'97 Diesel for JDM (1 Viewer)

[ForealBoreal]

LANDCRUISER 1HDT 6CYL TURBO DIESEL ENGINE (RHD) - Vancouver Engine, Engine Parts For Sale - Kijiji Vancouver

Don't know the KMS or condition its in but I am sure you could get the setup for 7500 bucks. Lshobie is selling a 1hz,h55f, trans combo for $7500 bucks and that would be a smarter call IMO. He got it from Dave at Japan 4x4

As for hdj81s it really all depends what your after. a 10 grand truck for sale here in canada WILL NEED WORK. it will probably be bone stock too. For a really nice one out of japan expect to pay about 12 grand in japan then shipping taxes and all that buisness and it adds up quick.
I know someone who just did one with a lift and lockers same shape as mine and he paid 18 to get it registered. He now needs to change fluids, BEBs, tires and anything else that needs changing.
Really depends on what kind of shape, kms and options.... There great trucks and they are highly desirable, just people don't want to spend 20 grand on them. They think the 10 grand one will do everything. But they are in for a shocker.

 

[Vanisljoe]

18 is more like it. For a nice one. I still think 12 is lowballing it. Even on that site you linked earlier.

My buddy just got a MINT showroom condition 2F FJ60 for $12500. Lifted it 4'' for a grand. That engine above would be a sweet swap for him.

 

[lshobie]

My price dropped to 6500cdn.

I was going to buy a 1HDt for my HZJ79, but ultimately decided against it, parts for the 1HZ are very easy to get here - heck we can buy a new 1HZ here (read $$$$$$$) if we really needed one. So if something goes on my 1HZ I can have the parts to my door in a day and back on the road easy peasy. You can also buy a 1HZ with higher kms and running time and be assured it will keep on going.

The 1HDT, well as farm as I am concerned it is a good engine but when something goes you are looking at huge $$$, just the injection pump rebuild costs are 3500+, injectors way more than the 1HZ etc etc. Rebuild costs on the 1HZ pump are 700-1200 depending on what it needs. And not knowing how the 1HDT has been treated is a big factor - abuse on that engine is a bad thing that will rack up the dollars, whereas the 1HZ can be abused all day long (actually they are in the mines) and they just keep going.

Made my decision pretty simple.

 

[ForealBoreal]

18 is more like it. For a nice one. I still think 12 is lowballing it. Even on that site you linked earlier.

My buddy just got a MINT showroom condition 2F FJ60 for $12500. Lifted it 4'' for a grand. That engine above would be a sweet swap for him.

I am open to offers on my truck if anyone is interested...

My price dropped to 6500cdn.

I was going to buy a 1HDt for my HZJ79, but ultimately decided against it, parts for the 1HZ are very easy to get here - heck we can buy a new 1HZ here (read $$$$$$$) if we really needed one. So if something goes on my 1HZ I can have the parts to my door in a day and back on the road easy peasy. You can also buy a 1HZ with higher kms and running time and be assured it will keep on going.

The 1HDT, well as farm as I am concerned it is a good engine but when something goes you are looking at huge $$$, just the injection pump rebuild costs are 3500+, injectors way more than the 1HZ etc etc. Rebuild costs on the 1HZ pump are 700-1200 depending on what it needs. And not knowing how the 1HDT has been treated is a big factor - abuse on that engine is a bad thing that will rack up the dollars, whereas the 1HZ can be abused all day long (actually they are in the mines) and they just keep going.

Made my decision pretty simple.

I am pretty stoked to get a 1hz. Still tossing up the idea of turboing and intercooling it though... I am worried its going to decrease the life of the engine....

 

[lshobie]

I am open to offers on my truck if anyone is interested...




I am pretty stoked to get a 1hz. Still tossing up the idea of turboing and intercooling it though... I am worried its going to decrease the life of the engine....

I'm running 15 psi and a water/air intercooler, I never go over 1000 degrees and have never had a problem. That being said - from all the research I have done the life is shortened, ie, earlier rebuild at 250-300k kms rather than 500k kms. To me that is well worth the fun - and near equivalent to a 1hdt before some work needs to be done. In most cases with the 1HZ it is the pre-cups that are cracked, mostly in australia where people drive like mad in brutal conditions and hot weather - and maybe towing as well.

Louis

 

[aamiggia]

The 1HDT, well as farm as I am concerned it is a good engine but when something goes you are looking at huge $$$, just the injection pump rebuild costs are 3500+, injectors way more than the 1HZ etc etc.

Injector pump rebuilds are not that much. 1HZ is slow as molases. A turbo upgrade on a 1HZ is very pricey even with you build it yourself.

Enlighten me how you can get parts for a 1HZ easier than a 1HD. AFAIK the 1HZ was never sold in Canada even for mining trucks. There is a place in AB (4Wheel) and BC (Rocky Mountain Import) that normally stock parts for all Land Cruisers.

 

[lshobie]

Injector pump rebuilds are not that much. 1HZ is slow as molases. A turbo upgrade on a 1HZ is very pricey even with you build it yourself.

Enlighten me how you can get parts for a 1HZ easier than a 1HD. AFAIK the 1HZ was never sold in Canada even for mining trucks. There is a place in AB (4Wheel) and BC (Rocky Mountain Import) that normally stock parts for all Land Cruisers.

Wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong.

The 1HZ is used in the mine trucks, have been from 1990 until now - I can get any 1HZ engine part delivered to my house the next day - and from multiple sources, not used, not take off - new in box. Not so with 1HDT parts.

Have you rebuilt a 1HDT pump? One that needs a complete rebuild is very pricey. A turbo upgrade on a 1HZ DIY is 1000-1500, a kit is 2500 - try replacing a turbo on the 1HDT, you might be able to get one rebuilt for 1500.

I'll put my 1HZ beside a 1HDT any day

You need to do some homework.

 

[Dougal]

Why is an HD-T pump dearer to rebuild than a 1HZ pump? Other than the boost compensator I'd expect them to be essentially the same thing.

 

[lshobie]

Because I can send my 1HZ pump to a mining company with loads of them on the shelf, not so with the 1HDT pump - ask the poor lads that need to get them rebuilt what they cost in BC. I can get a pump with all new inards and tuned for 1200cdn, or get a moderately used pump rebuilt for about 800 with only the needed parts replaced - maybe less.

 

[Tapage]

I'll put my 1HZ beside a 1HDT any day

let's do it ..

 

[lshobie]

let's do it ..

Oh YA!!!!

 

[ForealBoreal]

my money is on Lewis.
Water to air intercooled turbo 1hz running 15psi? vs Tapage's beast of an 80

 

[Vanisljoe]

Because I can send my 1HZ pump to a mining company with loads of them on the shelf, not so with the 1HDT pump - ask the poor lads that need to get them rebuilt what they cost in BC. I can get a pump with all new inards and tuned for 1200cdn, or get a moderately used pump rebuilt for about 800 with only the needed parts replaced - maybe less.

I'm not sure why you have such a hate on for the 1HDT.

However, according to Radd Cruisers where I get all my work done there isn't much that can go wrong with them. The specialists that know the engine love it.

You maybe don't realize that the 1HDT 80 series is used world wide in the harshest condtions imaginable.

Also, there are a TON of aftermarket parts available next day if you wish and I've never had a problem getting a part. There are at least 3 companies around like aamiggia said that stock anything you could need.

Better off going with the factory built powerhouse 1HDT and never look back.

 

[aamiggia]

I think the hate on 1HD-T is that he doesn't have one and has 1HD-T envy.

Anyone who knows a thing about turbo engines (not just 1HD-T) knows that a factory built turbo engine has better and stronger built to bottom end compared to the NA version.

I will admit that I stand corrected about the mine trucks with a HZ engine. So I guess you live in minig country where you can go down the street to get parts. Lucky you

The 2 places I listed above can do next day shipping from BC to anywhere in Canada and yes, I'm in the middle of having my injector pump rebuilt. I'll post some pics of the receipts once it's done.

 

[lshobie]

LOL, I'm in Ottawa - not that far from you. One phone call to ENS industrial or several other companies in Ontario or Quebec and you get the parts the next day.

1HDT envy? Did you read my previous posts? I have owned 1HDT's, 1HZ's 1PZ's, 13BT's, 3B's and out of them all I like the 1HZ - especially for the parts availability. You like your 1HDT that is great, I do like the idea of direct injection don't get me wrong - but I love the 1HZ!

And to correct you again, the 1HDT and the 1HZ have the same bottom end - same crank, same bearings etc etc, the head, pistons and rods are different (and a few other things), the 1HZ head precups are what fails when adding boost and heat, so yes I do know what the limitations and weaknesses are. That being said I can get a new head in a day if I want one - try that with a 1HDT

I think the hate on 1HD-T is that he doesn't have one and has 1HD-T envy.

Anyone who knows a thing about turbo engines (not just 1HD-T) knows that a factory built turbo engine has better and stronger built to bottom end compared to the NA version.

I will admit that I stand corrected about the mine trucks with a HZ engine. So I guess you live in minig country where you can go down the street to get parts. Lucky you

The 2 places I listed above can do next day shipping from BC to anywhere in Canada and yes, I'm in the middle of having my injector pump rebuilt. I'll post some pics of the receipts once it's done.

 

[lshobie]

Oh, and Aamigia, I hope you changed out your BEB bearings when you got your truck - or I hope they were changed out before you got it, if not I'd look into it.

 

[Stone]

Lol...I'm pretty sure lshobie knows his stuff. I wouldn't hold his love of an IDI engine against him.

 

[lshobie]

Lol...I'm pretty sure lshobie knows his stuff. I wouldn't hold his love of an IDI engine against him.

Honestly, if I put 25-40K kms on my truck a year, and I had good local parts availabity I would have a 1HDT in my truck, for me it boils down to economics and the ability to get my truck on the road in a few short days if something goes wrong. Just like I'd like to put the H151 tranny behind the 1HDT but - try finding that tranny - and try rebuilding it here. I can buy the r151 out of the box here from the mining companies as well. Although I am going to rebuild my first r151 in the next couple of weeks - looks pretty simple!

One other concern I have is the number of 1HDT's that have spun bearings or just taken a big s*** here in canada, seems that they the reported kms might be a little off from Japan - as we all know.

I am not stuck on the 1HZ and I don't think it is better - just the best choice for canada as far as I am concerned - oh and I just found another engine for cheap up north! Gotta love how quiet the 1HZ is though, sounds great I'm following a 1HZ water/air laminova intercooler build - that might be my next project next year.

 

[Tapage]

my money is on Lewis.
Water to air intercooled turbo 1hz running 15psi? vs Tapage's beast of an 80

 

[ForealBoreal]

I am a little confused on what that is on your intake