Fisrt Birf job done 140k done ..... kinda... question?

Discussion in '80-Series Tech' started by lx450landcruiser, Jul 31, 2005.

  1. lx450landcruiser

    lx450landcruiser Moderator

    Messages:
    2,781
    Likes Received:
    10
    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2003
    Location:
    Uganda
    Ok this was the first Birf job i have ever done, first axle i have ever torn into non the less. Im a one bannana guy and this was all new to me so yah. now heres where the flamming begins. i have only finished one side I.E. the driver side and it took me about 10 hours. yes yes i know 10 hours are u nuts?. but i cleaned everything very well took my time, had to get some cleaner and stuff and 2 other guys were doing theres at the same time so if something happened every one had to stop and look. The truck was leaking oil and greese togeter so it was in need. everything looke perfect though and i mean everything. Now heres the question. All thre of us broke our birfs apart to clean and re grease. the question is when you slide it back together how did you guys get the snap ring back in? im sure theres a tool out there and what not be we resorted to 3 guys with screw drivers and pressure to get it to pop back in. I know some of you do this by yourself so what you do?

    pics
    PICT0010.jpg PICT0011.jpg PICT0025.jpg
     
  2. lx450landcruiser

    lx450landcruiser Moderator

    Messages:
    2,781
    Likes Received:
    10
    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2003
    Location:
    Uganda
  3. Boston Mangler

    Boston Mangler

    Messages:
    3,589
    Likes Received:
    5
    Joined:
    May 21, 2004
    Location:
    San Diego
    Looks Great Man! Nice Work!

    How about some pics of that in dash CB and custom switch panel?

    Thanks
     
  4. lx450landcruiser

    lx450landcruiser Moderator

    Messages:
    2,781
    Likes Received:
    10
    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2003
    Location:
    Uganda
  5. landtank

    landtank SILVER Star

    Messages:
    19,374
    Likes Received:
    1,715
    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2003
    Location:
    Groveland MA
    The screw driver method is pretty much what you have to do. I have a vise, so I clamp the bell so that the weight of the axle is coming straight down and then start to work the c-clip in.
     
  6. Capt. Jim

    Capt. Jim

    Messages:
    2,214
    Likes Received:
    2,795
    Joined:
    May 1, 2005
    Location:
    West Palm Beach, Florida
    There are pliers (C-clip pliers) in diferent assortments/sizes for this. Makes taking them off easier, too. On or off in a couple of seconds. Snap-On has them but you might be able to get them at NAPA or Sears.
     
  7. Capt. Jim

    Capt. Jim

    Messages:
    2,214
    Likes Received:
    2,795
    Joined:
    May 1, 2005
    Location:
    West Palm Beach, Florida
    After re-reading your post, I now think you mean the C-clip that goes on the very end of the inner axle. I have used a simple hose clamp to compress it into the groove and then gentltyknocked the axle into the Birf. The clamp will slide, sort of like a ring compressor on a piston.
     
  8. medtro

    medtro

    Messages:
    6,975
    Likes Received:
    1,479
    Joined:
    May 31, 2003
    I used a wise and screw driver. Make sure the birf is in vertical position, slight pressure (push down in my case) on the axle. With the help of screw driver, the ring should go in in seconds.
     
  9. flintknapper

    flintknapper

    Messages:
    5,323
    Likes Received:
    2,028
    Joined:
    May 22, 2004
    Location:
    Deep East Texas
    Here's one way to do it....

    I drilled a 1-3/4" hole in my bench top (expecting to use it again) instead of clamping the birf. in a vise. This is a handy way to the hold birf. vertical when packing with grease and resetting the axle shaft.

    Just slide the birf. into the hole and then take the shaft (with a new spring clip installed) in one hand and using a small screw driver in the other hand...you can tilt the shaft to one side, this will cause about one third of the clip to go into the splined hole.

    Then, while pressing down...slowly bring the axle shaft vertical while working the clip in with the screwdriver. Both of mine popped right in using this method.

    Hole in bench top is the "hot tip".
     
  10. LandCruiserPhil

    LandCruiserPhil Peter Pan Syndrome Supporting Vendor

    Messages:
    22,741
    Media:
    55
    Albums:
    3
    Likes Received:
    14,204
    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2004
    Location:
    Scottsdale Arizona

    Same system here....works great.

    Makes assembly of the birf inners easer also.
     
  11. azaussie

    azaussie

    Messages:
    459
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2005

    Jim, We thought about this idea but did not have a hose clamp handy.
     
  12. azaussie

    azaussie

    Messages:
    459
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2005
    Great pics Mike. Thanks again for the use of your place.
     
  13. lx450landcruiser

    lx450landcruiser Moderator

    Messages:
    2,781
    Likes Received:
    10
    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2003
    Location:
    Uganda
    no prob im doing the other side now and its goign way faster. let me know why you and john do the othe side i may come give ya hand if ya need it.

    mike
     
  14. Shipwreck

    Shipwreck SILVER Star

    Messages:
    444
    Media:
    7
    Albums:
    1
    Likes Received:
    25
    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2002
    Location:
    The Saratoga slums, CA
    Yep. I use this method too. Trying to work that circlip on with tiny screwdrivers requires the vice and three pairs of hands. Aargggh! Cardinal Fang's compressor works so much better:
    http://www.wejacks.com/clipcompressor/birfieldclip.htm
    [​IMG]
     
  15. Rookie2

    Rookie2

    Messages:
    3,037
    Likes Received:
    88
    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2003
    Location:
    Knoxville
    In that picture, is everything set up the way you'd have it before inserting into the birf.? I see the circlip below the tuna can sleeve and hose clamp, but based on the explaination, it sounds like that is supposed to be compressed around the circlip that is placed in the groove. ... me confused.

    Thanks for any clarification.
    Rookie2
     
  16. Capt. Jim

    Capt. Jim

    Messages:
    2,214
    Likes Received:
    2,795
    Joined:
    May 1, 2005
    Location:
    West Palm Beach, Florida
    There are 2 grooves/clips in the splined end. The one that needs compressing is under the hose clamp. The one showing is a c-clip that does not need to be compressed, as it keeps the axle from going too far into the birf.

    The circlip that is compessed in the pic is about .25" from the end of the axle shaft.

    Hope this helps,

    Jim
     
  17. Capt. Jim

    Capt. Jim

    Messages:
    2,214
    Likes Received:
    2,795
    Joined:
    May 1, 2005
    Location:
    West Palm Beach, Florida
    Upon closer examination of the photo, the c-clip is indeed not in the groove. However, this is not the clip that needs compressing. Sorry for any confusion.
     
  18. Rookie2

    Rookie2

    Messages:
    3,037
    Likes Received:
    88
    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2003
    Location:
    Knoxville
    Yes, that clears it up quite a bit. Thanks.

    Rookie2
     
  19. fjgdk

    fjgdk

    Messages:
    374
    Media:
    4
    Albums:
    1
    Likes Received:
    115
    Joined:
    May 8, 2011
    I am in the middle of my first job now too, finding the same problems and difficulty getting that ring on the end of the inner axle in.

    I'm thinking a set of pliers like these may be a good idea, haven't tried it yet:

    Spark Plug Wire Pliers Long Jaws | Baum | B103-0037

    Have to find a set that has the correct or near-correct diameter.

    Has anyone used this type of tool before for getting the birf clip to compress ?
     
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.