I'll never buy BFG muds again

[danthman114]

A few weeks ago my nephew's came over from bishop CA to get some desert views in. A change of pace from the high Sierras. I took them out and one of the roads got alittle washed out during our last monsoon rain and exposed some pretty jagged but round rocks. Those rocks that just love to roll under your tires. Well after the trip I start noticing the knobs were pretty chewed up and missing rubber, splits on the base of others and on the sidewall. The road wasn't bad at all and was completely passable with ease. I locked in the rear to keep the rolling rocks at a minimum. I WILL NEVER GET BFG MUDS AGAIN... At least they're a poor choice for a 6k lb LC. It's got 285s on it and wanted to keep that size. Is there a better mt tire out there for sharper rocks and that can handle the weight of my vehicle. Anyone have Kenda kevlars or Mickey Thompson mtz?
Thoughts?

 

[nukegoat]

Pics of the tires? I had km2s for like 4 years

 

[mudgudgeon]

How old are the tires?

 

[danthman114]

These tires are alittle over a year old.

 

[Fj81]

Whats the date on the tires? Are they old?

 

[-Spike-]

There are a lot of rigs in my area running Cooper Discoverer STT Pro's, seem to be the best bang for the buck for primarily offroad performance, and still behave on the highways. All tires 'chunk' on Arizona's rocks, these seem to hold up well. Wranglers and T/A's are avoided. Nittos do pretty well, but are even pricier.

Old tires lose their elasticity, so if they are more than 4 years old what you're seeing is to be expected. You say 1 year, so not good at all. There is a date code on every tire, usually the last 4 digits in a long string of letters and numbers following a big 'DOT' stamp. The code is the week and year of manufacture. Sometimes 'new' tires aren't really new.

 

[danthman114]

My nephew recommended the Mickey Thompson mtz. He does alot of rocks and say they hold up pretty well but his Toyota is light compared to my 6040lbs tank. Bfg, from what I understand, changed their compound to a softer one and can't handle what I was feeding them. However, they didn't blow out so that's something...

 

[danthman114]

There are a lot of rigs in my area running Cooper Discoverer STT Pro's, seem to be the best bang for the buck for primarily offroad performance, and still behave on the highways. All tires 'chunk' on Arizona's rocks, these seem to hold up well. Wranglers and T/A's are avoided. Nittos do pretty well, but are even pricier.

Old tires lose their elasticity, so if they are more than 4 years old what you're seeing is to be expected. You say 1 year, so not good at all. There is a date code on every tire, usually the last 4 digits in a long string of letters and numbers following a big 'DOT' stamp. The code is the week and year of manufacture. Sometimes 'new' tires aren't really new.

I won't get discoverers anymore either. Had sidewalls and tread separate... Bubbles all over...

 

[ewillis]

Why no Toyo AT-2? Perform quite well in those conditions...

 

[-Spike-]

I won't get discoverers anymore either. Had sidewalls and tread separate... Bubbles all over...

Wow, sorry to hear that. Collectively we've run through a lot of sets of them without any issues that I'm aware of. And we beat the s*** out of them. Nitto may be your best option then. Or Toyo's, same company, I haven't followed them to know the differences, but both brands are generally respected.

 

[LandCruisinMy93]

Dangit @danthman114 those were on my list of tires to consider when my toyo's need replaced. Cooper makes the stt pro in a 40 now. Wasn't there a thread a year or 2 back when someone lost the bulk of a KM2 going down the freeway?

 

[mudgudgeon]

Sometimes 'new' tires aren't really new.

I'm wondering the same.

I had a good run out of MTZs, but the wear fairly quickly with high way use.

 

[clx16]

+1 danthman114 said....I went to get new tires for my LX450 at Discount Tire and the guy talked me out of BFGs telling me they now have a different makeup in order to increase stopping on pavement in rain. He said they don't last as long now. I don't know how honest he was but I ended up getting Wrangler Duratracs, and so far pretty happy with them. Only had them for 2 months though. YMMV

 

[danthman114]

Dangit @danthman114 those were on my list of tires to consider when my toyo's need replaced. Cooper makes the stt pro in a 40 now. Wasn't there a thread a year or 2 back when someone lost the bulk of a KM2 going down the freeway?

They must have been pretty bad. I've had BFG MUDS on my Jeep for years and never any problems and been through stuff that was 10 times worse than that road. Then again it probably weighs less than half of what my 80 does. That's why I got them for it. Now it appears I'll have some spare tires.

 

[danthman114]

Time to get on the classifieds and look for some rims for my spares... Lol

 

[nukegoat]

Can you get us the 4 digit code on the tires?

 

[nukegoat]

+1 danthman114 said....I went to get new tires for my LX450 at Discount Tire and the guy talked me out of BFGs telling me they now have a different makeup in order to increase stopping on pavement in rain. He said they don't last as long now. I don't know how honest he was but I ended up getting Wrangler Duratracs, and so far pretty happy with them. Only had them for 2 months though. YMMV

I'm sure the salesman at discount tire has secret knowledge about the manufacturing floor's chemical composition of their rubber.

 

[richardlillard1]

Tire age and air pressure play a big role.

I usually go down to around 12, maybe 14 and the tires don’t chunk much. I’ve tried lower, but one tire slipped the bead. Oops.

I ran a three year old spare for a few weeks recently and it developed some pretty good texture. With about 40% tread left it started losing some pieces after a couple outings. Also oops.

 

[chap79]

My rig tips the scale close to 7k when loaded up and wheeling. I’ve been running the Cooper ST Maxx without any issues. I also ran the old version of the Yokohama A/T-S through lots of desert shale without issue. Airing down helps a lot.

 

[dcguillory]

those look super old