I have angered the Cruiser Gods

Dianna

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Hey guys. I pulled my '77 FJ40 out of storage a few weeks ago and had an issue with my starter that I would sometimes just get a "click." My Tacoma has done this for the last 2 years and the dealer cannot diagnose it because it doesn't happen when it's at the dealer. Anyway, I'm used to just turning my key a few times until the starter finally engages so that's what I have been doing and after a few tries, it has started right up. Fast forward to last weekend and I was on my way to a car show and I noticed my brake pedal getting lower and lower. I turned around to limp home and by the time I got here, I had ZERO brakes. Reservoir full and no leaks, so I assumed the master cylinder. I had just replaced my old one with a cheapie from Rock Auto until I had time to rebuild the OEM. While waiting for the rebuild parts, the truck decided to puke about a cup of gear oil onto the driveway, I didn't take the protective cover off, but it appears to be coming from the back of the transaxle. I received my parts today to rebuild my master, I got that completed and dropped one of the nuts. I could hear that it didn't hit the driveway, but after searching for nearly an hour, I can't find that effing think anywhere. I have spare metric hardware so I found another one to finish installing the master. I went to start her up to see if I had brakes, and it didn't want to start. Usually once it turns over it hits right away. Then I got the "click, click click" which then turned into NO click! I waited a couple minutes and made sure I was compressing the clutch peal all the way and I was. After a few more tried, it finally turned over and started and then died. It has never done that. I started it with the chock and it stays running, but it will not idle after I turn the chock off, it completely dies. I wondered if that nut ended up somewhere that it is affecting the carburetor linkage. And ugh! We don't have the best weather and I'm limited on days I can drive this thing and I'm spending way too many of those days with it sitting. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 

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check around the carb as you may have hit something when doing the brake master switcharoo
check all the battery connections, clean and tight, both ends
 

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Ignition switch. ?
Do the brake booster check with engine off, as outlined in the FSM
 

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Ignition switch. ?
Do the brake booster check with engine off, as outlined in the FSM
Would either of these cause my issue of stalling out? I have brakes now that I installed my rebuild master.
 

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Would either of these cause my issue of stalling out? I have brakes now that I installed my rebuild master.
Only if a vacuum line got jarred loose, the Ign. switch might be why you get the click, clicking- along with the wire connex being loose as 3puppies mentioned.
The brake booster could be failing and causing a vacuum leak. . .?
 
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Try a known good battery and check/clean the battery ground and especially the starter ground. The starter ground gets overlooked a lot.
 

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If it ran good b4 the master rebuild and it doesn't now, look around the area you were looking. From what you describe it could be a vacuum leak. Will it idle with the choke pulled? If it does, that would be an indication of a vacuum leak too.
 

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Thanks guys, I'm headed out in a bit and will update. If my booster is bad, would that cause the stalling issue? It will idle with the choke on, a very high idle.

I'll add a few other things: This is the same carb that has been on it the past 20 years and it was running great, with the exception of a bad exhaust manifold gasket, before I replaced the master cylinder. I have brakes now, so I'm hoping that was my only brake issue. The first thing I need to do is find the nut from the MC I dropped!

I appreciate all the help :)
 

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I just stopped to take a peek at the idle solenoid wiring and see that it is zip tied to the brake lines. This connection looks pretty sketchy, so I'm hoping that's my issue. I will update! (Desmog was done by a PO, so don't throw the shade my way, lol)

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I also failed to mention that the Cruiser Gods have given me a random coolant leak as well! LOL!!! Good thing my cruiser love is deep ;)
 

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This connection looks pretty sketchy
When you turn the ignition key to "Run" (not start) you should hear the cutoff solenoid click.
 
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It would seem you'll need to make a sacrifice of a young virgin to appease them... it may be much harder to do now since the last 40 series in North America was built in '84.
 

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Update #1:
Cleaned up that connection and put it back together with a waterproof connector and purrrrrrrr!!!!

My master cylinder rebuild was a success, my brakes, even without bleeding them yet, are better than they were with an aftermarket MC.

After digging around for another hour, the nut is still hiding somewhere :( I have a ton of extra hardware, but this drives me insane! I assume it must have made its way into the frame rail.

I have a battery cut-off and I just took it off and put it back on and my clickety click seems to be corrected. I still need to go over all the connections at the battery just to be sure.

I am going to fill up my gear oil and enjoy the day until I get the parts to fix that seal. Since the E-brake is so close, I wonder if using that when I had no brakes could have caused the seal to start leaking. Since we haven't discussed that, I'm going to post up a new thread for that instead of having it lost here.

I thought I had a recurring silver star subscription but apparently I did not, purchased that, am grateful for all of you, and thanking the cruiser gods, lol. I just hope they give me my nut back LOL!!!
 

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Update on lost nut, took the pressure washer out and blasted the crap out of anywhere I thought it might have been able to land and nothing. I officially give up!
 

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Update on lost nut, took the pressure washer out and blasted the crap out of anywhere I thought it might have been able to land and nothing. I officially give up!

It's in The Twilight Zone; not worth retrieving at this point. Why risk coming back with a pig face, or a monster living on top of your Land Cruiser that peeks in the windows during a rain storm?
 
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