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[FJTex]

I'm looking into lift kits and i'm needing some up to the minute advice. it still seems that most lifts out there are spaces and this frankly will not do for me. i'm looking for a solid 5-6 inch suspension lift for my truck. i've seen that procomp has a 5.5" lift that looks ideal for me, however their site says that i cannot accomodate 16" rims on their lift. if anyone whose got some experience with this product can explain why that is i'd greatly appreciate it, additionally if anyone knows where i can turn to find this level of lift i'd be thrilled.

 

[FJTex]

100 views and no replys... perhaps can i do an OME 3" with 3" spacers in front and 2" in back? also how will that work with the Total Chaos UCA's?? any ideas folks, i'm willing ro replace brake lines and all that but i cant put together an expiditionary crawler without more ground clearance











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[DBS311]

If you want to go that high you will need to run one of the drop bracket lifts (Fabtech, Pro Comp, Rough Country). OME + 3" spacer = very bad CV angle.

Define what you want to do with the vehicle. I noticed you said expedition crawler. Generally those two terms don't work well on the same rig. If you want to build a true overland vehicle, you want to stay as close to stock as possible and run minimal lift (check out Camel Trophy vehicles.......not a lot of clearance). Obviously for crawling you'll want more clearance and larger tires. The perfect balance, IMO, would be the standard 3" lift (All Pro, OME, DR, etc.) and 33-34" tires.

If you want the altitude and big tires, get one of the 5"-6" kits. Don't run OME and spacers.

This Disco is a great overland vehicle, but not a rock crawler. Where exactly do you plan on taking your FJC?

 

[FirstToy]

i'm looking for a solid 5-6 inch suspension lift for my truck. i've seen that procomp has a 5.5" lift that looks ideal for me, however their site says that i cannot accomodate 16" rims on their lift.

Pro Comp's drop brackets are not a suspension lift. You are not gaining suspension travel. It is using brackets to 'drop' everything. Those brackets (or the stock parts hanging under them) still are at the same height as say, a 3" OME lift.
The only added clearance is from running 35" tires.

The reason 18" wheels are required with the ProComp lift is that the the tie rods have brackets to raise it (otherwise, like cv's, it would be bent at a 45+ degree angle). They need 18's to clear that.

If you really want to clear 35's, do some body lift + suspension lift + some trimming. You will get the same clearance at much less expense.

True suspension lift, there are long travel IFS kits that will yield more travel as well.

 

[FJTex]

as far as what i'd like to do with it... well i really want somthing that i can pretty much cover all bases with. i'll be setting it up as a support truck (onboard compressor/ welder etc) yet at the same time i dont wanna get all this equipment on and find that my 3" lift leaves me just over stock heigh when loaded, also i would like to be able to hit some moderate rock trails without bangin on the frame/skidplates. i know that a jack of all trades is a master of none but an expiditionary veh. kinda needs to be just that IMO.

i've also seen longer axle shafts, will this help solve the CV angle issues? Total Chaos has a UCA setup for llike 13"of travel in the front. so i know theres a way to get decent travel without ripping the axles out on the trail.

 

[FirstToy]

TC UCA's are different from the LT kit. UCA's are designed to work with the stock suspension.

The TC LT kit are longer UCA and LCA as well as longer CV's. It widens the track so the CV's are not at an extreme angle for the same lift.

Expedition truck is just as tall as needed for the trails you run. 3" is great.
If you are worried about really weighing down the rear... does OME have xtra heavy rear coils? You can always get custom coils as well...

 

[FJTex]

so if i go with OME heavy and say.. a 1 inch spacer in front (to level) will i be able to add the TC kit as well?

 

[FunJunkie]

did ya see this one?

http://www.roughcountry.com/toyota_fj-cruiser-6.html I think it looks kick ass, just make sure you get the upgraded setup if you can afford it. too pricey for me though.

 

[Bigun]

did ya see this one?

http://www.roughcountry.com/toyota_fj-cruiser-6.html I think it looks kick ass, just make sure you get the upgraded setup if you can afford it. too pricey for me though.

i stilll havent seen a price for this kit yet. altho similar kits are around 1500-2000.

 

[FJTex]

did ya see this one?

http://www.roughcountry.com/toyota_fj-cruiser-6.html I think it looks kick ass, just make sure you get the upgraded setup if you can afford it. too pricey for me though.

that'd be wonderful. its not skyscraper high so as to be impractical but would give me the ground clearance to tackle the more hardcore trails. the price will of course make a difference in what i can do but that'd be sweet

 

[FJTex]

i jsut contacted Rough Country on this lift... its not available yet... but they said the lift would probably be around 1,200 to 1,500 i cant swing that today but i'd definitly save for it... also they siad it didnt require a front diff drop. if they can deliver on price and preformance this would be so flippin sweet.

 

[FirstToy]

FJTex,
The Rough Country setup is the same theory as ProComp. They use a lower crossmember & spindles to "drop" the front suspension. This is something to consider. It is a different way of doing things than Total Chaos, which you mentined earlier.

TC is a 'long travel' kit designed for high speed desert. You see it on Tacoma's a lot. The advantage here is added height to run 35's w/o weird cv angles and since there is no 'drop' bracketry; true added ground clearance. However, the tradeoff is you have quite a bit of work to make it all work (wider fenders= see the Baja FJC that is running this kit)

Here is a good illustration of the added track and cv angles

 

[Zurn]

All the 6” lift kits out there use a drop bracket for the front end. This means the only clearance you are gaining is from the larger tires. So you can run an OEM lift with 33” tires or spend 3x the money and get the 6” lift and run 35” tires, but you are still only gaining 1” of clearance at the front cross member. $2500 to do the good 6” lift kit seems like a lot of money to spend just to get 1” of clearance at the front cross member. For that much I would be looking into a SAS or the long travel kit that some of the companies are working on. If I was you I would go with one of the 3” inch kits that are out there, maybe one of the adjustable coil-over setups if you are worried about sag in the front. Then add a 2” body lift, do a bit of cutting on the front body mounts and run 35” tires. You will have the same ground clearance at the cross member and you can add a good set of bud’s skids for $800 that will give you all the protection you need for some rock crawling. Of course this is all my own opinion and you can do what ever you want with your tuck…

 

[FJTex]

zurn i like your idea a lot, and infact this is what i'm beginning to think i may do. i would love to run the TC kit but it looks to me to be even more expensive... $900 for just the longer axles. the problem then is the softness of the setup... i assume the TC kit would have appreciable sag after an ARB bullbar and Winch and lights are added to the equasion, as its made for highspeed impacts. and i'd still have to get the rear lift as well.

 

[stusstang]

Look at skyjacker Im istalling it next week.