does eggshell interior wall paint justify an upcharge --

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  1. erics_bruisers

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    -- over flat paint on a new-build?

    I am trying to figure out if these builder-folk are trying to screw over the newbie --

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    thanks!

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    The paint is a little more expensive but the big difference is that your ceilings will now be flat and the walls will be eggshell, I hope. The painters will have to stay sober long enough to mask or at least use a shield.
     
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    lol.. upcharge for eggshell ;)
     
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    Just wondering, but are these guys doing your interior design?


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    -- isn't that eric on the far right?









    -- the only additional charge should be however much extra the eggshell would cost over flat

    -- the application of the paint is the same
     
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    Only if they spray eggshell everywhere, like they would the flat.

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    bahaha -- i do the interior design myself --

    *silence*

    surprised?

    :D

    we are doing the walls eggshell, and the ceilings flat --

    -- the builder said on a recent 2200 sq.ft house, the upcharge was $1000 --

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    Check prices of the two yourself. I used ceiling white (flat) on my ceilings and eggshell on all the walls. The eggshell does clean easier than flat if that's part of your unasked questions.

    I painted (over time) all 3600 sq ft myself, so I don't know what a professional painter might charge. Purchased all the paint at Home Despot, but would probably use Vista Paint in the future.
     
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    good point.
     
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    -- surprised? no...but how could it be complicated in your world? what's to design?


    -- stickley over here...miele over there...done.


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    Then yes, they have to spray, mask and then spray again vs just one time though. Sometimes a contractor might eat if he has enough bid into it sometimes they won't.
     
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    $1000 upcharge. :eek: That's bull s***!

    I spent $800ish IIRC on paint only for the complete interior of a 3600 sqft house. That's mostly eggshell for the walls and a couple of gallons for the ceilings. I also used enamel in the bathrooms, kitchen and laundry room. Semigloss on all the doors and trim.

    As had been said Eric, no add'l labor cost for the eggshell. It's still water based clean up. No way that little paint costs that much more. Your wanker is being pulled big time and the builder just doesn't want to do it.

     
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    Nope. :flipoff2:

    I don't know the first thing about paint, but a grand seems steep. Whenever you make changes, it costs. Regardless if it is justified or not.
     
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    Wow, some people's reading skills need a brush-up.

    If the eggshell paint was less expensive than the flat, the cost of the job would still be more. Hello, people, labor costs money. New construction, flat paint on everything, only masking windows, the job is cake. Add a second texture, it's just like adding a second color. Two-tone spray jobs get labor intensive fast. I don't have any idea if $1000 is fair, that would depend on the total job cost, size, etc.

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    -- sometimes a steep fee is a contractor's way of saying, "no, I'd rather not do that..."
     
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    i am awaiting their upcharge cost --

    -- and doug, you were dead-on about the bed --

    :D

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    miele makes beds?



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    it's a harvey ellis -- got it at a scratch and dent --

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    The higher gloss the more they will probably charge. I would bet that the charge is for having to do a better job on the drywall if it's the same sub contractor. Did you allow (or pay extra for) texture on the walls? Shinnier walls will show more imperfections. They should be doing more than just spraying the walls anyway. They better plan on a cut and rolled final coat after trim is installed and painted/finished if natural wood. The standard is a primer coat over the finshed drywall often refered to as preprimer which is usually made up from all the latex left over from other jobs, which includes interior and exterior paints. Then a coat of the final color or a primer colormatched with the final color which will also be sprayed and backrolled. Then trim is installed. Trim is sprayed if painted or stained and laquered/polyclear or whatever finish is used. Then a final coat or two depending on type of paint and color is applied to the walls about a week before carpet. It doesn't make sense to spray the final coat. It's too messy and the time and cost of masking don't pan out unless they plan to paint it all exacly the same color as well? That's what they did originally in my home BTW, trim and all got the same color. I can also count every piece of drywall in the place, but most people just don't know or care. I'm super anal.

    I painted high end homes for 4 years for a large, 100 employee, painting contractor which is where my experience comes from.
    So yes $1000 seem high if they had planned on completing the work how it should be done. IF they are just spraying it all the same color and sheen, then it would add a lot of extra work.
     
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