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I'm a mechanical engineer by trade (used to hold a Florida Professional Engineer (PE) license) and used to work on the space shuttle. Happy to lend my support in any way.

I take issue with this part of their reply:

"your filter was subjected to a physical and dimensional evaluation, and was found to have the correct conformation to its engineering design”

That reads to me like they used some calipers to measure it's external dimensions and can confirm it's within spec. Who cares? The failure mode in this case is not related to exterior dimensional tolerances or some sort of a case or seam rupture. The most likely cause is the anti-drain-back valve - either via a manufacturing process fault during assembly resulting in mis-positioning, or becoming misaligned during operation. Neither of those are due to your oil selection and are not the owner's fault.

That "misapplication" is bogus as well, as you have rightly pointed out.

Since you surrendered the filter to them for analysis, I'd ask for the full report of what "analysis" was conducted, specifically:
  • Ask for a written copy of their failure analysis procedure (is it NAPA's or WIX's). Do they have one (they should)? Was this filter tested using the procedure? Was the complete procedure followed, or just the external dimensional analysis? If they skipped steps in the procedure, why? Who authorized it?
  • Was the filter flow tested? If not, why not? If so, did the flow test "conform to the engineering design?"
  • Ask them to explain the non-standard anti drain back valve position as seen from the picture you provided vs a known good filter
  • Was the filter disassembled as part of the analysis? If so, where are the pictures? If no pics were taken, why not?
  • Does their procedure call for a root cause or failure mode analysis (they should have this in place as a closed loop mechanism for their design process)
  • Ask to speak to the engineer or technician who conducted the analysis, and Mike HUffstetler whose name is on the rejection letter (I'd be happy to join that conference call with you, BTW)

It's not clear to me to what extent NAPA is positioned to test something like this that they sell under license, and which is made by another company (WIX in this case IIRC). Back in my days at Home Depot, the house brand product (Rigid, Ryobi, etc.) manufacturers were ultimately liable for product failures/recalls, etc. Home Depot handled the initial customer service concerns, but if the product was defective and resulted in legal damages, the manufacturer was on the hook. Sounds to me like NAPA is trying to close the door on this issue with their dimensional conformance response. At the end of the day, a full engineering analysis needs to be conducted to determine the root cause of the failure. May have to swim upstream to WIX to get that done, but it's NAPA's responsibility to do so.

Keep pushing, and LMK how I can help. Lazy engineering and shoddy manufacturing chap my ass, but not as much as people who run from their obligation to make things right when their products fail.

Other poor man's methods I've used to get traction include writing to the BBB in NAPA's HQ city, which will require a response from NAPA. Also many states have a consumer protection division of some sort. My favorite is sending a physical letter to the CEO's office outlining your concerns and lack of redress, along with another series of letters that you intend to send off to the Chamber of Commerce, BBB, Editor of the local newspaper and the consumer protection / scam reporter at your local TV affiliate if progress is not forthcoming.

Mentioning how many MUD members who could view this thread might help as well. :D
 
I have nothing credible to really add, but after reading thru (most) all of the thread, I am curious, did the OP get any resolution?
 
And that will cost you, possibly netting only the satisfaction of a judgement that doesn't cover what you spent. They have deeper pockets.

Small claims court can help. I live a good ~5 hour drive from Los Angeles (where the "registered agent") for a company I'm suing has their shop set up. It's a multi-national organization that basically screwed me out of $200. Court filing fees are like $15, and that agent has to drive their ass 350 miles to my county, and back, to show up in court.

I'm hoping for a court date mid January/February, when the only way to get around is a capable 4x4 with chained up snow tires. Let's see those scrubs pull that off.
 
Since my last oil change I was having some odd noises from what I believe is my timing chain on really cold days. I am about to swap to a Toyota Filter (picking it up tomorrow). I have the NAPA GOLD 1515 filter installed on my cruiser.

Once I have the YZZD3 filter in place, I will wait for a cold day to test it out. My truck isn't a DD, so I've only got a few hundred miles on the napa filter so far.
 
Funny story: If I did ever change my own oil I’d never buy a Wix filter. Purely because my father worked for Dana Corp (I don’t think Dana even owns them any longer and not sure if my father works for them or not anymore). He was the reason I bought my 80 instead of the Chevy he wanted me to buy.

Dodged another bullet!
 
Just found this today. We didn’t notice any pressure issues while working on the truck until today on a test drive to check brakes. Noticed low oil pressure with stock gauge which can be normal but this was pretty low. Customer had oil changed 2k miles ago. Put the manual gauge and with the Napa gold 1348 on this 80 series all we could get was 15psi at idle and 18psi at 2k. Put a new wix 51348 and readings were to say it lightly normal.

Will be calling wix tomorrow.


 
Just found this today. We didn’t notice any pressure issues while working on the truck until today on a test drive to check brakes. Noticed low oil pressure with stock gauge which can be normal but this was pretty low. Customer had oil changed 2k miles ago. Put the manual gauge and with the Napa gold 1348 on this 80 series all we could get was 15psi at idle and 18psi at 2k. Put a new wix 51348 and readings were to say it lightly normal.

Will be calling wix tomorrow.





I like the second one!

Looks like there are definite QC issues w/some WIX products out there.
 
No more Wix for me!
 
I have using Wix filters for decades. NOT ANYMORE. Going to OEM filters. All of you may want to go to your State Commissioner of Consumer Affairs. If they don't want to help, contact your State Senator or House member get their staff involved with the Commissioner's office. Send them a letter, see if they will be an advocate for you. If you get them involved I bet things will change quickly. Best of Luck to all of you. Long Live the 80.
 
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The problem is Toyota would have the same exact response if you took a defective filter back to them. There's no way they'd graciously accept responsibility to rebuild your 20+ year old 1FZ to the tune of $5-7k. The only thing you're getting by using OEM filters is the assumption (piece of mind?) that their quality control is to a higher standard than aftermarket filter producers. As @beno has alluded to several times on here lately, Toyota is on a bullet train to GM-ville with bean-counters running the show, not passionate auto enthusiasts. I'd bet before long we'll see this exact same thread but with the Thai-made OEM spec filter. Well, maybe better put...it wouldn't surprise me.
 

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