anyone has experience with WCB's vocational rehab (1 Viewer)

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It's the ones that think they have a degree/certificate that make them think they know how to deal with the problem, that worry me. Just from experience when I shattered my arm, I have seen a bunch of physiotherapists, a chiropractor, acupuncturist and 2 registered massage therapist. Two of the physiotherapists, actually set my recovery way back. It should be a red flag when they don't ask to see your x-rays before them perform any excercise, granted that some doctors don't believe anyone other than a physican should have a need to look at them. The other professionals asked to see my x-rays, before they would do anything, and they are the ones that have helped me along. I was told by the doctors that I need to do start getting movement in my arm, or the fluid that the body produced to immobilize my arm, will harden and become scar tissue making recovery a double edge sword. If I moved my arm, I could undo the work the they had done setting the fragments together. If I don't get the muscles moving they will turn into a human cast. The doctor that set my arm, kind of broke it when he reset my arm from being straight to a 90 degree position. One of the pins came loose and there was a slight gap at one of the breaks. The first physiotherapist ended up breaking my arm by making me do excercises too early. I didn't realize I was doing any damage, because for some reason I could not feel pain and I let him know before hand. If I knew what I know now back then, I could be close to 100%. I saw my accupuncturist to help with getting some flow back into my arms, it seemed to help. It gave me an idea to buy a Dr.Ho machine to get constant therapy for most of the day, and it worked at activating the muscles to pump the thick fluid out of my arm. I used the accupuncture to get the electrodes deeper in the lower lying muscles. I should have stopped going to physio, because I was making progress and I could actually move my arm on it's own, but I didn't know better at the time, and ended up traumatizing my arm to stiffen back up after a session. When I went to visit my doctor for a check up x-ray, he told me to stop what I was doing, beause the plate in my arm was bent now, but all the other pieces healed nicely. The doctor wanted to wait a few months to see if the bone will fuse itself back together. It never did and I had to go for another surgery, and by the time had come, my body tried to protect itself by dumping scar tissue everywhere trying to immobilze it. Second surgery went well, but had to cut a lot of scar tissue out of there and making the second recovery a little harder, since there was a lot of freshly cut tissue, and had to get movement again, so the raw areas wont fuse to each other and locking my arm in place. I didn't realize it, but I was suffering from a jarring pain, when I would try to raise my arm, I went for an appointment with my massage therapist, and he had a student from the college there. When I walked in he wanted to show my arm and how it was affecting my alignment. He took a look at me and could see my right shoulder was off, and told me your shoulder is dislocated. He requested to see my x-ray, when I went for my next check up x-ray, he wanted to see how it was mending and where the screws were, since they were pointed like wood screws. It was a month and a half after the second surgery, he told me it was going to be painful, and that fibromyalgia has set in, trying to fill the void of the dislocation. He was going to have to break loose the tissue that was built up in the joint and reset my shoulder, without putting stress on the arm. He put it back in place, and yeah it did hurt a bit with the sound of tissue tearing apart, but it sure felt good to raise my arm again. I tried a different physiotherapist, from a referral of a colleague of my massage therapist, it was good and he used other techniques that didn't force my arm to reduce scar tissue build up. My massage therapist did some techniques that I could not do when I tried massaging my arm, and broken up some scar tissue, so I was able to get more mobility out of my arm. Things were going good and started to make some progress, and then it was time for my third surgery to remove the hardware. The third surgery went well, they removed the screws, but they cut some more scar tissue out, so I would have to start trying to move it asap. I went to see the physiotherapist, but he wasn't, but the head physio was, so I didn't think much of it and told him I just had surgery 3 days ago, but I was told to try an get some movement going. He starts to try and bend my arm and got a little aggressive with the therapy. After the session my arm started to swell at the elbow and by the end of the day, I had this B cup boob of fluid hanging off my elbow, he must have torn the internal stitching. I went to the hospital to see if they could drain it, but they said there was a good risk of getting an infection from doing it, and I would have to wait for it to be re-absorbed back into the body. I could feel the clotted pool of blood at the bottom of the boob, because it was getting hard compared to the rest of the boob. I had to get rid of the swelling asap or I can screw up my recovery of getting movement back in my arm. My massage therapist recommended me to see another massage therapist that does lymph node drainage, after nine sessions at $100 the swelling was down considerably, but I still had the harden lump of blood, but eventually that would get absorbed. I went back to see my regular therapist and told him what had happened , and he wasn't too pleased how the head physiotherapist handled my arm. My massage therapist was able to bend my arm without being aggressive, and let the arm bend naturally. Right now I deal with a numbness in my arm and some muscles that needs to be released, it's possible that the nerves got torn with the stitches, so I have a lack of sensation there, once in a while I make some improvements. I just need to go make an appointment with my massage therapist to see if he can still do something with this. I know better now what treatment works.
 
Getting things moving again and swelling can be a catch 22 for sure.
I broke 5 vertebrae in my lower back in Nov/09 and although i can't do any real lifting or it goes out, i still get swelling in my back.
That in turn puts pressure on nerves that were also damaged.
It doesn't get as painful as before but i take it as a sign to ease up and give it time to subside.
The nerve damage i feel all the time but it is lessened and somewhat numbed by acupuncture.
If you are not using acupuncture i recommend you try it.
 
My bro in law is a massage therapist. Does this other stuff called Somatics, it's pretty cool .
I think he calls it "sensory muscle amnesia" , continuing to compensate for old injuries that you've completely forgotten about.

Like how you'll still be limping from a sprained ankle 20 years ago, and all injuries cause you to involuntarily hunch into the fetal position a little bit, which throws your posture out.

Basically you get so used to walking with a limp and slightly hunched you don't even know you're doing it...with me he showed me I was essentially carrying one leg an inch shorter than the other. It was throwing me out of whack, one shoulder lower than the other, not to mention the fun stuff that walking with your pelvis at an angle does to your back.

He showed me a few stretches to straighten things out, and it felt utterly bizarre to walk afterwards. THey have dozens of different little exercises and stretches for all sorts of different muscle groups.


Pretty cool stuff if you can find a massage therapist who does it.
 
Yeah, I tend to catch myself babying my right arm, and my posture feels odd to me too. I got use to driving a stick with a cast on, but the way I sat in the car I had to lean over a bit to shift gears. My spine feels curved like an S.
 
first up wcb is worse than icbc . wcb cares not about pain and sufferring , nor is liable .they are responsible for wage replacement only ,if you can no longer do your job . whoever said that ,was it your occupational guy or your functional rehab guy,they should be guiding you with what jobs you are capable of doing first and foremost. they dont call it (retraining)for nothing. its not just a (uic job placement) it is retraining. so find out what jobs they will let you do .then guide yourself from there. typically they will do 2 years of schooling ,if on the higher end of the wage scale and if you are a risk of being a repeat offender. keep in mind one thing if your supposed to be so wise and smart ,you would not have hurt yourself in the first place, meaning that you need guidance . so this does not happen again. and my vote would be bcit 2 year safety officer,60 -100 a year,or can be a freelance inspector,writing protocal reports.
 
Just for entertainment, an update.
So I spoke with the guy that's handling my case last week, he still had no clue what to do with me and said he would get back to me later this week.
I've started making notes of all this correspondence and faxing them a copy. Apparently he finally read the fax (from last Thursday) and decided to get a little more in gear.
So I'll have a skills assessment I'll be doing sometime in the near future and we'll see what happens next. I think he is starting to grasp that my line of work is a little out of the ordinary, and I have slightly more skills than your average warehouse worker.
Back to "hurry up and wait"
 
While yer waiting.... I hear the Backroader is a great read! Read the current issue myself a couple of times; there's lots of good information in there; can't absorb it all the first time! :beer:

Hang in there.... you're dealing with people that have no accountability.
 
do not be fooled by the stall tackics ,they have a budget to work with whether you sit at home and they do test after test or you go to school, at least if they give an functional evaluation,and a iq exam.you will be better suited to see a direction to take . keep in mind that at this stage you do have a choice what job you wish to pursue, if you show a plan and meet the physical requirements.
 
do not be fooled by the stall tackics ,they have a budget to work with whether you sit at home and they do test after test or you go to school, at least if they give an functional evaluation,and a iq exam.you will be better suited to see a direction to take . keep in mind that at this stage you do have a choice what job you wish to pursue, if you show a plan and meet the physical requirements.

Good advice.
 
Mat I have some years of experience mentoring people who have come through that system, who are going into tech. I've seen how some make it, but many others get depressed, find it's not for them and life goes to s*** for many. It can be a struggle.

My advice to you is take WCB as a temporary "event" in your life, do not look to them for guidance on what comes next. They might try to shoehorn you into something you don't want to do, then no one wins. Take the bull by the horns, put your future into your own hands and - no matter what happens on the WCB side - try as best as you can to steer your own course for your future.

I know it sounds all lofty but I've literally seen good people end up basically on the street when they can't cope after such a setback. Assuming they will do nothing but be a drain on your soul. Get a good lawyer on your side, but spend most of your energy on what YOU want to do. You have a lot of skills!
 
Thanks guys,
I can see how someone might get depressed or discouraged during a situation like that. Which could easily make everything worse, the feeling of not being "in control" of your life and the realization that you can't do what you have been doing up till now, can be a shock. Lucky for me I'm too stubborn to be affected by that :D . I plan on making sure that I end up doing what I want, regardless of what happens with WCB, I am not going to compromise my life for any organization. I will use them, like any tool, to help me get there. They say that's what they are for, I will make them prove it to me.
I finally have an appointment next week to get my skills assessed :D this should end up being fun. We'll see what they say.
Once again, thanks guys for the info you've all shared with me and the suggestions.
 
I doubt that job will be on the table but I will push for it :D

If you need some inspiration, check out these guys. unURBAN Adventures There blog is a good read. They were through BC last year. They have done all the Americas and even did a stint in the Antarctic. There are making their way through Africa now. That's my idea of living life to the fullest. :cool:
 

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