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James nothing is written and signed yet but we need to move on this issue ASAP. we are getting HUGE response from across Canada to fight this so once we get more joining in the fight we have a very good chance of winning it...

i will be updating my site with info on Monday so keep checking it.

cheers and welcome to the fight
 
Hi Wanye,

This was in regards to the US, One of our dealers in California heard mutterings of a change in there rules, but as yet no formal confirmation. As moondog clearly stated there is no changes on any of the import forms/ Customs, EPA or DOT websites.

Regarding Canada am well aware of your efforts and those of others, and am 110% behind you, let me know if you require any further help.

Cheers

James
 
sorry my bad...
yes, there has been a bit of difficulty in registering 25 year old diesels in Kalifornia lately... depends on the dweeb behind the counter...
 
fyi this thread is now in the American section of the importing FAQ.
 
I'm the same Greg,

I have my guys keeping an eye out for a 1982-1984 BJ46 to import as soon as it turns over to it's 25th b-day. I may need to move faster if the laws change. I have a 44 now and love the truck. Too bad they never brought them here!

Kraig
 
We have a really nice 44 landing in Canada next week, original km's factory a/c!! it's possiably for sale if your interested could put you in touch with the guy and see if you can work a deal.

James
 
I got my fingers crossed for the Canadian JDM crowd, but it's looking like an uphill fight. Lots of lead-footed punks bringing in rice rockets, and there's a LOT of auto industry money behind the efforts to curb the importation.

Wayne, have you guys considered enlisting independent import repair shop owners? I would think that owners of shop that specialize or at least commonly work on JDM imports should be behind this 100%, whereas regular dealerships would probably oppose it (broad generalization).

As for the US-imports, 25 years based on build-date is still the norm, so 2/82 or 3/82 by the time you get your rig in. One bit of advice: DON'T play with the dates and get a rig imported before it's time frame, the storage costs at a Customs warehouse (the vehicle cannot clear until all paperwork is final) are exhorbitant! Better to wait in Oz than sending it in and then having to pay fees here.
 
Exiled said:
Wayne, have you guys considered enlisting independent import repair shop owners? I would think that owners of shop that specialize or at least commonly work on JDM imports should be behind this 100%, whereas regular dealerships would probably oppose it (broad generalization).
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what i found is interesting is the parts suppliers and shops that specialize in these units have a very complacient attitude... "oh well we will get our money repairing the untis that are here". there really isn't a specialty shop that ONLY works on imports, they will have imports right next to NA units at the same time...

it would be great to have the different sub-trades join the fight. there is an organization being formed already for JUST dealers but to have the tow working together would give the fight more power (if complacency was an issue) i would rather have 10 people willing to actually do something than 100 that do nothing but that being said having an organization of Import Owners Association will show numbers that support the fight.
 
I don't know anything about importing diesels into California but all gasoline(petrol) engined vehicles newer than 1975 have to pass very tough emissions regulations and usually just can't be done. You could get it in to California and start the rego process and drive it on a temporary rego but you wouldn't be able to pass any inpections so after a few months you would reach a dead-end and have to move it to Arizona, Oregon or Nevada


From what I understand their(AZ & OR) smog laws are getting tougher too
 
I believe diesel are exempt from emissions testing in california. Not entirely sure though how they deal with that on imported diesels, mine's registered in the midwest - no emissions testing for any vehicles.
 
As far as the california import goes. If the DMV agent handling your paperwork really knows the rules I believe that if the vehicle if newer than 1968 it has to have epa smog standards to register in ca despite diesels being smog exempt from testing (I looked into this extensivly a while ago) i can e-mail anyone the documentation that talks about this if anyone wants it. Most diesels coming in have never had their engines tested by the epa and therefore to legeally bring them into ca they need to have an expensive diesel emissions test done which is 3-4 thousand. Most DMV people do not know about this rule and therefore most diesels get through and get registered. The two diferences are bringing the diesel into the US and registering in CA.
 
OK...I've been looking at these pages and the gov sites for a while...and am still somewhat lost.

My main question:

Brining into the USA from Japan, any car, any year before 25 years ago? Right?
or
ONLY cars that have been imported previously and have a US counterpart?
 
from Japan must be 25 years old to the month (but there are exceptions in certain states depending on the number of vin digits)
 
...

OK, but can I bring in a 25 year old BJ74, even though they were never produced in the US?
 
sure, but you will be waiting till 2009 since the first BJ74 rolled off the line in late 84...
 
You can bring in *anything* that is more than 25 years old. With two forms (customs and EPA) I was in and out of the Customs and Border Patrol office in Long Beach in under 20 minutes.

-- Tom
 
Well 2009 isn't that far off when you live in the manufacturing country and own land capable of storing.

Customs form= What your are bringing in/VIN number/ETC
EPA=?
 
URLs for forms

Sniperx said:
Well 2009 isn't that far off when you live in the manufacturing country and own land capable of storing.

Customs form= What your are bringing in/VIN number/ETC
EPA=?
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EPA form includes the same basic info, including the check box to say that the vehicle is more than 21 years old, and hence exempt from EPA regulations.

Customs form (HS-7): http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/hs799short.pdf
EPA form (3520-1): http://www.epa.gov/otaq/imports/forms/3520-1.pdf

-- Tom
 
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