Diesel conversion

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FL cruiser said:
The diesel fuel will dislodge whatever particles and deposits are inside the tank. I changed out a few plugged filters after the conversion. I finally pulled the tank out , cleaned and flushed it, but it was a waste of time. Still plugged filters. After a few months, I finally quit clogging filters and everything is fine.



I suggest driving a vehicle with an engine like you want first. Even if it means going to a foreign land to do it. It may not have the performance you desire.
I have an HJ60 with a 2H in Costa Rica. It is my most favorite vehicle. But I wouldn't bring it to the US, because it's too slow for my driving conditions here.
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Funny you say that I should go to a foreign country and drive a cruiser with a diesel engine in it. I was in the United Kingdom for two weeks,and I have an uncle who is into landrovers,and landcruisers alone,and I got to bump around in one for the time I was there. I was impressed with the right hand side steering,diesel engine performance,and mileage. When I came back to the states I immediately began my search. So yes I am not too keen on speed just a good working diesel engine for my rig. Thanks all for all this information. It sounds like it may become an easy transition. I am concerned about the wiring throttle stuff and glow plug controls,etc.
 
Jaybikman said:
Funny you say that I should go to a foreign country and drive a cruiser with a diesel engine in it. I was in the United Kingdom for two weeks,and I have an uncle who is into landrovers,and landcruisers alone,and I got to bump around in one for the time I was there. I was impressed with the right hand side steering,diesel engine performance,and mileage. When I came back to the states I immediately began my search. So yes I am not too keen on speed just a good working diesel engine for my rig. Thanks all for all this information. It sounds like it may become an easy transition. I am concerned about the wiring throttle stuff and glow plug controls,etc.
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Ive heard of places that custom make throttle cables. When I did my conversion I was lucky enough to find that the 3F cable was only 10mm too long for the 1HZ,but it worked.
I dont think I am getting the full of throttle off the pump and have the proper one I got off a wreck sitting there waiting .

However it would have been simple for someone with the right tools to make one.
In your case a cable from a canadian LHD HJ60 should fit right in.


For your glow plugs there are simple relays available or you can use the old ignition wire that went to the coil and use it to glow the plugs.
I dont have a timer,i just count to 10 quickly on a cold morning and hit the starter.

I think you may need the HJ60 radiator to get the hoses on the correct side.
From memory the 2,3F radiator is a opposite of the 2H.

The temp guage and oil pressure should be a straight plug in with some wiring extension.
I would suggset you keep it all 12v;)
 
roscoFJ73 said:
Ive heard of places that custom make throttle cables. When I did my conversion I was lucky enough to find that the 3F cable was only 10mm too long for the 1HZ,but it worked.
I dont think I am getting the full of throttle off the pump and have the proper one I got off a wreck sitting there waiting .

However it would have been simple for someone with the right tools to make one.
In your case a cable from a canadian LHD HJ60 should fit right in.


For your glow plugs there are simple relays available or you can use the old ignition wire that went to the coil and use it to glow the plugs.
I dont have a timer,i just count to 10 quickly on a cold morning and hit the starter.

I think you may need the HJ60 radiator to get the hoses on the correct side.
From memory the 2,3F radiator is a opposite of the 2H.

The temp guage and oil pressure should be a straight plug in with some wiring extension.
I would suggset you keep it all 12v;)
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It sounds like a pretty simple operation to do this. However I still need to see if having a engine from a foreign country in the states,(Arizona). Allowed to be in a chasis designated for U.S. specs. I am told that Arizona has a non-tollerable emissions standards similar to california. I am also told that the diesel engine has to be in a vehicle that has been sent to the U.S. I know a diesel powered landcruiser is impossible to have been sold in the U.S. in times when they were made. I don't want to be stuck with something and then have to reverse the process of having to put the 2F engine back in. There is a Toyota specific shop here in Tucson that repairs,and maintains vehicles that I have gone to for my rig. I will ask them about it. I have also sent a letter of my intent to a emissions referee that deals with these kinds of questions. I hope to get some results. Good or bad I hope to keep my fingers crossed. I don't want to go Chevy here,I would like to keep my toyota authentic.
 
Jaybikman said:
It sounds like a pretty simple operation to do this. However I still need to see if having a engine from a foreign country in the states,(Arizona). Allowed to be in a chasis designated for U.S. specs. I am told that Arizona has a non-tollerable emissions standards similar to california. I am also told that the diesel engine has to be in a vehicle that has been sent to the U.S. I know a diesel powered landcruiser is impossible to have been sold in the U.S. in times when they were made. I don't want to be stuck with something and then have to reverse the process of having to put the 2F engine back in. There is a Toyota specific shop here in Tucson that repairs,and maintains vehicles that I have gone to for my rig. I will ask them about it. I have also sent a letter of my intent to a emissions referee that deals with these kinds of questions. I hope to get some results. Good or bad I hope to keep my fingers crossed. I don't want to go Chevy here,I would like to keep my toyota authentic.
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This is good common sense and its the way I would do it.
However some have registered diesels using loopholes,exceptions to the rules or other means in states that have tight laws.
Talking to someone who has done it will also be useful.
Letters from officialdom dont always tell the full story,often its only the opinion of the official that responded;)
Good luck with it.
 
Tapage said:
you remember well !
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I am in the process of replacing a 2F using a 12H-T. Yes, the upper radiator hose is reversed. Ie: The 2F is on the left hand side and the 12H-T is on the right. However, looking at the cast aluminum nozzle covering the thermostat, it is a trangular plate with 3 bolts. I think it can be rotated 120 degress to match the old radiator.

- Eric
 
panoramic said:
I am in the process of replacing a 2F using a 12H-T. Yes, the upper radiator hose is reversed. Ie: The 2F is on the left hand side and the 12H-T is on the right. However, looking at the cast aluminum nozzle covering the thermostat, it is a trangular plate with 3 bolts. I think it can be rotated 120 degress to match the old radiator.

- Eric
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Thats good to know about the radiator also. I shall put that on the list of things to get. Also I know this may be a far fetched question. Does anyone out there know of anyone or has anyone done the conversion from a petro to a diesel in Tucson or Phoenix,Arizona? Was registering the vehicle as a diesel non-U.S. a hassle ?
 
Oh and also I am aware that that the 3B is better perfoming than the 2H and H model engine. What is the difference between the two engines,and why is the latter have lower engine performance? Would finding parts for the 3B be difficult to find in the U.S?
 
Jaybikman said:
Oh and also I am aware that that the 3B is better perfoming than the 2H and H model engine. What is the difference between the two engines,and why is the latter have lower engine performance? Would finding parts for the 3B be difficult to find in the U.S?
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The 2H has A a few more horse power mainly because it has a few more cubes.
Probably a bit smoother to drive being a 6 cyl vs the 4cyl 3B
 
More questions about diesel conversions. Does the power steering pump off of a FJ60 2F config mate up with a H model config? I know the steering pump is on the opposite side meaning longer hoses to the steering box. Am I right? Also what is the differences between a H and a 2H model engine? Would the similar incidences be the same between the early F and 2F Engine? Is the crankshaft splining the same between both H model engines?
 
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Jaybikman said:
More questions about diesel conversions. Does the power steering pump off of a FJ60 2F config mate up with a H model config? I know the steering pump is on the opposite side meaning longer hoses to the steering box. Am I right? Also what is the differences between a H and a 2H model engine? Would the similar incidences be the same between the early F and 2F Engine? Is the crankshaft splining the same between both H model engines?
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They all use the same steering box ,my 1HZ pump was plugged into the old steering box by using the HZJ** power steering lines, even the holes were there for the plastic clips that hold the lines secure.
I also had to go right to left whereas the old 3F pump was on the RH side with the box

Differences betwen a H and 2H is cubic capacity 3.6? vs 4.0
Different lubrication method.
The H motor doesnt have the holes drilled for power steering brackets.

Not sure about the spline count but I would think it the same.
 
roscoFJ73 said:
They all use the same steering box ,my 1HZ pump was plugged into the old steering box by using the HZJ** power steering lines, even the holes were there for the plastic clips that hold the lines secure.
I also had to go right to left whereas the old 3F pump was on the RH side with the box

Differences betwen a H and 2H is cubic capacity 3.6? vs 4.0
Different lubrication method.
The H motor doesnt have the holes drilled for power steering brackets.

Not sure about the spline count but I would think it the same.
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I guess the lubrication in the H and 2H differences are different,as is the F and 2F engines from what I am told. Is there a way for me to use my current power steering pump I have in my 2F for the H model engine due to the no mount holes for the PSP? Would I have to fabricate or purchase something to make the PSP work with the H engine?
 
Jaybikman said:
I guess the lubrication in the H and 2H differences are different,as is the F and 2F engines from what I am told. Is there a way for me to use my current power steering pump I have in my 2F for the H model engine due to the no mount holes for the PSP? Would I have to fabricate or purchase something to make the PSP work with the H engine?
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I think the part where the holes are drilled for the PS bracket are on the H motor.
I would get them tapped while the engine is out.
I suppose you could make up a bracket but I think doing it Toyotas way is easier in the long run.
 
So i have a huge question about the 2H conversion. Does the engine mounting mate up as like the 2F ? I am under the impression the inner fenders are different everything is different is this conversion a task more than I bargained for ?
 
Jaybikman said:
So i have a huge question about the 2H conversion. Does the engine mounting mate up as like the 2F ? I am under the impression the inner fenders are different everything is different is this conversion a task more than I bargained for ?
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no engine swap is simple. there will be hurdles. Best part about doing a 2H ENG into a 2f truck is the combatabilty they say. But don't count on everything working smoothly. But you are picking the right engine for smooth.

I'm coming up on year 2 of having my truck apart. It grows old not driving a cruiser fast. I need to get it done. So how much time do you want to commit is the biggest obsticle. For me I do maintenance for a living, so its hard to hit it when I am home working on the cruiser.

How big a task is debatable.
 
brownbear said:
no engine swap is simple. there will be hurdles. Best part about doing a 2H ENG into a 2f truck is the combatabilty they say. But don't count on everything working smoothly. But you are picking the right engine for smooth.

I'm coming up on year 2 of having my truck apart. It grows old not driving a cruiser fast. I need to get it done. So how much time do you want to commit is the biggest obsticle. For me I do maintenance for a living, so its hard to hit it when I am home working on the cruiser.

How big a task is debatable.
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What kind of hurdles did you encounter? I am asking about the side engine mounts. I was told they are further back or up forward I am not sure. I am aware that there will be hurdles. Also they use 24V I am told. my system is 12V and i intend to keep it that way. I am not a huge fan of tampering with electricals. Smooth is definitely what I am looking for. I just want to prove my rig is different than the usual FJ-60 here in Tucson.
 
Jaybikman said:
What kind of hurdles did you encounter? I am asking about the side engine mounts. I was told they are further back or up forward I am not sure. I am aware that there will be hurdles. Also they use 24V I am told. my system is 12V and i intend to keep it that way. I am not a huge fan of tampering with electricals. Smooth is definitely what I am looking for. I just want to prove my rig is different than the usual FJ-60 here in Tucson.
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No I did not swap engines. I am doing a resto type job. Painfully slow at that.

I too would keep it 12 volt.


In my opinion( I have never done a swap)

I would go with a 12 volt alt, starter and EDIC. If the EDIC could not be sourced I would use manual cable for turning the engine on and off.
If the ALT could not be sourced I would use a hi output Domestic alt. And a electrical vacuum pump
If the starter you got(24v) could not found in 12v, I would have it rewound or buy a 12v from Japan etc.

It is not impossible to get going 12v.

From numerous posts(which could be internet lore) I have heard a 2H is direct bolt in. It has been mentioned numerous times here.
 
I plan on swapping into a deisel as well. I helped out a local cruiser friend swap a 2H into his 85 FJ60 "I was just an extra set of hands". The motor mounts need to be relocated. He did quite a bit, complete 24 volt swap. I would like to keep mine 12 volt when the time comes. I have been watching the Canadian craigslist for a donor.

Jim
 
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