CLC Tools and Shop Thread (4 Viewers)

[jynx]

I am over-thinking insulating the pole barn now that we are getting some of the house stuff out of it. Metal skin, wood framing. Want to heat in the winter, likely just a big-ass fan or similar for summer use. Walls are 6" thick, my plan is to build out a 4" wall flush with the post fronts and use R-13 kraft faced batt in that. This will leave about 1.5"-2" to wall girts and then another 1.5" to metal skin. Question, should I install a vapor barrier/retarder on the face of the girts? From reading, keeping air from moving from cold to hot seems to be key to preventing condensation and that is what I am really worrying myself over. I don't want to trap moisture, or create a place for moisture to condense inside the wall assembly, but I want to stop air movement.

Do any of these look right?

Option 1:

Metal skin -- wall girts -- 6mil poly or tyvek -- air space -- R-13 -- wall covering

Option 2:

Metal skin -- wall girts -- air space -- R-13 -- wall covering

Option 3:

Metal skin -- wall girts -- air space -- R-13 -- 6mil poly -- wall covering

Other???

 

[dnp]

I'm thinking metal>girts>insulation>poly>air space>wall covering. Seems like That will prevent any unconditioned air from having a chance to condense on anything.

Anyone else have an opinion? That's just how I've see it done before....

 

[Clutchee]

Take pics so I can see; I'm visual fellow.
As of now think foam whole thing but let me see it first.

 

[Fireman]

I've been in a few down here that they've sprayed the whole damned thing after the electrical was done and they are tight and seem to be working out well for cooling and heating.

 

[dnp]

I've been in a few down here that they've sprayed the whole damned thing after the electrical was done and they are tight and seem to be working out well for cooling and heating.

Yeah, if foam is an option, that seems to be the way to go. I'm trying to sell a small (3,000 s.f.) building right now where the owner sprayed in isocyanurate foam, and it's awesome......like a little Yeti cooler!

 

[wngrog]

It made a world of difference in my house. The spray foam.

 

[jynx]

We did foam in the house and I have looked at foam for the barn too, but I'm kind of doing this as I go and foam is kind of a all at once thing. Plus I have most everything except the actual batts right now. I had planned to do foam, but because of all the stuff that is in there, I kind of have to shift things around to clear out a spot at a time to do a section at a time. That's why I'm looking at the batt, I can do a section the, move stuff down and do the next section.

 

[dnp]

I'm putting this here, because I consider this to be a "tool."

For those of you who have any corroded / rusted chrome, I found some pretty amazing stuff. I've always gotten rust off of chrome by cleaning it and then using 0000 steel wool. That works pretty good, but it sometimes takes a lot of effort, and I've always wondered if it was leaving micro-scratches that'll allow the chrome to rust later on. Also, I've heard of people using aluminum foil and water (or Coke) to get it off, but that looked like a lot of work to me without any polishing benefits like the steel wool.

Then, I heard about this stuff (on Jay Leno's garage, of all places) http://www.quick-glo.com/ and WOW does it work! It takes MUCH less effort than the steel wool, it has polishing benefits, and it's said to also leave a protective coating that won't (or at least delays) let the chrome rust again.

Anyway, just another time-saving tool for your garage arsenal (and maybe everyone already knows about this stuff, and I'm just late to the game.......but in case you don't, here it is)

 

[wngrog]

You polish a turd as good as anyone I know.

 

[dnp]

You polish a turd as good as anyone I know.

I keep trying to pick this turd up from the "clean end," but I'm making little headway......

 

[MScruiser]

Damn @dnp , that looks great!

Wow

I've got a few chrome 40 bits I may bring by and get you to polish.

 

[wngrog]

@dnp don't Polish nuthin unless he's sellin

 

[dnp]

Damn @dnp , that looks great!

Wow

I've got a few chrome 40 bits I may bring by and get you to polish.

Yeah, this stuff (as for what I've done so far) is crazy good.....

@dnp don't Polish nuthin unless he's sellin

He said he's got some 40 "bits," which I interpret to be small.....for the larger stuff, he may be on his own!

 

[Elbert]

We did foam in the house and I have looked at foam for the barn too, but I'm kind of doing this as I go and foam is kind of a all at once thing. Plus I have most everything except the actual batts right now. I had planned to do foam, but because of all the stuff that is in there, I kind of have to shift things around to clear out a spot at a time to do a section at a time. That's why I'm looking at the batt, I can do a section the, move stuff down and do the next section.

why not say the hell with it and move all the crap out one day and do the entire inside at one time....seems like taking it in segments is going to be too aggravating...or would be for me. That is if you could ensure the "installers" would show up on time. not sure everything has to come out certainly would have to be covered and away from teh walls.

 

[wngrog]

The foam is tits.

 

[GOVT MULE]

The foam is tits.

And mice wont run through it....

 

[under_psi]

One more thing I'll never buy at Harbor Freight. Wire wheels for angle grinder. I bought 2 packs each of cupped and flat wheels a few weeks ago. They're so out of balance that they literally tore up one of my grinders. And feel like they'll shake out of a good grip at any time.....

Dewalt cup is smooth. Unreal.

 

[jynx]

Picked up a HF tool cart today. Been eyeing them ever since I saw @beno s unit last summer. Read lots of good stuff about them for the $$ and with coupons the price was right.

Big box.

Some assembly required.

Took about 3 hours at a leisurely pace.

I also picked up this wrench organizer while I was mulling around.

Overall it seems like a solid unit, now just have to start filling it up.

 

[wngrog]

That secret button to open the drawz tho......

 

[Bodean]

Wait you saw @beno's unit?