windshield rest bumpers, hood hinge pads and screws 152-windshield frame [the one that?s on it is so, so] windshield glass, windshield rubber [I can provide this] windshield wiper motor and linkage, plastic defroster. Upper and lower dash pads Radio cutout insert or stereo.
153-the truck has no top or doors. I do not see this as a problem, as I envision the truck having a MetalTech roll cage, which would be more prominently displayed without top and doors. Perhaps Metaltech half-doors would also be appropriate, and an SOR bikini top.
154-I have both front seats, but they will need to be reupholstered and need some of the brackets, as well as headrests. No jump seats, and I don?t know if those would conflict with the Metaltech cage. SEAT BELTS!
156-carpet kit, stock running boards or sliders, transmission tunnel gasket
157-tailgate panel or functioning tailgate. Might want to leave this unmolested [with the holes for the amby doors] in case the owner wants to install a hardtop.
158-tire carrier [I have it, but don?t have the hook to latch it to, or the rubber stop that goes on the tub] May not be necessary if we can get something like a MAF 4+ tire carrier donated
159-emblems. All missing.
160-Headlights [covered] Front and rear turn signals missing, as well as rear side markers.
163-Instrument cluster-doesn?t look original to the truck. I would recommend a replacement be located.
200-Where do you want to go? I?m picturing HD front and rear bumpers, roll cage and half doors, sliders and maybe some lights. Winch? ARBs? Consoles?
Ige made an excellent point last night about using the work parties as an opportunity to get individuals from the online community involved as well as local chapters. As the work parties are scheduled, people that are not currently in TLCA may get curious enough to come down and get involved. Heck we could end up getting some new members just thru well-advertised work parties!
The Trail Crew has also expressed an interest in providing oversight of the build, putting together standards for how each component be serviced, and checking to the extent feasible that those standards have been met. This IMO is an amazing offer in and of itself, and I believe should entitle the Trail Crew to the special privilege of having their club decal affixed to the rocker panel of the painted rig, as well as some prominent mention any public listing of contributors.
For the PARTS manager, I had the following thoughts in terms of vendor participation [note to readers: PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS LIST GO PUBLIC!][edit: list deleted from second draft; will submit directly to parts manager]
Getting all of this out of my head and on to paper has taken almost 4 hours. It?s all yours now!
Thanks for reading.
Sincerely,
Mark Algazy, owner
Mark?s Off Road Enterprises
TLCA #1086
Wow! A meeting I will make! The night of the 10th I'm even home! Amazing!
Reading that tells me that I need to drop Mark a line....
Dan
Reading that tells me that I need to drop Mark a line....
Dan
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Sure - bring whatever beverages you wish to drink and a dish to share - We'll have a taco bar, so bring pretty much anything but tacos 
We'll also have a grill warmed up and ready to go if anyone wants to use that. Kids are always welcome too.
We'll also have a grill warmed up and ready to go if anyone wants to use that. Kids are always welcome too.
good, i was going to remind everyone that the meeting is tonight, Friday night.
Williams' with wife and kids will be there and i will be bringing our new cruiser addition.
Williams' with wife and kids will be there and i will be bringing our new cruiser addition.
Ahlens: 3 (4 if Danise feels better - she went to the Chiropractor today and is really sore)
No can do, holding down the fort at work. Perhaps another day, when the stars & moon are in alignment, and the meeting is in the East Mtns...
