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@seths Strongly considering the 3Fe route... been researching it on mud. it’s a matter of finding a shop or dare I say taking it on myself With a buddy (I’m no mechanic but am crafty).
Open to other opinions and options with cruiser engines. Figured out what I’m really looking for is what is still a cruiser engine but has more behind it. Not sure which would be the easiest to swap @Seth S i remember you mentioned a couple others
 
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Open to other opinions and options with cruiser engines. Figured out what I’m really looking for is what is still a cruiser engine but has more behind it. Not sure which would be the easiest to swap @Seth S i remember you mentioned a couple others
The cheapest and easiest thing you can do is fine a good used 2F engine and swap that in. Likely the smallest hit on your wallet and the least amount of time off the road. if you could find a 3FE and the harness and computer etc it would be the 2nd easiest way to go....but the 3FE is a different engine than the 2F....it benefits from much improved intake and exhaust manifold designs as well as fuel injection. However it drives differently than the 2F and power and torque are different.

the option I was suggesting was the 2FE....basically its the bottom end (block, pistons, rods etc) of the 2F and the top end (head, manifolds, efi etc) from the 3FE. The people who have done this always seem to say that this is the engine these machines should have gotten from Toyota. Its a bit of work but its all toyota parts and will still bolt up to a stock 4 or 5 speed with readily available parts that you likely have.


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I’m personally considering a 3fe swap if it turns out my 2f bottom end isn’t a “simple” fix. For me the 3fe would work well as I mostly cruise around and take non technical road trips.
 
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We’re working on one of these right now (in a 45) using the FJ Co bellhousing. It’s still a lot of work (it’s an engine swap after all), but should be a fun option over going to the dark side and yield a nice boost in power from the 2F.

With an aftermarket computer (pretty much required unless you find a manual ECM or a carb manifold), it should be 2UZ-ish in power.

I'm also surprised the 1FZ hasn't been more popular. Turbo it and you have a good combination of power with reliability, all while keeping it Toyota.
 
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I’m personally considering a 3fe swap if it turns out my 2f bottom end isn’t a “simple” fix. For me the 3fe would work well as I mostly cruise around and take non technical road trips.
I'm also surprised the 1FZ hasn't been more popular. Turbo it and you have a good combination of power with reliability, all while keeping it Toyota.
Is 1FZ more straightforward than 2uz swap? Guy at the shop thinks 2uz would be a good conversion on the 60. Weighing options though, gunna keep looking at threads
 
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Is 1FZ more straightforward than 2uz swap? Guy at the shop thinks 2uz would be a good conversion on the 60. Weighing options though, gunna keep looking at threads
Also anyone have a pulse on the 2F market and what a good price would be for one And it’s tranny that needs a rebuild (239k miles). Looking to sell mine as I plan the swap next week
 

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Would 1FZ be easier for manual?
It's a similar situation. Neither the 1UZ nor the 1FZ came with a manual transmission in the US. It takes some knowledge of the Toyota parts system to put together all the parts from Toyota (some are probably discontinued). FJ Company makes a bellhousing to mate a H series to the 1FZ. Dellow in Australia makes a 1UZ to H series transmission bellhousing. There are probably more options that I am not aware of, but the lack of a manual offering in the US is the achilles heel for those swaps.
 

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