Be Careful Buying BFG AT/KO

[tarbe]

If I do the math, based on wear so far during the first 32,000 miles of use (.1"...from .530 to .430 ave depth), assuming wear is linear, and assuming I dump the tires with 6/32" tread left, it is going to take 110k miles of driving before I get a chance to try out some different tires

If I had known they'd last this long, I would have looked for a half-used set

 

[Romer]

Yeah mine have 16,000 miles on them and they still look new.

 

[Newps]

I have never actually worn out a set. I have always sold the vehicle before they needed replacement. Dam things wear like steel.

 

[G-Cat]

it is going to take 110k miles of driving before I get a chance to try out some different tires

Fact.

I have 55K miles on mine and they look to have well over 50% tread left.

 

[spartan]

Wear like steel - but spin like grease on wet pavement after the first 15,000 miles or so.

 

[Nay]

Wear like steel - but spin like grease on wet pavement after the first 15,000 miles or so.

And freeze like biscuits when the snow gets deep and temps drop....as long as bad weather traction isn't a concern for the next 5 years, get out there and buy a set

 

[UltraFJ40]

Same deal here. Someone warned me that if I wanted to try another brand of tire to buy the other brand first. I discounted the advice and bought the BFG's.

Nearly 60K miles later, they're still looking good.



I should have listened.

Doug

 

[XXXR]

Based on your comments, do you think that the BF's are good for a daily driver? I run the thing offroad, but run it on the road 95% of the time. If they suck in the wet, then it may not be the right choice for me.

 

[NorCalDoug]

long-wearing tires (harder rubber) are nice for life-span, but how are they off-road? Anyone have problems with traction? Softer rubber tends to grip better, but wear worse.

Anyone have traction/grip problems with the AT/KOs? When I had a set, I recall they lasted forever...until I blew a sidewall out of one at highway speed. I never got to wheel much with that set, so I don't have any experience with them as far as traction goes.

 

[spartan]

In other words - they are great moderate temp - dry contact tire - i.e. southwest - baja. They are not good on wet pavement or in mud of any kind, especially in cool climates.

Best of their time - but surpassed by many other tires now....

 

[Romer]

They are great on road, and I have not had a problem with traction off road air'd down to 15-20psi depending on the conditions.

 

[Critter]

I got 50K+ out of my set on my Tacoma, I have a set of 285's sitting in the garage waiting for the 80. I was terrible about rotating them and my truck was never in alignment after I lifted it.

I didn't think they would last as long considering how much lighter the Tacoma was.

For those running 285's on 16x8 wheels, what pressure do you keep them at?

 

[Nordic]

same story here, on my second set, got 60k+ on mine. Do OK on mud, good on ice and snow as long as its not over a foot deep. Ill go MT next time, but that will be awhile...............

 

[Atticus]

I got 50K+ out of my set on my Tacoma, I have a set of 285's sitting in the garage waiting for the 80. I was terrible about rotating them and my truck was never in alignment after I lifted it.

I didn't think they would last as long considering how much lighter the Tacoma was.

For those running 285's on 16x8 wheels, what pressure do you keep them at?

This doesn't answer your question, but I HATE my AT/KO's in Alabama mud. HATE HATE HATE HATE.

My LTX M/S were about the same traction-wise in the mud.

 

[Nay]

long-wearing tires (harder rubber) are nice for life-span, but how are they off-road? Anyone have problems with traction? Softer rubber tends to grip better, but wear worse.

Anyone have traction/grip problems with the AT/KOs? When I had a set, I recall they lasted forever...until I blew a sidewall out of one at highway speed. I never got to wheel much with that set, so I don't have any experience with them as far as traction goes.

Yes. Terrible in deep snow when it starts to get cold - at about 5:00 pm when the sun is setting they start acting like Cinderella (think pumpkins). Simply scary lack of lateral traction in poor conditions, on or offroad. IMHO, unpredictability is the worst characteristic a tire can possess.

These aren't "bad" tires - for moderate use most people won't need anything else in the rocks, and people certainly drive around every day in all types of conditions on tires a hell of a lot worse than BFG AT's.

A 285 size KO just shouldn't cost $185. If I was pricing this tire on an all around performance basis, it wouldn't be more than $130 or so a tire (285/75). The letters B F and G cost about $20 each per tire.

N I T and O seem to be free

Nay

 

[Arya Ebrahimi]

You guys must not be trying hard enough. I ate through 2 sets of 265/75 16's on my Cherokee in 2 years. I also drive like I'm drivinga F1 car though

I was always very happy w/ the BFG AT's performance on hardpack snow and in general they never let me down except for the nasty clay based mud we have here. Granted, I have recieved better performance in varying conditions from other tires(BFG MT's on wet rock, Revo's in snow/ice/etc), but was never truely "disappointed" in the AT's performance.

With that said, for a good on-road tire that excels as an "AT" I would look no further than the Dueller Revo unless you need bigger than 285s. This tire has been the best multi-purpose tire I've owned to date. I'm gonna get about 40k miles out of them, and they are some hard and abusive miles.

Ary

 

[Nay]

You guys must not be trying hard enough. I ate through 2 sets of 265/75 16's on my Cherokee in 2 years. I also drive like I'm drivinga F1 car though

I was always very happy w/ the BFG AT's performance on hardpack snow and in general they never let me down except for the nasty clay based mud we have here. Granted, I have recieved better performance in varying conditions from other tires(BFG MT's on wet rock, Revo's in snow/ice/etc), but was never truely "disappointed" in the AT's performance.

With that said, for a good on-road tire that excels as an "AT" I would look no further than the Dueller Revo unless you need bigger than 285s. This tire has been the best multi-purpose tire I've owned to date. I'm gonna get about 40k miles out of them, and they are some hard and abusive miles.

Ary

Yea, I was eating through mine as well...they weren't lasting any better than an MT...maybe 30K miles of real world use. Must be those heavy Cherokees

 

[Arya Ebrahimi]

Yea, I was eating through mine as well...they weren't lasting any better than an MT...maybe 30K miles of real world use. Must be those heavy Cherokees

 

[TiredIronGRB]

The BFG AT/KO is fine for Oil Analyzers and Sticker Straighteners but there's nothing like a Bogger

 

[boydmick]

For those running 285's on 16x8 wheels, what pressure do you keep them at?

I did exhaustive testing (please don't ask, or I'll have to post in the OCD thread ) at various pressures and have found the best wear/comfort compromise -

Around town, empty:
F - 28 R - 26

Around town, med load:
F - 28 R - 28

Around town, full load:
F - 29 R - 29

Highway, empty:
F - 30 R - 30

Highway, med load:
F - 30 R - 32

Highway, full load:
F - 32 R - 36

Rotate 5 tires every 5,000 miles. Wear is perfectly even across the tread and tire to tire.

I expect 60,000 miles for the set.

Boyd