Bilstein part #s for 4" or slightly taller lift?

[dieselcruiserhead]

Subject basically says it all.. I found part numbers for the 2.5" but not for anything bigger. Also any valving recommendations? I don't mind fabbing, would actually prefer a nice single cartidge unit like a 5125 instead of a remote reservoir mostly for durability... Thoughts on this?

 

[alkaline747trio]

You have to run pin/eye adapters and grab a 12-14" travel shock.

 

[Walking Eagle]

talk to Frankie's Off Road perhaps? He runs 5150's on his 3" kit.

 

[CreeperSleeper]

talk to Frankie's Off Road perhaps? He runs 5150's on his 3" kit.

He even sells a kit to replace all 4 shocks with the adaptors. I thought about just ordering it, but I may go down to MetalTech and spend some quality time with the fork lift and a measuring tape!

 

[Nay]

On a 4" lift with no mods to the shock mounts except eye adapters you are looking at a 10" travel shock, which is ideal for an 80 that has a stock front linked setup (adding rear travel without increasing front is of no advantage IMO). 255/70 would be the standard valving of choice, but it really depends on what springs you are running. The shocks from Frankie's kit are softer valved in conjunction with his spring design.

Do your measurements - if you have a true 4" lift the 10" travel 5125 should be about dead on. If you give me your shock mount surface to mount surface measurements I can tell you exactly how the 5125 will sit at static ride height in terms of up/down travel with eye adapters.

 

[dieselcruiserhead]

Cool.. I haven't fabbed up anything yet RE eye adapters, I was not worried about that though. But may buy the bolt on kit from Frankies or whoever.. I already have a deal on a OME kit from Kurt with some tradeout so that is what I'll do. I was thinking J's or maybe Js in the rear with some 4" comps in the front. I want a good soft riding great rought road absorption probably first, but not too sway-ie and stable on the highway of course.. It will spend 95% of the time on the road I estimate.. Basically I want it all If you guys do have recommendations let me know Cheers, Andre

 

[dieselcruiserhead]

PS if you have a part number and/or a chart for Bilsteins (haven't been able to find one for Bilsteins) with compressed and exteneded lengths that would help a lot too IMO...

 

[alkaline747trio]

I'd go with pro-comps if you're not going to the high end Bilsteins. $80 a pair or less, 3000 for soft, 9000 for firm, just get some in the right travel and you'll be happy and so will your wallet.

 

[Ivan80]

Here's a link to the bilstein page with compressed/extended lengths for the 5125 series shocks.

the BE5-6248-H5 look like they may be a good fit.

http://www.bilstein.com/offroad_5125.php

 

[Nay]

Here's a link to the bilstein page with compressed/extended lengths for the 5125 series shocks.

the BE5-6248-H5 look like they may be a good fit.

http://www.bilstein.com/offroad_5125.php

That is the right shock. On a true 4" lift, you should be right at 4.5" - 5" up travel and 5"-5.5" down. 255/70 valving.

Now if you want that super soft ride both unloaded and loaded, FOR has that kit with Bilsteins already dialed in.

 

[dieselcruiserhead]

cool thank you guys.. Can someone explain how the valving works again, what the numbers actually mean? And the sense I get is that the feel is overall "softer" but it is a progressive shock so the resistance increases the further it compresses, correct?

 

[dieselcruiserhead]

we are in discussion about this on our club board... Here is a pic of the shock mount adapters from MAF:

We are discussing how much shock length you lose, versus stock pin setup, because of the adapters front and rear... Any comments on this?

 

[drexx]

29Apr2007 (UTC +8)

Great info guys, thanks! I'm thinking this mods can fit into an FZJ-105 as well. Just for reference, here's FOR's website: http://frankies4x4.com/FZJ80.php

 

[450 DUDE]

Hey guys I was thinking of going down this same road.
I looking for about the same stuff as Andre .
Can anyone add to this ,Andre what did you end up with?
Is the one shock p/n good for the front and rear?

Thanks,

ken

 

[dieselcruiserhead]

Unfortunately never did, so nothing to report. Some day!

Cheers,
Andre

 

[450 DUDE]

Bummer, Im planning to do something soon.

Im playing with the Idea of using the 5125 and cutting the bushing boss off and welding (ever so carefully) a stud on.
Im not likeing the Idea of loosing travel from the adaptors.
Is this crazy ,out of controll (its my MO).
Any comments appreciated


Thanks,

ken

 

[alia176]

We are discussing how much shock length you lose, versus stock pin setup, because of the adapters front and rear... Any comments on this?

Well it's a give and take situation here...you gain 1.5" of travel per shock (per end) during droop. As long as you you have a short body remote reservoir shock, the loss of 1.5" during stuffage shouldn't be a problem.

Regarding welding of a stud in the place of a round eye, it's been on my mind lately. It shouldn't be too difficult to weld on a bolt I'd suspect. Let me know if you follow through with this.

Thanks.

 

[450 DUDE]

Cool, its good to know that someone else has thought about this.
My finger is in hover mode on the trigger for the Bilsteins.
Im also toying with using an articulated bolt to weld on.Not sure how much advantage if any that would be.
Unfortunatly that takes up some room.?
When I end up doing something I will post up.

ken

 

[Kalawang]

we are in discussion about this on our club board... Here is a pic of the shock mount adapters from MAF:

We are discussing how much shock length you lose, versus stock pin setup, because of the adapters front and rear... Any comments on this?

I made something similar for my front dampers because the only ones I could find long enough were ring/ring. You dont lose length here, you gain. In my case, it added one inch to the total extended.

Kalawang

 

[dieselcruiserhead]

My guess is the loss is minimal.. Maybe someone running them can comment..