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Cooler Ice Preservation -Desert Style

Discussion in 'Chit-Chat' started by kbtrans, Aug 22, 2006.

  1. kbtrans

    kbtrans

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    OK, off for a 5 day trip to the Maze Overlook in Canyonlands
    this Labor Day. Last time in the area was a 4 dayer and
    at the end of the 4th day we were ice-less.

    Anyone ever tried burying some Dry Ice in a cooler to
    make ice last longer? We would probably keep a separate
    cooler for this purpose that will not be opened at all
    until the last day.

    I have one of those stainless steel Colemans that was
    limited to a 4 day icekeep ... is there another cooler better
    insulated ?

    :beer:

    Paul
     
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    Dry ice is nice...keep it wrapped up....





    It is possible to freeze a gallon of milk solid....trust ME!!!

    The dry ice keeping ice sounds like a good idea...

    Also check out some of those new "super" coolers. I have one from Coleman it will keep normal ice for 6-7 days with smart useage.
     
  4. NorCalDoug

    NorCalDoug problems solved daily...

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    ARB/Engel/Norcold Fridge :D



    Or...you can get one of those newer coolers that guarantee that you'll have ice after 5 or 7 days (depending on manufacturer/model).

    The dry ice in a seperate cooler filled with ice should work fine.
     
  5. Colorado Boy-74-FJ40

    Colorado Boy-74-FJ40 I may grow older but I refuse to grow up!

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    separate the food from the dry ice with card board or the food will get freezer burned really bad.
     
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    srplus Walked with the Dinosaurs

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    Another trick to help ice last is to put a couple of Sunday newspapers on top of everything before putting the cooler lid on. It really helps... Several coolers with the ones that are most used separated from ones that you rarely need to get into will help extend the life of ice quite a bit. Block Ice and an ice pick is the way to go since cubes melt far too quickly.
     
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    I do that regularely for long Baja trips, and it gets HOT there. works very well.
    A problem is that it gets so cold,it all freezes to a solid block. It helps to seperate the dry ice from the wet ice by cloth. and definitely get 2 freezers, one for ice only, and one where you move ice into. food and dry ice does not mix too well, unless you like your ice cream fused to your tongue :D
     
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    Check out www.icee-kool.com, my 75 quart model has kept ice for 5 days so far. There was actually enough of the block left that I threw it in the freezer and used it two more weekends.

    One of these days I'm gonna do a side by side comparison with my old coleman but I haven't done it yet.
     
  10. kbtrans

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    Thanks everyone. I emailed Icee-Kool for a retailer in
    Denver. I'll either go that route or mix dry ice with block
    ice in my coleman.

    cheers and thanks

    Paul
     
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    surfpig The Anti-Tech

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    Haven't tried it myself, but a wet blanket over the cooler might keep things cool a bit longer, the old convective cooling idea.
     
  12. Cube Dweller

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    Dry Ice on the bottom, cubed ice on top. Last trip w/ Norcal 80's we had frozen cubed ice on day 3 at 80 degree temps.
     
  13. srplus

    srplus Walked with the Dinosaurs

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    When we used to spend days out on the gulf fishing we used to reline the fish boxes with sheet styrofoam and put a sheet of it on top before closing the lid... could keep ice in the fishbox for days and days doing that... without it the longest the boxes would hold ice was a day and a half.
     
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    The three cooler method.
    Cooler one is filled with half of your water supply in frozen form and holds drinks and snacks only.

    Cooler two is food and ice, open once a day and grab what you need. Bag each day in big ziplocks. Keep it wrapped in blankets and in the shade as much as possiable.

    Cooler three is ice only, never open it until you are out of ice. Keep it wrapped in blankets and in the shade as much as possiable.

    On the night of day three or morning of four you will consolidate everything into one cooler.

    I've seen dry ice used to keep food for long trips, pack the bottom of an ice chest with the dry ice, layer frozen food in the reverse order it will be used on top. Minimize opening the cooler, keep in shade yada yada.

    In the long haul I've found it easier to just learn to like the freeze dried backpacking stuff.
     
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    I go there during late June. (hot)

    HEre is what I do.

    I bring 2 coolers.
    1 larger '5 day' cooler. In which i keep mostly block ice, and most of the food. This cooler gets stashed in the shade, covered with a wool blanket, and a space blanket, and then duct taped shut. The space blanket is to reflect heat, the wool is an additional layer of insulation.

    1 smaller cooler, filled with food, and all beverages. This I also stock with crushed, or cube ice.

    As the ice in the smaller cooler melts, and things in it are used up, I restock ice and items from the larger '5 day' cooler. The trick is to open the '5day'cooler only when necessary, and usually in the evenings or early mornings when it's coolest.

    That or you can break down and get an ARB/Engle or propane fridge.
     
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    Dry Ice

    And what is the process that dry ice does, that no other solid does?

    it sublimates.

    That is it goes from a solid to a gas directly. And it will burn the crap out of you if you are not careful. Ditto on the freezing ability. I put the D ice in the bottom of the chest, then grocery store brown bags, then goods I want frozen like meat, then beverages, then produce. keep it all in the shade, covered with a surplus sleeping bag.

    Then I'll buy a portable electric refer....

    JB
     
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    Additionally, start with cold food. Freeze items that you won't be using right away, like meats and non-carbonated drinks. Get them as cold as possible- turn your freezer way down.

    -Spike
     
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    Emptying any melted ice water out regularly will help too.:)
     
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    Really? I always thought you were supposed to leave it in there, but I don't have any reason for it. I know it will keep food colder, but that probably means the ice is used up faster, I guess... :confused:

    -Spike
     
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    Not sure of the science behind it but it works. I guess the ice keeps colder when surrounded by air rather than water.
     
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