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Engine Rebuild

Discussion in '80-Series Tech' started by Jon916996748, Feb 1, 2004.

  1. Jon916996748

    Jon916996748

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    Hey, the 80 is approachin 200k and it is rackin up the various failures in the engine. The head gasket is leaking as well as the rear main. I am lookin to do a full engine rebuild replace all the seals etc. and was wondering what that would run me.
     
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    That depends on if you want a new short block from C-dan or go with a rebuild kit (does toyota have one?)
    200K is not alot of miles. You could fix the leaks and wait another 100k.
     
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    [quote author=landtoy80 link=board=2;threadid=10862;start=msg97557#msg97557 date=1075646322]

    200K is not alot of miles. You could fix the leaks and wait another 100k.
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    You got to love a vehicle that you can say this about. :D
     
  5. Jon916996748

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    Well my gas miliage is in the gutter and it's not due to a heavyfoot or lots of goodies cuz its stock. I have a sneaky suspesion that it is due to the various leaks. So knowing this let me pose this question. How much would it be to get the seals all replace and the hoses, that need to be, replace? Also just general cleaning like the injectors and cleaning the block. Thanks.
     
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    I get 12 to 13 mpg.
    Clean the block, inside or out?
     
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    At 200k with the head off for a new gasket a valve job is a no brainer. I expect a ring job is due also. A compression check will tell all. I don't think it would make much sense to invest in a new headgasket and not do a rebuild.

    Rich
     
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    WAG off the top of my head - $2-4K. Once your in, there's just so much you might as well do, it gets out of control fast. You have to bore the block, so you get new pistons. You have the pistons off, so you re-size and balance the rods. Might as well polish and balance the crank at that point. You can't take the head off without rebuilding it. New cams? Gotta have a new timing chain, and gears, and tensioner. Can't put it together without all new hoses, belts, filters, blah, blah, blah.
     
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    If you do the work, just add up the parts :). I had a machine shop clean, bore, and assemble the short block plus touch up the head. I pulled the motor, assembled from the short block, did the valve shims, and installed the motor. IIRC it cost me ~$2500 including a new aftermarket radiator, fuel pump, and injector cleaning.

    If I did it over again, I would just have the machine shop clean and bore the block and maybe do a valve job (if needed).
     
  10. Jon916996748

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    Hrmm. Ya so I better just invest in a whole rebuild. Just wondering how much are parts? I know it would be worth while to get em from Dan or someone with a decent discount, but how much is it from the dealership?
     
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    Unless you are doing the work, it might be cheaper to get a short block.
    Unless you have motor damage and you have lots of $$$, just fix the leaks your self.
    If you are going to pay someone to fix the leaks, a rebuild/smallblock might be cheaper.
     
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    [quote author=Jon916996748 link=board=2;threadid=10862;start=msg98063#msg98063 date=1075759132]
    Hrmm. Ya so I better just invest in a whole rebuild. Just wondering how much are parts? I know it would be worth while to get em from Dan or someone with a decent discount, but how much is it from the dealership?
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    Parts are about $1200 assuming camshafts, crankshaft, and piston rods are in good shape. Check dealer prices at www.sor.com, and order from Dan.
     
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    A short block is about $2900. Get a valve job, t-chian, rebuild your P/S pump.
    Do this and add a TRD supercharger and ....
    your broke :D
     
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    holy crap -- just drop a new 32V in there --

    :)

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  15. FJ809496TLC

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    Cost is between $2.8k-$3k for a long block installed at Thunderbolt, if you don't want to do it yourself. Add $250 for 5 year/ 50k mile warranty. :)
     
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    <Cost is between $2.8k-$3k for a long block installed at Thunderbolt, if you don't want to do it yourself. Add $250 for 5 year/ 50k mile warranty.>

    What is Thunderbolt? Rebuild or used?
     
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    [quote author=landtoy80 link=board=2;threadid=10862;start=msg98659#msg98659 date=1075845046]
    <Cost is between $2.8k-$3k for a long block installed at Thunderbolt, if you don't want to do it yourself. Add $250 for 5 year/ 50k mile warranty.>

    What is Thunderbolt? Rebuild or used?
    [/quote] It is one of the engine rebuilding company here in Houston. The price is for a rebuilt engine. You can have yours rebuild or they can install another one.
     
  18. robbie

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    THat is a price for a Rebuilt 1Fz? If so that is real cheap. How is the quality of the Rebuild? Have you any experence with this company? Other companies that rebuild engines like Jasper would not let the 1FZ go for any less than 4500 (whole sale cost). Cost alone on parts and Machineing would be close to 3500 dollars here in Denver. I do think it is worth having the Crank, rods, pistons, pulley, drive plate balanced (around 150 here in Denver), When I got mine back there was metal removed to get a real good balance. The effect is nice, real smooth. later Robbie
     
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    Price is for a rebuilt 1FZ. I have never dealt with them before. A friend of mine bought his motor for his van and said he was satisfied. I just called this company as a reference 'cause I was looking at another cruiser with 245k miles on it and trying to factor in the price of a rebuilt motor when I make my offer to buy it. Price of rebuilt motor varies. Some shop will just replace parts that are bad and reuse the ones that are still within tolerances, but some will not (remanufactured). IMO, If I could afford it, I will buy a new complete engine and enjoy it for another 300K + miles till something else breaks down. :-\
     
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