HDC Moonshine Run

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Well, we didn't have a big group show up, but we had enough to have a good time.

Graham was there with his (little) girls in the Lexus - Mom stayed home to prep fpr Turkey Day. Abq Jim showed up in his 4Runner. Dave and Jennie in their Tacoma, and I was in the 80.

When we first pulled up and were airing down, the place was pretty deserted as you might expect, but we did have a nice almost-full moon. The wind was whipping the sand around pretty good in certain spots during our run, and the temps were quite a bit colder than they have been lately. But it's probably a good thing we weren't out there last night, or we would have had a rain/snow combination to deal with.

A side note - Ellen and I were driving home from Rio Rancho to the East Mountains last night around 9:00, and we came through one heck of a blizzard. It snowed all the way across town. We've got a couple inches of snow on the ground here this morning, and it's just started to lightly snow again. We need it - it's been too dry. Hopefully this weather helped cut down the forest fire in the Manzanos.

Back to the trip report - we had a great time. I think Dave and Jennie were impressed with what their stock Tacoma can handle. Graham led us up over the knife edge entry, and then we took off down some steep sand hills to the south. Eventually, we ended up near Snoopy Rock and the mini-Lion's Back obstacles. We parked the Tacoma for a few minutes, loaded up Dave & Jennie in the 80 and played around in the other three trucks for a bit. After we went up the first steep incline to get onto mini-Lion's Back, I took a wrong line and lifted a front tire way up. Felt a little tippy there for a second, but we made it through.

We got the Tacoma back on the road and followed through that steep off-camber section back to the wash on the north side. I'm used to coming down this section from the north, so we were going back up it and at night. It was a very different perspective. All the usual lines coming down didn't look familiar at all going the other direction. Nothing too bad, but I think it was good practice for Dave and the Tacoma.

We got back over to the place where there are two rocks to play on (one large and one small). Some of you will recall the large rock has claimed rear sway-bar mounts in the past (Broke Back Sway Bar Mountain, or some such thing). We mostly left them alone this evening, but Abq Jim decided he wanted to try driving over the little rock. After a couple of attempts, he made it up and over, but not without a large noise as he snapped his CV-joint. It was a bummer, but luckily he has locking hubs in the front, so he just unlocked them and did the rest of the run in 2WD. It sounds like has has figured out that all his other mods (35 inch tires, front locker, double transfer cases) have highlighted the weak link in his rig when he really pushes it - the CV joints/shafts in the IFS. But he's got it all figured out - he's building his Formula Toy on an '85 mini-truck chassis for the hard-core wheeling.

It was pretty uneventful from there. We wandered back to the north wash with a couple of side trips off into the rocks. We headed back up and over and aired up and that was the end of our adventure.

For my first night run, I would highly recommend it. Most of our communication was over the radios, and there wasn't a lot of standing around outside, since it was chilly. But it was very cool to drive around out there in the moonlight (no pun intended). Let's do it again sometime soon!

Evan
 
A side note - Ellen and I were driving home from Rio Rancho to the East Mountains last night around 9:00, and we came through one heck of a blizzard. It snowed all the way across town. We've got a couple inches of snow on the ground here this morning, and it's just started to lightly snow again. We need it - it's been too dry. Hopefully this weather helped cut down the forest fire in the Manzanos.
Evan

Evan,

Sounds like a fun run. I enjoyed reading it pool-side at by sisters in "Palm Springs." Concrete is a little cold so I think I'll go inside and get my flip-flops. :grinpimp:

da' Desert Rat
 
Thanks for the trip report Evan, sounds like a good time. I am sorry that I was not able to make it, I have guests in town and as much as I tried, "entertaining" them did not involve wheeling this weekend.
 
Nice report. Thanks Evan!
-Mike-
 
Good trip out. I planned on just doing the loop but we ended up in the rocks as well.:flipoff2:

G
 
I don't mean to be a techno-idiot, but sometimes I'm slow when it comes to "new" stuff. By new, I mean the Mud board (we've only been using this for what now - about two years?!?). I haven't figured out how to use that fancy "quote reply" feature. So bear with me. I need to sit down with someone for a few minutes and get some basic lessons.

So, having said that, I did want to respond to a few people regarding the trip report to the Puerco night run.

Jon - you better dress warm when you get back here from Palm Springs. Our Abq heat wave has turned the corner to winter weather overnight. After my last weather report of 2 inches on T-giving Day, we had another 3 inches of snow on Friday. I don't think we've been above freezing at our house since last Wednesday. But I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying your visit there!

Harry - sorry you couldn't make it. We had a good time, but it would not have been conducive to many good photos!

Beno - I agree with your SAS idea, and suggested the same to Jim. But he's building his Formula Toy and says that will be his hardcore wheeler. (Jim - correct me if I'm mis-quoting). But the problem I see with the Formula is that it will be an open vehicle. It seems like most times we are wheeling, I am happy to have some auxiliary heating or cooling in the pasenger cab. I'm sure Jim will figure something out.

Ellen and I will likely miss the meeting next weekend at Ali's. We have multiple holiday gatherings going on that evening. Maybe we can show up at the end - we'll see how the time looks.

Evan
 
Its pretty easy Evan. In the bottom right hand corner of my message there is a button that reads "quote." Press that and it will quote just my message, the one to the right of it is to quote a couple people, press that button in every post you want to respond to and the quotes will all be in the same post. Hope that helps a little.
 
I don't mean to be a techno-idiot,

... and when you get the message window with the quote in it, you can edit the message that you are quoting by deleting the parts that are not relevant to your reply.


( now I am wondering if "Edit" and "Quote" are only for 'Mud members that have contributed $20 for the silver-star? )

-Mike-
 
Why don't you make this a sticky until it happens?

The full moon of Nov 24th will also be at perigee, so the full moon should be relatively bright. December is the solstice so the moon will be a little higher, and also only a couple of days from perigee. Either way looks good...

By the way, this site is from the co-auther of Autocad. Lots of good stuff in it, including the Earth screen saver:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/pacalc.html

I highly recommend its perusal...


Steve,
Did you download and install Celestia?
I highly recommend its perusal.

Google Earth for space travelers.

http://www.shatters.net/celestia/

juane
 
I had a great time despite the CV breakage. It was my first night run.

Beno - I agree with your SAS idea, and suggested the same to Jim. But he's building his Formula Toy and says that will be his hardcore wheeler.

A SAS would seem to be the most logical route on the surface. Although, the following led to my decision to build an F-Toy:

1. To do a SAS on my 4Runner will run in the neighborhood of $10k (or more) to do it right. This includes rear suspension mods to match the front. This will not add $10k of value to my 4Runner.

2. I do not want to build/drive a monster truck.

3. I do not want to take significant body damage to my 4Runner, it is still my daily driver.

4. I have an urge to do more and more difficult trails.

5. I am tired of building the 4Runner.

Therefore,

1. If I put $15k (or more) into a spec. built F-Toy it holds close to that value. A few have sold on PBB for that amount recently.

2. A well build F-Toy will be equal to or lower than my current 3rd gen 4Runner (even on 37's).

3. There is not much body damage possible when you are driving a piece of .120 wall dom tubing.

4. I need to go up in tire size and strength to run more difficult trails.

5. A new building challenge.

So, with that said...I do not plan to SAS. I will daily drive the 4Runner and wheel the F-Toy.

But the problem I see with the Formula is that it will be an open vehicle. It seems like most times we are wheeling, I am happy to have some auxiliary heating or cooling in the pasenger cab. I'm sure Jim will figure something out.

As for weather, it will be different than having a nice cabin. I spent the weekend wheelin' in AZ in an open buggy, we even drove it to the trail 50 miles. It was different, my biggest complaint was dust on the dirt roads between trails, but braving the weather was certainly worth it for the trail performance. And remember, it's NM. It's nice 80% of the year. The other 20% I will drive the 4Runner (but take it a little easy, IFS is not up to the challenge).

I will keep you all posted as the build progresses.
 
Sounds good Jim. It's interesting to hear your analysis. Can't wait to see your F-Toy on the trails!
 
Its pretty easy Evan. In the bottom right hand corner of my message there is a button that reads "quote." Press that and it will quote just my message, the one to the right of it is to quote a couple people, press that button in every post you want to respond to and the quotes will all be in the same post. Hope that helps a little.

How'd I do Rory?

Thanks for the pointer. I just never noticed those little buttons.

And yes Mike - I still need to pony up for my Silver Star, but at least I can use the quote feature in the meantime.
 
How'd I do Rory?

Thanks for the pointer. I just never noticed those little buttons.

And yes Mike - I still need to pony up for my Silver Star, but at least I can use the quote feature in the meantime.



isn't there a joke about old dogs and new tricks....




:flipoff2:
 
Thanks for the pointer. I just never noticed those little buttons.

Any time I'm using a new computer application or something like Google or forum software, I poke around and point and click and punch and prod on everything.

Learned to test the boundaries & limits in high school using similar techniques. :grinpimp:

-Mike-
 
I poke around and point and click and punch and prod on everything.

Learned to test the boundaries & limits in high school using similar techniques. :grinpimp:
-Mike-

Mike - I bet the girls in your high school have some stories to tell!

isn't there a joke about old dogs and new tricks....
:flipoff2:

Don't worry Rory - you'll be there yourself before you know it!
 
isn't there a joke about old dogs and new tricks....

Don't know about that, but there is one about 80's, old dogs, and sissys. :grinpimp:
 
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