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Discussion in 'Chit-Chat' started by crushers, Jun 28, 2005.
That is different, I changed it to english to see if it gave a description we could all read, didn't work.
I'll take this one in Belgium
only one user/driver, no accident, no scratches, no "dents" (right term?), perfect condition, low taxes (for germany only, its a "camper" -> interior), 100 per cent diff-lockers on front and rear axles, part time 4WD
have a nice day
Ahhhhhhhh quit teasin
GADS, look at those prices. You're KILLIN me Wayne.
Bugger. Those wouldnt last ten minutes here in the States.
That just aint right.
There's a few rigs there that I'd be willing to work some overtime for, that's for sure. Anybody priced out shipping from Europe lately? I see there's a 45 with a 75 bed listed. Weren't we talking about this a little while ago? I think it looks good from the side but I'd sure like to see some more, and larger pics.
last time I checked which was ~3 years ago was $800-1000usd. I didn't look all that hard though.
I think whoever of the importers works this out first, has a goldmine going, until the other's catch up, since people will not have to overcome their fear of the RHD. of course depending on the condition...
but there is barely a BJ42 that goes under 10k on ebay in the US, and some are in miserable shape...
Lowenbrau - low mileage, low price, 1984. A person might buy and import, but the hassle of importing and registering a couple of vehicles might be too much trouble.
okay, take another look, the prices are in euros so just about double the price shown and add $1500 for shipping plus getting the trucks to the dock AND the km on some of the rigs is outlandish for the price...
now this is just my take on the idea.
add to that at least a 20% mark up for profit and who is going to pay the price needed to justify tieing up the cash for a few months at a time...
The Euro is 20% more powerful than the dollar.
So a truck costing 10,000 Euros would cost 12,000 US.
WayneO that aint double Mr.. Unless you're talking Canadian dollars... Oops.
I can see only for the mint ones. Most of those have way to high of KM's
also there Would be market for refrubished Troopies with pop tops.
I think there are sill many who rather have a LHD even if its a lessor unit than a mint JDM.
I would love to have a Troopie with a thrid door. HHHmmmm camperized troopie.
I'm just a buyer (actually not even that at the moment). My money would be tied up in the rig forever and no one would need to make 20 points on it. The rigs I alway look at in Europe are not available as nice, low miles rigs in Japan. They are "bushtaxis" and are often expedition ready in a way that even the most 'camperized' of the JDM rigs are not. I wouldn't suggest that anybody buy a LJ71 from Germany for 5000 euros when he could buy a cherry JDM one landed in Canada for very little more. I would, however, recommend that someone who wants a troopy should buy a German one. It will likley be better equiped, better maintained, and more gently used than any other region I can think of. I would also suggest that a German BJ75 with 250,000km would outlast a JDM LJ71 with 100,000km but it's going to take a while to prove that point.
at todays market
1 euro = 1.48 CND
so yes you are right, add 50% and the other fees.
let's take this one as an example:
10,900 euro + 50% = $16,350 +$400 to get it to the dock + $1500 shipping + docking fees and customs and GST and other $3000 + $1100 from toronto to Calgary by train + $300 OOP =
$22.650 CND landed in Calgary not counting any repairs needed to pass the OOP or enviro cleaning at the dock if it comes in dirty or penalties if there is ANY contra band inside the vehicle (i.e. depends o the custom agent but even a spare set of tires are contraband with a $2000 charge)
now i have not do this yet so i could be off a bit but not much.
so safely say $24,000 for this truck +20% for a profit margin and you are sitting at $28,800 for a 18 year old truck with 265,000 km on it.
so do you think that the first importer will have people knocking down his door to bet their hands on this unit with a 3B in it?
I'm sure there is a buyer out there that would, Wayne.
Look at the price they want for the tubby explorer, insane!
$22,000 might be in line for a rig that has 70,000 km less than this
I agree that the margins don't seem to be there for a Western Canadian importer. When the time comes for me to buy my troopy I'm going to fly to europe, drive it around for a few weeks, and then drop it at the dock myself. I'll save the $400 to get it to the dock and have a nice trip to boot. Maybe I'll ship it to Halifax and drive it home via Baja. Oh, I'm dreaming, somebody wake my up.
i hope you do just that, i could see you putzing around europe and then heading to Mexico.
if that truck was a HZJ or even the PZJ then it would be more in line but for that kind of money i can pick up a darn fine HZJ77 and convert it...
I guess I was not doing the calculations.
no, at that price it won't be a goldmine...
I think I will stick with my current process....let someone else get it to the states title it and all that, and then buy it from them