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I’m sure you know the owner, I wouldn’t doubt if you are one and the same due to the ignorance that come out of both of your
!!!! I mean what toyota man doesn’t know what a NCF is? The only reason I posted numbers was because of another poster ignorance claiming a bbc LE8 is only good for 200hp. To say a guy can’t have a bbc when his lover has a 6bt because of power is ignorant!!! Are you just throwing an emotional temper tantrum???
The funny part about this thread is that there's more in common than not. Big blocks, diesels, HP, turbos, axles, killin it offroad, talking the big talk, etc..... I bet all of these dudes would actually have a great time shooting the breeze in person while admiring and critiquing each others rigs.
As for @95BBC this is the warm mud welcome you were probably hoping for, spread among 45 posts, insults and all
No but you obviously are when you reply with disrespect and negativity to my suggestion of one ton axles which could very well address the driveline challenges you opened this thread with.I’m sure you know the owner, I wouldn’t doubt if you are one and the same due to the ignorance that come out of both of your
With this rig I just want to get it running. My Exploder has a 5.0 running 5.13 Dana ttb 35 front axle with 44 knuckles and 8.8 rear, it was also my dual purpose play toy, sand snow and rocks. I plan on high pinion 60 and 70 in rear.I think over 300-400hp is pushing ones luck and running on the ragged edge. I'd rather not run things at 'with luck it will survive' or 'if I throw enough money at it, it might survive'.
There was a guy on the Con last weekend that blew out his semi-float 80 axle. He got VERY lucky that a cruiser guy was monitoring the HAM radio that knew another cruiser guy who was heading up to the Con that weekend who just happened to know a place in Sacramento where he could pick up that shaft.
I prefer not to be a trail boulder when I could have done a reasonable upgrade... especially since we are talking about an FJ80 that isn't going for 'muh Toyota'
You can build a 80 series rear axle to be pretty strong nowadays. They make 32 spline chromoly shafts for it now.I think over 300-400hp is pushing ones luck and running on the ragged edge. I'd rather not run things at 'with luck it will survive' or 'if I throw enough money at it, it might survive'.
There was a guy on the Con last weekend that blew out his semi-float 80 axle. He got VERY lucky that a cruiser guy was monitoring the HAM radio that knew another cruiser guy who was heading up to the Con that weekend who just happened to know a place in Sacramento where he could pick up that shaft.
I prefer not to be a trail boulder when I could have done a reasonable upgrade... especially since we are talking about an FJ80 that isn't going for 'muh Toyota'
Who said I’m building these axlesI understand the 'get it running'. Trying to compare a 8.8 surviving behind a 5.0L engine isn't remotely close to comparing a 9.x axle behind a big block.
And what is the cost? With the Toyota stuff, my bench building show that by the time you get it to 'a little stronger' than a stock Dana 60, you've spent as much or more than a stock Dana 60... and you have limited gear choices and no further upgrade path
As an example, I can buy a stock Ford e350 van full float disc braked Dana 60 for $350 or much less everyday... I've done this three times now without even trying to find a Pick-n-pull or a friend of a friend 'steal'. It comes stock with 32 spline shafts and is ready for 35 spline with a simple stock side gear swap(free to $50). ~$400 gets you 35 spline Chromo shafts. In order to get 32 spline shafts into an LC axle, don't you have to change the diff to go from 30 spline to 32 spline since 32 spline isn't stock? I forget the number thrown at me on getting 35 spline ARB for an LC but I want to say it was $500 in addition to the ARB.
If you jumped into the SD front axles, you easily have a 40 spline upgrade pathAnd from what I've seen, the SD front axles are much cheaper than kingpin Dana 60s. If I wasn't locked into the Dodge eco system, I would have gone the SD route.
But, this argument is somewhat moot since the OP seems dead set on using the FJ axles.
I’m getting it running, you reply was helpful in the way that I should really try to get the 205 to work now and then in the future I have an easier upgrade path.
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Well a 1 ton is perhaps less expensive but its significantly heavier and a fair amount of fab work has to be done to swap it in but a decent option. Installing axle shafts and a 100 series 3rd member is fairly expensive, but pretty straight forward and would be strong enough for most peoples uses of a 80 series.I understand the 'get it running'. Trying to compare a 8.8 surviving behind a 5.0L engine isn't remotely close to comparing a 9.x axle behind a big block.
And what is the cost? With the Toyota stuff, my bench building show that by the time you get it to 'a little stronger' than a stock Dana 60, you've spent as much or more than a stock Dana 60... and you have limited gear choices and no further upgrade path
As an example, I can buy a stock Ford e350 van full float disc braked Dana 60 for $350 or much less everyday... I've done this three times now without even trying to find a Pick-n-pull or a friend of a friend 'steal'. It comes stock with 32 spline shafts and is ready for 35 spline with a simple stock side gear swap(free to $50). ~$400 gets you 35 spline Chromo shafts. In order to get 32 spline shafts into an LC axle, don't you have to change the diff to go from 30 spline to 32 spline since 32 spline isn't stock? I forget the number thrown at me on getting 35 spline ARB for an LC but I want to say it was $500 in addition to the ARB.
If you jumped into the SD front axles, you easily have a 40 spline upgrade path
But, this argument is somewhat moot since the OP seems dead set on using the FJ axles.
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I really wouldn't trust the stock FJ80 axles behind any modest amount of power. My 472 cady FJ55 is getting 35 spline Dana 60s to ensure no issues
My 472 is getting 3.54 gears and 35" tires to handle the 'speed' issue. On the other hand, I can't get out of the hills that I live in in under 30 miles
As somewhat already noted, Northwest Fab actually makes a Turbo 400 to FJ80 case. The OP noted that the price was pretty damn high and required a different output shaft as well as a stock Chevy adapter in addition to their adapter. At the price quoted, he might see if they have a Blackbox available for the FJ80 case. Or drop kick the FJ80 and go with a split case if offset tcase is desirable. If not, maybe just head straight for an Atlas or Dana 300.
Oh come on, it's the interwebs and we give people a little flack, when the do something different , we give them a hard time especially, a new guy
That’s how this place works, my bad
You have me intrigued about the viability of mating the 454 to the a343f.
If you make a343f adapters to lazy bellhousing people would love it!!!
