Is this normal for the handbrake?

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  1. Bardiya

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    When I stop on a slight hill, apply the handbrake and release the footbrake. The car will move slightly and will rattle before it fully stops.
    Is this normal?
     
  2. 2001LC

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    A slight move is normal, rattle is not. My guess is you're in "P" at the time, and that's just transmission stop hitting "rattling".

    Try this:
    With foot on brake, slip into "N" as you pull up on E-brake tauntly, let off foot brake, vehicle will roll few inches to a stop, slip into "P". This method save on the transmission locking mechanism, from getting even slopper.
     
  3. Spike555

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    If the parking brake is properly adjusted it should not move at all.
     
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    Wrong, it will always roll just a little bit. Even with brand new drums and shoes, adjusted perfect.

    I thought the same thing Spike, 14 years ago with my first LC. Took to Toyota Dealer and meet with master mechanics on roll, said normal. I tried adjusting out setting shoes by the book, still moved. Tried adjust tight, still moved.
     
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    Ok. That's new to me. Every vehicle I have ever driven and set the parking brake the vehicle is not moved, when properly adjusted that is.
    So this seems not normal to me, but whatever.
     
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    I thought the same, until my first LC. Now I've test driven and adjusted more the I can recall. They all roll.
     
  7. Julian Stead

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    Normal for a E Brake that uses shoes in a drum to roll back or settle, not normal if the E brake use pads on a disc. A lot of the movement when holding on a hill is the suspension, it feels worse in a LC as it has a lot of suspension movement to shift.

    Ps. Not normal for the rattle.
     
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    See, I've driven/owned tons of vehicles that have shoes in drums for parking brakes, and never a mm of movement when properly adjusted.
     
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    Foot brake actuates rear pads/rotors, e-brake actuates rear shoes/drums. When switching from foot- to e-brake the e-brake shoes are not yet loaded with holding force, they've just been moved into position. If you're on a hill the tolerance stack up between all the unloaded e-brake parts and the truck needs to be taken up. Hence, movement.
     
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    ^^^hit the nail on the head. It is the self servo effect of shoes, they dig in but will have slight rotation to achieve this. It is a better design for a E Brake in my opinion as it is more forgiving to the force being pulled up on the handle as it amplifies this.
     
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    ^^^^^^ Exactly right.
     
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    On flat ground, mine doesn't move either. But on a hill, it'll move a little before it stops.
     
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    I've never experienced that with a properly adjusted parking brake.
     
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    Ya, you mentioned that earlier.
     
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