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80-series Made in China

Discussion in '80-Series Tech' started by 97 FZJ80, Mar 1, 2004.

  1. 97 FZJ80

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    Thats pretty awesome.

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    is it a Toyota?
     
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    According to the link Landpimp posted, those Chinese Land Cruisers are being made by a joint venture between a Chinese company and Toyota. They just started production in Nov 2003.

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    Yep. They are Toyota JV with the local auto manufacturer.
     
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    Rear end...
     
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    Flexing... ::)
     
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    On one of the photographs, after enhancing, you can clearly see that these are SFA.

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    [glow=black,2,2]For Immediate Release
    April 9, 2003


    FAW, TMC Agree to Jointly Produce 4 Models in China


    Tokyo—CHINA FAW GROUP CORPORATION (FAW) and TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION (TMC), at a signing ceremony in Tokyo attended by FAW President Zhu Yanfeng, TMC President Fujio Cho and other company officials, agreed today to jointly produce four different Toyota-brand vehicle models in China.

    This development follows a basic agreement signed by FAW and TMC on Aug. 29 at the People's Congress Hall in Beijing to establish strategic and long-term collaborative ties regarding automotive operations in China. To be able to jointly produce and sell vehicles on a scale of 300,000 to 400,000 vehicles a year by 2010, the two companies decided in the basic agreement to center their efforts on three types of vehicles: medium/large-class luxury sedans, small passenger cars and medium/large-class luxury SUVs. Today's signing represents a more specific agreement between FAW and TMC regarding joint production and technology transfer.

    The four vehicle models to be produced are: the Crown, in the medium/large-class luxury sedan category; the Corolla, in the small passenger car category and which is being positioned in response to the rapidly expanding Chinese market; and the Land Cruiser and Land Cruiser Prado, in the medium/large-class luxury SUV category.

    Through their cooperative efforts, FAW and TMC aim to contribute as much as possible to the further development of China's automotive industry.

    Details of planned production are as follows:

    Crown
    Start of production Spring of 2005
    Annual production 50,000 units (initially)
    Production plant Second plant of Tianjin Toyota Motor Co., Ltd. (to be newly built)
    Plant Location Tianjin Economic-Technological Development Area in Tianjin, China
    Plant Site area Approximately 1.55 million square meters


    Corolla
    Start of production Spring of 2004
    Annual production 30,000 units (initially)
    Production plant Tianjin Toyota Motor Co., Ltd. (on the same line as the VIOS)


    Land Cruiser
    Start of production By the end of 2003
    Annual production 10,000 units (initially)
    Production plant Chang Chun Plant of China FAW Group Corporation


    Land Cruiser Prado
    Start of production By the end of 2003
    Annual production 5,000 units (initially)
    Production plant Sichuan Toyota Motor Co., Ltd.


    Copyright 2003 Toyota Motor Corporation. All Rights Reserved.

    The information in this release speaks as of the date issued. Toyota Motor Corporation does not, does not intend to, and expressly disclaims any duty to, update or correct such information.

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    where's asia mike when you need him?

    why the "golden lion" emblem?

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    this last part is a FACT, Toyota USA refuses to correct the HUGE mistakes in there LAnd Cruiser history they email people. the info is VERY VERY wrong. At one point they say in 91 the LAnd Cruiser got a fully indepented suspension. Not to mention the BIG errors in the early Land Cruiser history..........which I can PROVE with the Cruisers I own.

    Toyota USA SUCKS!

    John H

    [quote author=T Y L E R link=board=2;threadid=12376;start=msg113408#msg113408
    The information in this release speaks as of the date issued. Toyota Motor Corporation does not, does not intend to, and expressly disclaims any duty to, update or correct such information.

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    [quote author=Landpimp link=board=2;threadid=12376;start=msg113439#msg113439 date=1078191245]

    Toyota USA SUCKS!

    John H
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    Well, then, F 'em!! :flipoff2:
     
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    [quote author=erics_bruiser link=board=2;threadid=12376;start=msg113435#msg113435 date=1078190850]
    why the "golden lion" emblem?

    e
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    I'm probably wrong, but my guess is that because that's the name of the vehicle (instead of Land Cruiser).

    It's a shame Toyota didn't want to give up the right to "Climax of 4WD" phrase. :D

    mot
     
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    Gold/golden is the color of royalty and the lion is a mystic symbol.

    It's interesting to note that the Chinese version of the website stated that the Golden Lion has "parallel arms (double arms)" independent front suspension.

    John
     
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    they prolly mean the controll arms........they are parellel ;)

    [quote author=97 FZJ80 link=board=2;threadid=12376;start=msg113565#msg113565 date=1078200873]
    Gold/golden is the color of royalty and the lion is a mystic symbol.

    It's interesting to note that the Chinese version of the website stated that the Golden Lion has "parallel arms (double arms)" independent front suspension.

    John
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    I believe the chassis are the same between 100 and 80 series so they are interchangeable. This chinese 80 series are possible to have independent front suspension. Although from the picture you could see the lower control arm bracket.
     
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    I don't think this 80 is actually in production for the following reason:

    1. The 2.4l 4G64 S4M Gas (petrol) engine is the same one found in North America Mitsubishi Galant. I serious doubt that it has sufficient power to pull a 5000 lbs SUV

    2. I noticed that this is the only 80 to show up on their website anywhere (probably a handbuilt prototype). Their other webpages only shows the Surf/4Runner

    3. 80-series can be bought in China for a reasonable price (~US$80k). Before you spill your breakfast cookies over the price, it includes the 100+% import tariff on automobiles.

    4. Anyone who can afford a luxuary SUV would not want to be saddled with this anemic engine. A D-C Jeep Cherokee and Grand Cherokee can be had from Beijing Jeep (BJ) for a a very competitive price. Most 80 I've seen in China are FZFE powered.

    5. The 80 still rules in some parts of China, especially the rural areas. If they have the $$$ and need a luxuary vehicle to get around the flooding/unpaved road/sandstorm, they usually have an 80 as a second/foul weather car to their M-B S class.

    I'll be in China in two weeks for bitness - I might call these guys up to see if they actually have a "demo" car that I can drive. I wonder if there is a market in the US for 80-series hard parts?


    John
     
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    [quote author=Augie link=board=2;threadid=12376;start=msg113682#msg113682 date=1078225590]
    I believe the chassis are the same between 100 and 80 series so they are interchangeable...
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    Beg to disagree. They are quite different, with the IFS'ed 100-series having a narrower front than the 80-series.
     
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    Well I stand corrected then. The frame might be different but usually manufacturer like to share as much parts as possible between product lines. Especially on model variant like 100-105 series. If this chinese 80 series comes with IFS it does not make any sense to make all new frame on it. Although from the picture it definetly have SFA from the bracket and wheel offset.