Frustrated with work...

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Just need to vent a little.

I work for a construction company which my dad is also a VP for. I've worked here since I was 14 during summers and was full-time for a year for 2004. I started back for the summer two weeks ago exactly and have accomplished absolutely NOTHING since I started. I'm supposed to be in charge of the rough-ins and finishes in a clubhouse type area. Not a small task, but definately within my realm of capabilities.

The problem is that the owner can't make up his mind about what goes where and so on and so forth. Mind you the building is standing and dried in and we still don't have finalized plans for several aspects of the architectural layout(obviously he can't change the structurals too much since the building is standing already). So basically I've been sitting around for two weeks trying to makeup stuff to do. I'm not the kind of guy to just sit around and waste time, and it's frustrating the crap out of me.

Since I'm salary I can't just lay out for a couple days and just not get paid like an hourly employee. Nope, I have to sit here, look like I have a clue what to do, and waste 8-10 hours a day until we get plans that we can build off of. The other 3 superintendents on the job all have stuff to do because they're in the units(200-unit luxury apartment building), but they don't really need help with anything.

The other problem is I feel guilty spending all day on the internet or goofing off in the office when everyone else around the office is busy. I've talked to my boss and he keeps giving me menial(sp?) tasks like filing stuff, but I can't stand brainless work, just drives me nuts.

ARRGHHHH

rant off

Ary
 

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They wouldn't call it work if you liked it.

I have times like that too. A guy I met in a train station lunch line once told me "An intellegent person is never bored"

There's some truth to that, but there's really only so many times you can clean your office and pick up your work area before you just sit in your chair and stare at the wall.
 

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Is the company backcharging the owner for standby time? If not, the threat of that should light a fire under the owner's butt to get some decisions made. If they are, use the time to develop tools to help you do your job better. Tool in this regard is wide open. Could be a jig, better understanding of tools, reading up on management techniques. One of my favorites is the 48 Laws of Power. Also, what's next? Could you be familiarizing yourself with plans for your next project?

There's always something you could be doing to better your career.
 
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Welcome to my world.

I'll bill in 3-6 month incriments because jobs will never get done. It's odd in the graphics world because a client thinks "Well, we can always change things..." and they do, time and time again. They also want me to rush through things, complain that things take too long, and are often surprised when all of their changes/effort beat a design into the ground to the point where it doesn't look good at all.

I'm currently working on a POP that is on it's 4th or 5th redo over the course of about 4 years. :rolleyes: One thing that you have to give your guy credit for is the fact that he's wanting to do it right the first time - he'll come away happy with the results and that will reflect well on you and your company.

clients are an evil necessity. :D
 
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The company is backcharging the owner. He's apparently very loaded, 'cause it doesn't seem to bother him much.

This is a temporary gig for me, my time's up at the end of July, then I'm going on a trip and then back to school. I've been familiarizing myself with the plans(those that we have) for this job for 2 weeks. What little work I could be getting done in my area is inhibited by the fact that the area is being used as a storage area by the trades for the rest of the building. The little bit of work I could accomplish doesn't warrant the moving of 200 bathtubs and 150 window assemblies, so I sit and twiddle my thumbs.

I just hate being idle. The fact that my dad is my boss's boss makes it worse because then I'm the "boss's kid who doesn't do anything," an image I've strived to cast off since I first walked on a jobsite at 14.

Ary
 

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Arya Ebrahimi said:
The company is backcharging the owner. He's apparently very loaded, 'cause it doesn't seem to bother him much.

This is a temporary gig for me, my time's up at the end of July, then I'm going on a trip and then back to school. I've been familiarizing myself with the plans(those that we have) for this job for 2 weeks. What little work I could be getting done in my area is inhibited by the fact that the area is being used as a storage area by the trades for the rest of the building. The little bit of work I could accomplish doesn't warrant the moving of 200 bathtubs and 150 window assemblies, so I sit and twiddle my thumbs.

I just hate being idle. The fact that my dad is my boss's boss makes it worse because then I'm the "boss's kid who doesn't do anything," an image I've strived to cast off since I first walked on a jobsite at 14.

Ary
Wow, wish I had your problems when I was your age. :flipoff2:

If they don't have any stuff for you to do, then just work on your plans for world domination. :D

Every job I've ever had is like that--not always enough challenging work to do, always get some scut jobs for a stretch. I know that doesn't help.
 

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Review safety equipment (conditions/availability of guards/personal protective equipment) and procedures (emergency contact info.) etc. God knows noone does it when they are "busy"

call some reps of tools/equipemtn you use get htem to do some on site demos (safety training) etc. get them to provide "Train the trainer" info. training and materials.....Do this for fall protection (lifts, ladders scaffolds, harnesses)

When you nad your folks are busy is when an accident/injury will slow things down on your nickel.

Good luck.
 

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Hmm, well if you're getting paid to do nothing on a project that the customer is getting charged for then don't sweat it. Just think of it like it's your rich uncle giving you free money to do nothing. If I were you I'd take the plans you have and figure out what you'd do based on those...then change them in your mind and figure out what changes that would make to the structure...just so you have a feel for the changes he'll throw at you. Actually who am I kidding, if I were you I'd surf mud and porn all day, eat cheetos by the handful and go to a family reunion or two.. :D
 
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Hey Arya I feel your pain.

I'm a realitively intelligent guy with a good job/education, but at my current position I'm just for show and considered a "must have" for my company to do business. They're paying me to have a Professional Engineer on staff for "future" support of new products we're launching in North America.

Currently the company is advertising the fact that they have Engineering know-how, but I have yet to be an asset to the company. Just check out my post count :) Hopefully, in the "future" things will pick up, but for now I , "Just think of it like it's your rich uncle giving you free money to do nothing" -- mabrodis.

All I do all day is try to seem busy and volunteer for minial tasks, as they come up. I've discussed this with my boss and he assures me that things will pick up. I took the job under the notion that these new products were ready to explode on the market. People here feel bad for me and so did I, but I've only been here for a year and have tried everything I can to be ambitious. Now I just feel good about the fact that I have zero stress, work 7.5 hours a day, and spend a lot of time at home with me beautiful wife. My last job I traveled 75% of the time and would be gone for long periods of time. It's nice to be home.

As long as I don't continue this for more than 2 years, I figure I can spin this into a good career move, as I have stepped into the business field from purely technical. Although, I don't consider this to be work. It's a free ride.

On a positive note, I try to learn as much as I can about this industry and the different products. I'm volunteering to do sales, marketing, and production stuff which I would normally would never had a chance to experience. If I were you I would learn about some of the different trades in the constrution industry. One day you'll want to build something of your own. The contractors will be pleasently surprised if you show interest in learning what they do.

Thanks for letting me vent. :cheers:
 
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I guess I'm not the only one w/ these types of issues.

What really sucks is that the collective bosses around here expect all of the salary employees to be here by 6:45 and they don't typically let us go home till 4:30 or 5. We get an hour for lunch, but that's still 9+ hours a day. Being that I'm the youngest guy on site, I get harassed if I want to leave before the older guys. So I end up sitting around an extra 2 hours just shootin the s*** and being bored. Then when I leave I get to sit in traffic for an hour and a half as opposed to if I got to leave at 3:30 and would only sit in traffic for 45 minutes. All around it just sucks. I can't wait till I actually have work to do... I never thought I would say something like that! :eek: :D

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PabloCruise said:
Arya, ask your dad what work you could be doing to make it clear you are not just working there because you are his son...

I might be bored and frustrated, but I don't have a death wish! :flipoff2: :D If I did that my dad would likely hand me all the responsibilities of 2 people and tell me to buck up because I'm young. My dad defines "overachiever" ;p
 

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Arya Ebrahimi said:
I might be bored and frustrated, but I don't have a death wish! :flipoff2: :D If I did that my dad would likely hand me all the responsibilities of 2 people and tell me to buck up because I'm young. My dad defines "overachiever" ;p
That is kinda what I was gettin' at Sparky! Put up or shut up!
 
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Arya said:
Being that I'm the youngest guy on site, I get harassed if I want to leave before the older guys. So I end up sitting around an extra 2 hours just shootin the s*** and being bored
Welcome to the world of office politics. It looks better to the boss to come in late and stay late, or just late enough to be the last guy there, than to come in early and leave early. Anbody that leaves early, even if they were the first one in the office, is seen as a slacker. It's not right, but that's the way it is.
 

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Sparky! Now that was uncalled for.

Doesn't sound like there is much you can do. About the only thing they can change is the interior layout (assuming the units are trussed). All of the load bearing walls are already in place.

No need to start your check off list until all is finalized. Maybe your inventory control guy can use some help.
 

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Starting a project before all details are spelled out???

NEVER!

:D

It happens all the time.
Sounds like you've got some down-time...how about learning something new?

:idea: Get yourself one of those foreign language programs, load it on your PC and relish in the knowledge that you're looking busy...and learning something new. Just a thought :)
 
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aamiggia said:
Welcome to the world of office politics. It looks better to the boss to come in late and stay late, or just late enough to be the last guy there, than to come in early and leave early. Anbody that leaves early, even if they were the first one in the office, is seen as a slacker. It's not right, but that's the way it is.
Ain't that the truth!!!!! I learned that year 1 out of college. Still sucks though since I am a morning person.
 
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