Back to your corners (1 Viewer)

[Fantom]

I've noticed that lately the forum has become a bit more liberal than usual. I've been guilty of it myself as much as any other member, so I am not innocent in this.
But if I were a new member and stumbled upon some of the threads and comments on here my first thought would be "what a bunch of dicks" and promptly leave in search of a better place.
We all have known each other for years, and many of us have shared stories and adventures that defined our friendships and even changed our lives. We end up developing a kind of friendship that allows us certain leeways and we get used to insulting each other or teasing back and forth.
This can be interpreted as something totally different by new members, and might make new members think they can get away with certain things even though they do not have the reputation or "seniority" in the club or the same relationship with its members.
Perhaps we should tone it down a bit before we insult potential new members or turn them away.
I personally don't care, if you're going to dish it out you better take it otherwise you need to go home, but others might have a different view, especially these days since we all just read things and can interpret them differently than they were meant because we do not know a person or see the body language or can decipher the sarcasm in their "voice". I think we should tone down the jabs, especially since I will be the first to tell you to fu$k off if you press me and I would hate to think that it hurt your feelings when I do.
So in the spirit of camaraderie, lets all just behave and play nice. There is no need for any of it, nor does it make this place any better for anyone. I know we all have suffered from cabin fever and not getting out there enough over the winter. Lets not make the situation worse and cheapen this place with such actions.

 

[AJAEbj42]

Yep, good call.

 

[Fantom]

Also, for the love of god people, can you please, please keep important threads on track!
anything that has to do with ordering stuff, technical topics like repairs and plans for a trip - keep it on topic and keep your personal entertainment out of it. It is annoying as all hell for those that are actually trying to get the facts out. If you feel like bullshitting and gossiping like a bunch of 70 year old women start your own damn thread and do it there!
Yes, I have done it too on occasion, and I will stop. Can we please return this forum to what it used to be and not what bc4x4.com became?

 

[Scalp]

I second all that, except for the jab about 70 year olds!

 

[Fantom]

I said 70 year old women, last I checked we didn't have any members that qualified for that status

 

[Yabedude]

Good call or wounded? I saw many taking stabs at others from day one since I joined. Do I give a s***? Not at all. It's the Internet. If someone jabs me and I don't like it, welcome to my ignore the a****** switch. I saw the Craigslist posts. Had a good laugh. Then noticed some get their nose out of joint and now this bs post.

Matt, your probably the worst one for jabbing at people. So what's wrong? Mid life crisis? Chill out and learn to ignore like the rest of us. And for fxxx sake, don't pull a John!

 

[Glenn-BJ74]

I agree with Matt - meaningfull contributions to a thread are welcome - good natured funny comments are great - off-topic non-productive digressions on a thread should be avoided
- and worse --insults, 'put-downs' and making 'fun' at others' expense should not be tolerated.

 

[Glenn-BJ74]

Good call or wounded? I saw many taking stabs at others from day one since I joined. Do I give a ****? Not at all. It's the Internet. If someone jabs me and I don't like it, welcome to my ignore the a****** switch. I saw the Craigslist posts. Had a good laugh. Then noticed some get their nose out of joint and now this bs post.

Matt, your probably the worst one for jabbing at people. So what's wrong? Mid life crisis? Chill out and learn to ignore like the rest of us. And for **** sake, don't pull a John!

I think Matt is trying to raise the standard a bit -- from this point forward.

 

[Yabedude]

It seems totally ironic to me.

 

[Tmax]

i think matt is trying to raise the standard a bit -- from this point forward.

 

[Fantom]

Chris, yes I have taken jabs at some of the other members, those who I consider friends, those who I have wheeled with and have know for many years. The in turn have taken jabs at me. All is good. But when a new member decides to get into the same line of thinking with people who he does not know, because he thinks that it is what we do here, then that is not right and can be interpreted the wrong way as well as it gives off the wrong message. No I am not hurt, and that is not the motivation behind this, it is simply, like Glenn put it, to raise the standards to what they used to be. Because it benefits no one here to have that continue, in fact it might drive people away.
Your opinion is welcome, and I hope other members, especially those who are very active in the club and have been here the longest, voice their opinions as well. If everyone thinks that I am wrong in pointing this out and attempting to improve this place by having people show a bit more respect, then fine, let the insults fly, have fun with it.
For the record, if my sarcastic remarks have offended anyone here or insulted them, I apologise. That was not the intent.
Can we all just grow up now?

 

[Fantom]

Sass, in relation to your comments on the other thread, you've been here all of 5 minutes, just bought yourself a nice Land Cruiser and are welcome as a member if you wish it to be, but considering the fact that you know very few people here personally, you do not have the "seniority" to be throwing jabs back and forth at people you don't know.
This community is a bit different than most clubs, it is made up of people who are friends as well as wheelers. Even though it may not have appeard that way from our posts each member here respects the others, we rely on each other's experience and wisdom when we wheel and often times we work together or socialize outside of the club. It's a bit more of a family atmosphere than most clubs. which is one of the many reasons why I enjoy being a member of it.
So now if I walked into your house, and started making sarcastic remarks at you wife and critizing here cooking, when she doesn't know me, you'd likely punch my lights out. How is this any different?
Show up to a meeting, let some people get to know you, come wheeling, let us see who you are so things don't get misinterpreted. It's not about being sensitive, s*** I don't care if you tell me to f&%k off on here, just saying there no benefit to it and it does not make this place any better.

 

[Dangil]

It's a fine line between friendly banter and trolling/getting brave without reprisal. I've always appreciated the different tone of our forum vs BC4x4, but it's easy to see how it can get to the point where anonymous posters are shooting off left, right and center Unless you make it someones job to police the forum I think all we can do is set a good example by keeping threads on track.

I'll also say this: online, no-one is as funny as they think they are. So we won't be missing much if the jabs and burns are reduced. Save it for the meetings...

 

[Yabedude]

Like I said, I find the timing of this post completely ironic. I agree with the requested procedure but it shouldn't be prejudice against anyone. It's either no jabs or jabs. Who cares if someone is new to this forum or not. For example, what you're suggesting is that Jeff can post ribbing material but Sass can't. Last time I checked, I live in a democracy. So if this site, no this forum, is going to declare rules of engagement then they had better be fair to all forum members because the proposed rule is worse than the silly jabs.

 

[Fantom]

The reason for the timing is because of 2 reasons:
it was mentioned by another member to me in relation to another thread. I noticed it as well, because previously I didn't think much about it when people who I know for a long time did it, since we do it to each other all the time. Now when a new person joined in who does not have the same history, it put things in perspective. Maybe we are giving off the wrong message.
And this is not just for Sass, it's for eveyone, me included. So I will do my best and think twice about posting comments and remarks. His remarks didn't offend me because I really don't care. But I also don't know him enough to guess if he is trying to be funny or just being a prick. Jeff I know is making harmless, funny remarks.
Is that OK with you Chris?

 

[Deny]

I agree with Chris, it's either no jabs or jabs, new or not, becuase I can't tell who knows who, heck it seems the entire crew at the CC has done a huge switch since I moved away in 2005. As an outsider looking in, I do have to say the Lance-Sailor back door jabbing is a little awkward and if I didn't know anyone at the CC, would be hesitant to join the club if I were a newb. I do agree with Matt though it is really tough to tell if you don't know the guy if he is being serious or not. Old dudes or newbs, feel free to jab away at me, I won't be offended, but will most likely jab back Internet drama is fun, makes the boring office days go by so much better

 

[Antarctican]

I'm relatively new, and I hate you all equally

 

[Yabedude]

That's just another 4 letter word

 

[burphull]

I thought we had moderators that could look after this kind of stuff.

 

[Yabedude]

What kinda stuff? A flopper flipping out? Lol