H55F for a 87 FJ60

[fjdemon]

Ok I've been looking through the threads for quite some time, but I can't find a definitive answer on this.

Here are the part numbers I have found listed however I believe this was a earlier year FJ60 doing the swap.



33030-60450 -H55F
33124-36010-Oil Pipe (nipple)
33530-60160-Lever (shifter)
33504-14050-Knob
31210-60070-84-Clutch Cover
31250-36342-Disc Assembly
90363-52001-77-Throwout Bearing
90363-15004-Pilot Bearing
90311-99001-Rear Main Seal
33548-60020 Nylon bushing that goes on the bottom of H55 shifter

My question is this, I heard that 85-87 FJ60s don't require a lot of this. I looked at cruiserparts.net and saw the kit they offer at this link Toyota Land Cruiser FJ60 FJ62 Parts For Sale

you'll see for $2595 I can get this

Brand new in the Toyota crate H55F transmission. FREE SHIPPING TO A COMMERCIAL ADDRESS!!!!! This also includes oiler pipe & bushing for keeping your current shifter. Direct bolt in 10/84 - 8/87.
$79 for installation seal & gasket kit.

On older vehicles; (what exactly does this mean on older vehicles???)
Transfer shifter set = $75 / Driveshaft set = $150) A new clutch kit = $199 any year. / Transfer Case $600

Upon calling them they said all I need is the $2595 transmission and it's a direct drop in, but from what I have read I need the oiler pipe and the shift lever at minimum.

Can anyone tell me what is needed to swap the 4 speed out to the 5 speed h55f?

Thanks, just trying to hash this all out so I can call the dealership because they said they'd sell me the h55f for $2300 plus tax, so I'm think that cruiserparts.net is the way to go since I have a commercial address and get free shipping.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

You will need:

H55F
H55F specific shifter
Plastic bushing that goes on the bottom of the shifter
Oiler cup for front half of transfer case

There are a number of threads in this section describing the swap.

 

[fjdemon]

You will need:

H55F
H55F specific shifter
Plastic bushing that goes on the bottom of the shifter
Oiler cup for front half of transfer case

There are a number of threads in this section describing the swap.

yeah I looked at all the threads, that's where I got all the parts numbers but there are no threads that specify years. I know the 85-87 have different stuff, bolt lengths, etc. According to cruiserparts the one they sell comes with "this also includes oiler pipe & bushing for keeping your current shifter. Direct bolt in 10/84 - 8/87."

So I just wanted to double check before I start dishing out the $$$

 

[Clutchee]

Not trying to rain on your parade but you may wanta search before ordering from Cruiserparts...... search & may let you know what I talking about.

Cruiserdan is a great supporter of Mud & the cruiser community!!!

My 02 cents.

 

[Spike Strip]

If you're going to replace the clutch/PP You can use everything you've listed.

But I'd get an aftermarket Aisin Clutch - All Toyota ones are now reman (hence the -84 on the part #) You'll also save a few bux, too (same clutch as the OEM, btw.) But get the toyota TO bearing and perhaps a new hub, if yours is worn.

If you have an '87 FJ60 you won't need any additional bolts - all your stock ones will work and are the correct length.

And you know about tapping and capping the bolt hole in the transfer case ?

 

[fjdemon]

Not trying to rain on your parade but you may wanta search before ordering from Cruiserparts...... search & may let you know what I talking about.

Cruiserdan is a great supporter of Mud & the cruiser community!!!

My 02 cents.

I'll check with him too and if he can give me a comparable price I'll go with him. I just saw this and I can get the shipping free, so that's a plus. Thanks

 

[fjdemon]

If you're going to replace the clutch/PP You can use everything you've listed.

But I'd get an aftermarket Aisin Clutch - All Toyota ones are now reman (hence the -84 on the part #) You'll also save a few bux, too (same clutch as the OEM, btw.) But get the toyota TO bearing and perhaps a new hub, if yours is worn.

If you have an '87 FJ60 you won't need any additional bolts - all your stock ones will work and are the correct length.

And you know about tapping and capping the bolt hole in the transfer case ?

I actually got a lot of this information from your posts when you did your swap. Thanks for posting those, they were a lot of help. Yes I saw the write up on tapping and caping the bolt hole for the T Case. Shouldn't be an issue. I just wanted to make sure I have everything before I kick this ordering off. I can always get stuff later as I need it, but I hate to do that and wait on something halfway into it. I figure this way, I am rebuilding my 2F so it will be new and fresh, now I'll have a 5 speed, brand new tranny. She should be good for another 20 years.

 

[Spike Strip]

Yup --

Good Luck.

Are you gonna rebuild the t'case while it's apart?

 

[Elbert]

I swapped a V-8 at the same time I went to a yota 5 speed. I used Dan @ American Totyota. Trans came with oiler, shifter, knob and bushing. I just told Dan what was was going to do.

I think 86 and 87 setups are identical?

 

[fjdemon]

Yup --

Good Luck.

Are you gonna rebuild the t'case while it's apart?

Yep, I'm sure the original has 250,000 miles on it with no rebuild

I swapped a V-8 at the same time I went to a yota 5 speed. I used Dan @ American Totyota. Trans came with oiler, shifter, knob and bushing. I just told Dan what was was going to do.

I think 86 and 87 setups are identical?

I'll have to look Dan up, anyone have a direct contact? I do believe the 86 and 87 are identical too.

 

[Elbert]

do a google for American Toyota. To be more specific Dan included the parts I mentioned as part of the deal... he obviously knows what is needed.

I'm not aware of any other parts required....now if you are keeping the stock I-6, then it might make sense to swap out some other parts while you are doing this.

 

[hank14]

Please keep us updated on what you find out- current prices shipping info. I had heard American Toyota wouldn't ship the 5-speed any more.

 

[fjdemon]

do a google for American Toyota. To be more specific Dan included the parts I mentioned as part of the deal... he obviously knows what is needed.

I'm not aware of any other parts required....now if you are keeping the stock I-6, then it might make sense to swap out some other parts while you are doing this.

I'm rebuilding my 2F so I'm going to redo the clutch, TO bearing, etc. while I have it out, as well as rebuild the T case.

Please keep us updated on what you find out- current prices shipping info. I had heard American Toyota wouldn't ship the 5-speed any more.

I'll let you know what I find out. If I can't ship it I might just get the one from cruiserparts

 

[Elbert]

Yes...in other thread.... I mentioned that American will not ship the transmission from their facility... the end user has to do this...which is not that hard to do. I used R&L truck line. Thats they way it was when I bought mine..things may have changed.

 

[fjdemon]

Yes...in other thread.... I mentioned that American will not ship the transmission from their facility... the end user has to do this...which is not that hard to do. I used R&L truck line. Thats they way it was when I bought mine..things may have changed.

Ok well, looks like I'm going to go with cruiserparts then, I just don't have the time to try and arrange shipping when it's free to a commercial address. I'm in Canada and the FJ is in Georgia, so that means do what's easiest, even if it costs a few more bucks. Thanks for the info. I'll see if anything has changed first but I'm sure it's still the same way.

 

[Outdoor Adventure]

I purchased my H55F from James at Cruiserparts.net ; I also had him install the unit. He knows these transmissions and their cantankerousness when new. Frequently, they nee to be "massaged" to free them up to work smoothly. A great upgrade! You can go with the shifter handle you have, as I did. However, if I had to do it again I would have purchased the H55F specific shifter as it is bent to not interfere with plug-in's in the lighter power socket.

 

[fjdemon]

I purchased my H55F from James at Cruiserparts.net ; I also had him install the unit. He knows these transmissions and their cantankerousness when new. Frequently, they nee to be "massaged" to free them up to work smoothly. A great upgrade! You can go with the shifter handle you have, as I did. However, if I had to do it again I would have purchased the H55F specific shifter as it is bent to not interfere with plug-in's in the lighter power socket.

Thank you for the info. It's good to hear from other customers before you make the plunge

 

[fjdemon]

Basically this is what I decided. Cruiserparts.net had the best deal $2595 for the brand new unit $79 for the installation kit, and $200 for a new clutch kit. H55F transmission shipped to a commercial address for free! I checked with coolcruisers.com and they wanted between $300-500 to ship to a commercial address, so I figured even thought they have a "kit" it's better to order what I need and save the shipping. The unit from cruiserparts also included the oiler pipe and a bushing to maintain your stock shifter. I can live with it being close to the dash, however if anyone knows where I can by a bent 5 speed shifter or has one please let me know before I kick this thing off. I'll get some pictures when it arrives, and I'll post up a final price when I get the confirmation email. Thanks

 

[GLTHFJ60]

Basically this is what I decided. Cruiserparts.net had the best deal $2595 for the brand new unit $79 for the installation kit, and $200 for a new clutch kit. H55F transmission shipped to a commercial address for free! I checked with coolcruisers.com and they wanted between $300-500 to ship to a commercial address, so I figured even thought they have a "kit" it's better to order what I need and save the shipping. The unit from cruiserparts also included the oiler pipe and a bushing to maintain your stock shifter. I can live with it being close to the dash, however if anyone knows where I can by a bent 5 speed shifter or has one please let me know before I kick this thing off. I'll get some pictures when it arrives, and I'll post up a final price when I get the confirmation email. Thanks

If you use the 4 speed shifter you won't be able to put anything longer than an inch into the cigarette lighter.

 

[Spike Strip]

If you use the 4 speed shifter you won't be able to put anything longer than an inch into the cigarette lighter.

Gawd, there are soooo many possible replies to that statement

But most of 'em would get me kicked to chat...