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"big bumper" causes death

Discussion in '80-Series Tech' started by floatinghat, Mar 5, 2004.

  1. floatinghat

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    I heard on the radio this morning there is a law suit in Salem Oregon. The cause of death according to the mother was caused by the modified "big bumper". I guess her kid was in a car accident with a pick up that had a "big bumper". Has anyone every had a liability concern?

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  2. PHAEDRUS

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    as long as you are within dot regulations I dont see what the deal would be. boviously if you have a home grown bar with spikes there will be issues. but that is why you have car insurance and set your limits to 100/300 at least. well that is unless you dont mind filing bankruptcy and paying reparations for the rest of your life.
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  3. IdahoDoug

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    Interesting. What would she say if her son was instead hit by a far more deadly semi truck that weighed far more than a truck with an extra 120lbs of bumper? I feel for anybody who loses a loved one, but to assign blame based upon someone's legal choice to add a bumper doesn't seem right. I'd be interested in more details.
     
  4. cary

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    [quote author=Phaedrus link=board=2;threadid=12616;start=msg115979#msg115979 date=1078530145]
    as long as you are within dot regulations I dont see what the deal would be. boviously if you have a home grown bar with spikes there will be issues. but that is why you have car insurance and set your limits to 100/300 at least. well that is unless you dont mind filing bankruptcy and paying reparations for the rest of your life.
    Dave
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    Two words "Umbrella Policy"

    Cary
     
  5. scottm

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    I guess any modification that added weight could also be a factor.
     
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    hmm, unless the bumper was not street legal I don't see a case. The trouble will start if she joins ARB as a defendant for designing such a scarey bumper. Then we will all start paying for ARB's new insurance premiums and trying to figure out why they all of a sudden have handy warning stickers on them saying "warning, running into people or cars with this bumper attached to your truck may cause more damage than running into them with a factory bumper. Always avoid running into people or other cars when this bumper is attached". Or maybe "not for on-road use - detach when pavement encountered".
     
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    Cary's 100% right - and don't wait too long to get one. I was denied an umbrella policy by USAA because I had, gasp, Teenagers. BigMac
     
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    [quote author=BigMac link=board=2;threadid=12616;start=msg116071#msg116071 date=1078537621]Cary's 100% right - and don't wait too long to get one. I was denied an umbrella policy by USAA because I had, gasp, Teenagers.[/quote]
    I got mine from USAA just before my oldest started driving, I figured I wouldn't be able to get it after.
     
  9. bjowett

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    [quote author=BigMac link=board=2;threadid=12616;start=msg116071#msg116071 date=1078537621]
    Cary's 100% right - and don't wait too long to get one. I was denied an umbrella policy by USAA because I had, gasp, Teenagers. BigMac
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    Umbrella??
    And I was denied in the PRK because I owned a "jetski". I told them it was a PWC !!??. They didn't know what that meant even though that is what it said on the title!! They also had a problem with the KZ650. I still don't know how I could cause that much damage considering the outcome of a collision that I was guaranteed to loose and the only property damaged would be my melon??.
     
  11. drexx

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    Maybe this is related news?

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    DO big bumpers pose a danger out on the roads?
    Katu.com - Portland,OR,USA
    ... The first Portland fatal auto accident last year involved a Toyota
    Land Cruiser with an add-on front bumper that t-boned a BMW, killing the
    driver of that car. ...
    http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=64949

    =================================================================
     
  12. T Y L E R

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    [glow=black,2,2] As far as the law goes , I don't really know one way or the other .

    However ............ I had the unfortunate task of pulling two teenage boys from a wreakage on the highway a few years ago , and trying to resuscitate one of them enroute to the trauma hospital . One image is forever etched in my mind from that call ............ the distinct impression of a massive steel truck bumper in the side of the boys' car's sheetmetal . A pickup with a huge steel bumper t-boned the boys car . I could literally see a complete relief of the bumper , right down to bolts .

    Lets face it .... that guys with the pickup truck added that bumper for a reason ... maybe it was for survival from a deer strike , or moose , or MVC ..... and it did it's job , as my patient can attest do ; it annihilated him !

    In all honesty I drive my 80 for it's size amongst other things . I know that I might have the upper hand in an MVC one day ..... but if and when I approach the idea of outfitting an ARB or other aftermarket hunk of metal to it's front , I will sense a psychological tug that sends me back to that accident scene . Back to that impression .. back to that carnage ... and I will have some serious considering to do .

    Sometimes I think bigger is better , of course .... then in other moments of clarity , I wonder if we'd all be safer if vehicles were somehow on a more level , controlled playing field . Size , mass etc . Sure takes the fun out of things , I know ... and only exists in some far off dream world where safety reigns supreme .... but I bet for an eternity , those boys will wish they'd existed in such a world .....

    This is all , granted , myopic .. and rather unrealistic . But it IS from the heart ... do with it as you will .........................[/glow]

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