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Any dissatisfied aluminum tub owners

Discussion in '40- & 55-Series Tech' started by arcadian, Jul 25, 2005.

  1. arcadian

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    I am looking at several FJ40s, trying to purchase one, some which have aluminum tubs. I have searched all the posts here about the pros and cons, so is there anyone that has a aluminum tub that wishes they had steel or sorry they chose aluminum due to problems they have had?
     
  2. hodag

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    The experience I had with a Aluminum tub was poor at best. It was a 1st gen. Aqualu tub and it was a POS. The fit and finish and welds of the tub itself looked good, but it didnt line up well.

    The main complaint of the Al tub is that no stock cruiser parts fit it. We tried early hard doors, late hard doors and neither fit. Dont even think about using a factory hardtop. Neither barn doors or ambi doors fit. We went as far as getting a Paki soft top which worked (sort of) to keep the elements out.

    The other problem is grounding, this is self explanatory. Also, you have the oxidation caused by the difference in metals (there is a name for this reaction, but I cant remember it). It causes powder to form on all the sufaces where the Al join steel.

    If you ask me, wait and find a good steel tub 40. Thats what we did and wont ever look back. Between selling the tub and Paki top we were able to get a rust free tub and hardtop.

    Hodag
     
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    look on the vedor page there is a guy making brand new steel tubs with toyota dies.
     
  4. dmaddox

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    I have a 2nd generation Aqualu tub and could not be happier. Not sure if hodag is speaking from here-say or from personal experience. Of course I have the 2nd generation, not 1st so he may be right on.

    1. My doors fit perfect.
    2. The welds are solid rock
    3. It is damn near bullet proof
    4. Fits everything like a glove.
    5. Installation was a piece of cake.
    6. Epoxy primer and good paint solve the oxidation/electrolysis
    7. I tipped my fj40 onto its side, smashed my metal door and hardtop, my tub did not even budge.
    8. Its lightweight
    9. It will not rust
    10. It is re-enforced behind tire carrier and around the corners, very very durable.

    11-100. It kicks ass, fits perfect, does not rust, factory things fit just fine (gas tank, doors, gas emissions, etc..), and if you position yourself just right, will scratch your back too.

    Cheers,

    Ragman - proud owner of an AL tub
     
  5. kc_chevota

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    ditto love mine too
     
  6. dgangle

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    I have heard they conduct heat like a mother. YMMV.
     
  7. dmaddox

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    I used that reflectix stuff - basically looks like silver bubble wrap. I used it on the underside of the tranny hump - and undercoated the rest of the underside of the tub.

    no heat issues here.....
     
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    I have installed about 6 of the AL tubs. Sold a few others and I have one on one of my own '40s. Installed carefully ALL of the OEM parts fit fine. As do aftermarket parts meant for '40s

    Everyone has been perfectly happy with their tub and they love them. As do I.


    Mark...
     
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    I like mine too (love is such a strong word). Only part on my 77 that didn't fit the way I wanted it to was the gas tank cover and the cover over the filler neck. OTT, it has been pretty much bullet proof.
     
  10. chitown40

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    We spec this stuff on all of our fire apparatus as the bodies are aluminum and the rest of it usually steel or the like. Works real well when using mixed metals.

    http://www.vannay.com/application.html

    No way affiliated, but I used to have a can of this stuff and it works great.
     
  11. Gus

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    I'm happy with my 2nd gen Aqualu, tub, no problems yet.
     
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    I would highly recomend the aqualu tub to anyone. It has held up just fine, paint adhered well, and has been smashed into some rock aswell. The only complaint I could give would be that I spent 20 hours sanding the body for paint, which, I feel should be already done for a $4500 body. Another problem I had, though I couldn't blame Aqualu, was that the holes drilled in the firewall didn't work for my components. My Feb 79' truck was assembled with a early to 78' clutch master, steering column, and miscellaneous parts. Aside from that, the tub was a work of art.
     
  13. rusty_tlc

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    I must be dense today, what grounding problems would you have?
     
  14. dmaddox

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    electrical - a no go when grounding to the tub
    I had to run ground wires for the rear heater, rear running lights, etc...
     
  15. Mud_Guppie

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    there is always a chance of a bad installer so look at alignments of body parts

    we sell a lot of those tubs and install a lot as well and have always been happy with the construction and fit.

    My opinion on the tubs is as follows
    -they are solid
    -fit nice, but it's not just going to drop into place. You will need to install the top and doors to align everything before drilling and bolting
    -I don't ground anything to the tub anyways so grounds have never been an issue
    -It's nice to drive something that is way quieter
    -I'm making plans to install a tub on my FJ40
    -I've used the FJ45 parts as well and been very happy (buy my 1965 SWB FJ45!!!!)
    - A customer had the misfortune of hitting a tree at hi speed. His cowl was destroyed and he damaged a lot of parts, he could have been killed but he had a pile of horse shoes and a lot of luck
    His tub was perfect! and went on his rebuild
    -heat issues could be a problem I guess but that's what mats are for. I dare you to touch my floor while I'm on the highway!

    I highly recommend the second gen tubs especially if the install work is already done!

    We're doing an install right now, if you would like any detailed pics of areas of concern on those Cruisers let me know and I'll help you out
     
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    Great Product

    I have the 2nd gen Aqula tube and could not be happier. If you are getting a 79+ tube you may want to get rid of the mounting plates that cover the cowl, tub joint they are a little mickey mouse. Hit me a PM if you want to see how I did it.
    MJM

    I have the video for installation if you want it just PM me and for shipping it is yours.
    MJM
     
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    I didnt mean to piss in anyones Wheaties, but my experience was with a first gen Aqualu tub. From what Ive heard and read here, it sounds like they have addressed the problems of the first generation. Im glad they got better because the one we had was a headache.

    I still vote for a steel tub, if you can find one. Id be interested to see the repro steels.

    Hodag
     
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    Easy fix (and it makes for clean wiring):
    Install a ground bus somewhere in the cab (mine was under the drivers seat), gound it to the frame and run your individual grounds to it.

    You get a better ground and convienient access to all of your grounds if you have a suspected problem in the future.
     
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    Currenlty running a Gen I tub on my 81 and fit seems to be great, no problems with door alignment other than having to put a spacer in between strike plate and the tub. No signs of electrolosis. As for the body work, I am timid to greing the welds down for a smooth finish in paint....butthen again this is a non original cruiser....and why should i worry about a perect finish.... :rolleyes:
     
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    To bad we couldn't all order some of the tubs from panama all at once to get a good deal on shipping. Then you get a new steel body. I would want steel because if I ever wanted to weld to the body for what ever reason, I could do that. I dont have a set up for aluminum and even if I did, Al could warp more. as for grounds running extra wire wouldn't be bad at all. Steel rusts so many times you can't get a good ground anyway. I think the best part about Alu tubs is that you know it wont rust. I hate the coast. sorry I had to add that. cheers