Dead truck on the trail. Help!

[SteveO]

First run with the cruiser since it's been back together and the last 4 hours of the trail were attached to the back of a Jeep as I had my sorry rig dragged to the road where I hope to head back tonight and fix it.

I'm pretty sure the problem is fuel related since it will run for a little bit with no load on the engine, then die. There's no fuel in the bowl in the carb and when I pull a fuel line off the carb it seems like little to no fuel is getting there, making me suspect the mech. fuel pump on my 2F.

I'm thinking of taking an electric pump and new fuel filter and hoping that will take care of the problem although it's cold and snowing and I hate working in the dark but I'm pretty much out of ideas. I don't have a trailer and my Tacoma won't pull it safely if I did, so a roadside repair is my best option. A tow bill would cost me more than I feel my rig is worth right now.

Any other ideas or possible causes to the issue before I head out there with the wrong parts? Can I just put an electric pump in line with the mech pump to get me home and rebuild the mech one? All suggestions appreciated. Thanks. ......Steve

 

[sepr2]

Run electric pump directly to carb in my opinion. Cut fuel line before man. fuel pump and then run to carb. How far is home?

 

[sepr2]

Take enough rubber fuel line to repair. More than you think would be good. Hate to be a couple inches short. Will come in handy later if over bought.

 

[SteveO]

Run electric pump directly to carb in my opinion. Cut fuel line before man. fuel pump and then run to carb. How far is home?

The only thing with bypassing the mech pump is that it's a hard line to the carb but I can probably get a piece of line on and tight with a hose clamp. I figured the mech pump is still moving, just not pumping enough to keep the engine on. I'll give it a go straight to the carb though, thanks.

The truck is about an hour from home, maybe a little more especially with the snow accumulating on the roads.

Just to confirm my thoughts, an electric pump will just connect in electrically to any ignition controlled wire right? I was thinking of throwing the hot lead on the coil. Thanks again. ....Steve

 

[sepr2]

I just wondered if the original pump was leaking into the block. Is there a filter before the man. pump you can hook a rubber line into? Just thinking of options. Pump should run from any 12V source. Orginal carbs are not affected as much as webers with pressure. Good Luck...Brian

 

[Idahofj40]

It may be a clogged fuel filter. It may not be getting enough fuel to the pump. If you bypass the pump and put in the electric pump I would make sure fuel is getting by the filter. I am not sure where your fuel filter is located???

 

[SteveO]

The fuel filter is located right before the line goes in to the mech pump and I am planning on bringing a new filter with me as well in case that is the problem. I was thinking the first offroad trip may have jarred loose some crap in the system and blocked the filter although the current one is clear and looks clean. I can easily get to the filter and in to the fuel line to put in a pump. ...Steve

 

[SteveO]

I just wondered if the original pump was leaking into the block.

How would I tell, other than draining the oil and looking for it? The thing ran like a top until today when it s*** the bed as the only Toyota out on a run with the Jeep club.

 

[sepr2]

Pull dip stick, does it smell strongly of gas? Over filled? Not sure of later curisers that are stock. Doesn't it have a filter before the pump? Could you hook in there? Previous post, you have checked the filters to make sure they are not blocked? There should be a screen at the fuel line attachment to the carb. Just trying to think of all possible.

 

[SteveO]

Pull dip stick, does it smell strongly of gas? Over filled? Not sure of later curisers that are stock. Doesn't it have a filter before the pump? Could you hook in there? Previous post, you have checked the filters to make sure they are not blocked? There should be a screen at the fuel line attachment to the carb. Just trying to think of all possible.

I'll check the screen (haven't seen that yet) and pull the dipstick when I get out there. It does have a filter before the pump, about a foot down the line on the tank side so it's an easy replacement. Thanks. ....Steve

 

[sepr2]

Pull fuel line at carb and crank and see what you get for fuel pressure. No hot motor, into a container...

 

[bigbluefj]

steve give me a call i can get a trailer to tow you if you still need one i can meet you

kevin 1403 688 3540

 

[2damslow]

DONT FORGET
If you run an electric pump to the carb you will need a pressure regulator set at about 4 pounds.

 

[Trollhole]

Also could be trash blocking the inlet in the fuel tank. What ever you do have some compressed air when you go back.

 

[SteveO]

Also could be trash blocking the inlet in the fuel tank. What ever you do have some compressed air when you go back.

Good thinking. I have OBA on my Taco (my normal wheeler) so I'll blow the lines clear first. ....Steve

 

[SteveO]

DONT FORGET
If you run an electric pump to the carb you will need a pressure regulator set at about 4 pounds.

Is this something the parts store will carry? All the parts places are closed now so I'm heading out at noon tomorrow after work. My poor truck has to spend it's first night outside since I've owned it.

 

[SteveO]

steve give me a call i can get a trailer to tow you if you still need one i can meet you

kevin 1403 688 3540

I replied to your PM but thanks a lot for the offer but I'll give it a go on my own and see how that works out. If I can't get it going I'll call you. Try to ignore the sobbing. ......Steve

 

[sepr2]

Stock carb should not need a regulator if it is a normal elec F/P. Normally around around 5 psi. Webber will be an issue...

 

[John McVicker]

Stock carb should not need a regulator if it is a normal elec F/P. Normally around around 5 psi. Webber will be an issue...

This is correct. Will not need a FPR w/OEM carb. I run a electric along w/my OEM mechnical set up. Do the smell test for gas w/the dipstick and all, but I would bet on a pluged fuel filter or line.

This can't be fun with snow coming. Good luck.

John

 

[SteveO]

This is correct. Will not need a FPR w/OEM carb. I run a electric along w/my OEM mechnical set up. Do the smell test for gas w/the dipstick and all, but I would bet on a pluged fuel filter or line.

This can't be fun with snow coming. Good luck.

John

Thanks for the confirmation. As soon as the parts place opens I'll pick up a few things and head out. Not sure on the forecast for tomorrow but we've got about 5" on my deck in the last 7 hrs. Should be fun.