putting together a F/F rear and going reart disks also. wondering if the disk brake adapter brackets are the same or are they different then the standard brackets for the standard axles. anyone have experience with this? appreciate the input.
full floater rear disk brake adapters
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I wish I was some help for you but I have a ff with drums and was wondering the same thing.
I want to say portfj62 has rear discs on his rig. maybe he will chime in or post some pics.
clint
I want to say portfj62 has rear discs on his rig. maybe he will chime in or post some pics.
clint
FF and SF use the same backing plate, so I'm assuming the same bolt pattern for the backing plate where it mounts to the axle housing... I've looked at a bunch of disc conversion kits and I've never seen anything mentioned about diff applications for FF vs. SF ...
But that don't mean it ain't so...
Would be nice to get a difinitive answer, since I'm in the same boat.
Sorry, that isn't much help.
But that don't mean it ain't so...
Would be nice to get a difinitive answer, since I'm in the same boat.
Sorry, that isn't much help.
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no prob. i will figure it out and then p[ost up on how to do it.
TSM mfg says they are different. They have a bracket for the full floater and the semi-floater. Does not mean they wont work but I thini the distance to center on the rotor is different because of the spindle. The rear drums are different part numbers so I would assume (ass u me LOL) that is the difference. I have not personnally set the drums side by side to see if they are different.
I also have a FF and would love at some point to do this mod myself.
Will call TSM in the morning for us and find out.
I also have a FF and would love at some point to do this mod myself.
Will call TSM in the morning for us and find out.
Toyota Land Cruiser Semi Float Axle FJ-40-60-62 & 80 & Full Float 82 rear disc brake kit includes:
brackets, bolts, and new 11 9/16" vented rotors. Link for info on ABS
Part Number 2491 $269.95 pair
This is directly from there page, it appears that I was wrong it looks like it is the same kit. I will verify tomorrow.
Cam
brackets, bolts, and new 11 9/16" vented rotors. Link for info on ABS
Part Number 2491 $269.95 pair
This is directly from there page, it appears that I was wrong it looks like it is the same kit. I will verify tomorrow.
Cam
I have read that a few times. looks really well done for a budget disc conversion but...... no parking brake!
Clint
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good input guys! i will let you know when i am done with it.
The thread 2tall supplied is for a 40/45: already made that mistake & bought mini-truck knuckles & had them cut down & powdercoated for adapters only to find out they wouldn't fit the 60FF.
I'm in the middle of doing what you're contemplating & had TSM make me prototypes of brackets to use 60/62 calipers on the rear (already have their proto tcase parking brake). FFs are different than SFs. My big hangup was making dust shields out of the drum backing plates & 60 front dust shields.
If you want to keep rear park brakes your only readily-available option is the Eldorado single-piston, floating-frame caliper, which TSM sells new. But there have been endless complaints about that setup not self-adjusting, to the point where you don't have an effective park brake.
My TSM tcase disc park brake is easily 3-4 times more effective than stock: https://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/246398-tsm-split-tcase-disc-brake-prototype-2-a.html
Again, I am a shameless, unpaid shill for TSM: Cliff & Skip are the best, bar none.
I'm in the middle of doing what you're contemplating & had TSM make me prototypes of brackets to use 60/62 calipers on the rear (already have their proto tcase parking brake). FFs are different than SFs. My big hangup was making dust shields out of the drum backing plates & 60 front dust shields.
If you want to keep rear park brakes your only readily-available option is the Eldorado single-piston, floating-frame caliper, which TSM sells new. But there have been endless complaints about that setup not self-adjusting, to the point where you don't have an effective park brake.
My TSM tcase disc park brake is easily 3-4 times more effective than stock: https://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/246398-tsm-split-tcase-disc-brake-prototype-2-a.html
Again, I am a shameless, unpaid shill for TSM: Cliff & Skip are the best, bar none.
euclid
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My FF has eldorado calipers on it, installed by sixty before I bought the axle from him. I think he made the brackets. I can get some pics if that would be helpful.
ntsqd
technerd
Do the 80 rear discs not fit the 60 FF housing?
Just had a quick look at the FAQ and did not see any relavent listings.
Just had a quick look at the FAQ and did not see any relavent listings.
80 rear disks have monstrous rotor hats which double as drum brakes on the inside, which is the 80's emergency brake. I am pretty sure you could only use them with the 80 hubs, which supposedly have the same bearings as the 60. That said, I don't think you can just slap 80 rotors on a 60 hub, but I don't know for sure
Hey Steve did you ever mention to them the possibility of making 60 series caliper brackets for SF axles as well? As long as they're clocked right so they can be bled while in place (as opposed to the GM calipers; dunno why they didn't correct that), that'd be a perfect solution for sticking with Toyota parts if they set the caliper in the right position for mounting 60 series front rotors on the back (inboard side) of the axle shaft flanges. Include the spacers to allow use of the front lug studs, a set of instructions and bam, they'd have a great kit right there.
ntsqd
technerd
Lack of 15" wheel clearance potential rears up and smacks me!
Other than that I don't see a problem. The rotor hat style p-brakes have been the better overall design IME.
The 15" wheels would be a problem. As for the e-brakes, when we took the hub off there was a TON of crap stuffed into the drum and made them virtually ineffective. They're really cramped in there and if mud, sand or whatever gets in there I see no way for it to get out. Definitely a problem for a truck that goes off road all the time.
Then again I am rarely in the 80 section so I don't know if that's a typical problem or not. It seems every time I'm in there someone's always talking about cup holders.
I have the Toyota discs on the rear with the bracket made from the sacrificed front knuckles. I can lock up all four of my 39.5x18 boggers under my '40. Scary do do with a soft suspension and a heavy load....
Swapping '80 rear axles under the rig this year sometime and will configure the parking brakes with separate cables so I can use them for cutting brakes.
I have not looked closely yet, but at first glance it looks like steel rims instead of AL and shallow backspacing may allow 15 inch rims to fit the rear brakes with only a small amount of grinding... I need to remember to investigate this closer the next time I have an '80 on the lift.
Mark...
Swapping '80 rear axles under the rig this year sometime and will configure the parking brakes with separate cables so I can use them for cutting brakes.
I have not looked closely yet, but at first glance it looks like steel rims instead of AL and shallow backspacing may allow 15 inch rims to fit the rear brakes with only a small amount of grinding... I need to remember to investigate this closer the next time I have an '80 on the lift.
Mark...
Damn, I want brakes like that.
I never had anything against drum brakes. Have them adjusted properly and they work just fine. Disks are a lot easier though.
I never had anything against drum brakes. Have them adjusted properly and they work just fine. Disks are a lot easier though.
That looks like a nice set up but seems you are the only one using it at the moment.
How far along are you with the 60 rear disc set up?
Why not 4 runner calpiers front and rear instead of 60/62?
Clint
