50,000+ miles on Icons (1 Viewer)

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yep, I've put these through some good and rough miles and they've taken it like a porn Star.

So, you'll notice there's CDCV on all four and two of which are piggy backed (the rears)....that means these puppies are some of the few (for LC200's) before the change was made to remote the resi's, which honestly was a great move on Icons part.

Next You'll see on one pic that the top section of the piggy back is marred. Like Jaws from moonraker or the spy who loved me tried to make out with my piggy. These things were a PITA to get positioned correctly to where no contact would take place during compression (frame and piggy back).
The marring is from a failed position.
Rough learning curve.

Another downside to piggybacks is trying to adjust a dial that's on top of the resi and that's pointing due north, as in facing the belly of your rig. For this task I found Reverse camera mode on iPhone or grab your daughters little Barbie mirror and try to catch a glimps of which setting you're currently on and what you'd like to move to.

Those are really the only negatives I can speak of as everything else has been wonderful. The ride, the ability to
Tune your ride, the confidence in knowing I have great gear.

Why are they off my truck? I felt it was time to take advantage of the cold winter season and have my icons rebuilt. As per the Icon rebuild mileage table I'm there, mileage wise, and for the environments in which I drive and play in.

What Icon is doing: revalving to my current vehicle weight. Not all springs and valve jobs can support your build fresh off the shelf. You gotta use them, identify short comings, speak with the techs, learn and test the suspension. This is my first nice Offroad suspension system and I have learned that once you add weight, you could possibly surpass the intended set up.

For those that don't know, The CDCV is an external tunable resi that one can adjust for payloads or desired ride feel. My dail settings (1-10 or S-H) were not all agreeable with what I expected after I bolted on mass weight. The truth is I enjoyed messing around and tuning before I added bumpers, rack, winch, spare 35, sliders, Twinkies. With just my 35's and nothing else it was excellent. I killed my ride!!!! or at least the breadth of adjustments.

Icon states that setting 4 is basically a great balance point, which was true, but not now. Setting 4 for me is like riding a blob. So, I migrated to and stayed between settings 8-H or 8-10. I like a firm ride. And anything less feels just sloppy with the way I have my truck set up and how I like my vehicle to react.

Fact finding:
I called Christo and he directed me to a contact at Icon. Dylan is Icons R&D guy, a cruiser guy and an engineer.
So the ball was rolling now.
Per Icons instructions I found a local place that was willing and able to "weigh my rig". I called a metal recycler and they were happy let me drive on their scale (one axle at a time) to help me for free.

My findings:
Front axle = 3600 lbs
Rear axle = 3280 lbs
My trucks curb weight Total = 6880
Stock curb weight = 5690 lbs
That's a phat pig

I had a feeling I was pushing it a bit and that feeling was confirmed.

What's gonna happen?
Dylan is going to instruct his team to put an aggressive valve job on these shocks allowing a full breadth of 1-10 to be all mine again, add Eibach #700 front coils which are a heavier rate coil and should mate nicely with the rear OME2723's, change the rear piggybacks to remotes, new fluids, seals, new spanner nuts, because I managed to mangled those something bad during an adjustment, oh and new stickers!

These are beat up on the outside but still functioning on the inside and tough as hell, as designed I'm sure.

It's not cheap, I don't mind that and I'm having fun so hopefully someone learns from my journey thus far, that's why I'm sharing. Buy good stuff, from a good manufacturer, rely on good support, learn and move on.

Expected down time is around 15 days. I will update once I'm back on the road.

Typed on an iPhone. Pardon my mistakes, I Think you know what I mean.

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Nice write up on the icon's.
I just ordered an Icon stage 5 setup for my Diesel Colorado.
This is my first real venture into full aftermarket suspension system.

I gues I did a have a Raptor that had Fox shocks, but it was all an OE long travel setup on the Raptor.

Not quite sure what to expect, hope it all works well on the Colorado. Glad to here others reporting on how well built the Icon product is.
 
The bodies actually look pretty good for 50k+ miles! What does Slee think about Icon btw? I will be taking my 200 to them soon for sliders and skids, and I am looking to potentially upgrade my OME setup. I've lifted a lot of my vehicles in the past, but I've never tried anything besides OME, AEV and Rubicon Express (long time ago). I'm curious about the higher end brands.
 
@mcgaskins - Christo said it was a nice system but Slee didn't sell / stock that brand at that time and so he linked me directly with Dylan @ Icon.

I purchased this set up through trdparts4u.com outta Texas. I never thought to call them, probably should have but I like to hear Christos ideas so that was my first outreach for help.
 
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Wow. It looks like they took some VERY deep wounds there, but they held up. Nice.
Agreed, it's a ugly wound. Good thing it hides under my truck and is stout enough to afford my learning curve
 
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I'll be interested to see your feedback once they're redone..... I'm loving my stage 5's but agree that as I added drawers, dual batts rack and winch bumper etc I found the need to go from 2-4 to 6-8...... lower if offroad but it moves me to the top of the range... I have the Tundra front coilovers and they seem to handle it well, it's more in the rear that I'm noticing it....

Dylan is awesome to work with - he helped me do a sc'ed 4runner build back when it was Donahoe.... he really got that truck dialed without ever seeing it.

Cheers

E
 
Do you mind sharing the rebuild cost?
 
Yep it's in the site link above. Front coils are around $200. They'll call me once my shocks have been received and reviewed with a $ total of what they deem necessary. I'll need to approve or or adjust and then wait for the shipment back.
 
Thanks! Not as bad as I was expecting.
 
Minor update - My shocks were taken off my truck, cleaned up and picked up by UPS on Wednesday 1-4-17. They hit the road on 1-5-17 via UPS ground select and Icon received them in Riverside CA by 11:02 am on Monday 1-9-17. I got the phone call yesterday 1-10-17 from Icon that the shocks were ready, heres what we did and here's what that cost (they hooked me up - thank you guys - love it) and here's your shipping options. I should have them back by Monday 1-16-17. Not bad at all folks...Icon does NOT messing around! Like I said this is my first time doing something like this and its been smooth thus far.

Within less than a full business day in their possession the Icon service department did the following:
turned the rear CDCV piggy backs into remote resi CDCV's (2)
revalved the fronts and rears with a more aggressive valve job
put on the front shocks two new Icon Tundra coils, rated at 700 lbs vs the rated 600 lbs coils that the coilovers originally came with
new fluids / seals / new pistons - anything more I wont know until I look at the build of materials list
and finally new stickers to make'em pretty again - they said my spanner nuts (mentioned in my first post) were fine as is and still functional so those were not replaced. I did get a new spanner wrench though.

I plan on having my rig back on the road by Tuesday 17th or Wednesday 18th of next week. So all in all I was on point with my 15 day timeline guesstimate. If you live closer then you cut that even shorter. Shipping was the biggest time suck in this transaction. I could have expedited them but due to the weight I choose not to....might spend that savings on a new grill and an expensive ass Toyota emblem...is there gold in there?

Shipping Ground is fine for me in this case considering UPS main hub is based in Louisville. Icon uses FEDEX so we'll see how good their timelines holdup for the return trip home.

I'll update this post with my take on the ride quality and anything else I notice once the truck is put back together and been beat on a bit.
I did not mention earlier that I took this opportunity to replace most of the hardware up front including bolts, nuts, bushings, newer LCA's (thanks to @RS6tofj80) and sway bar end links while it was torn down. I bought this truck out of Northern Mass and some of the hardware had rust on it. Nothing worse than getting into a project and having hardware break with little to no inventory in the states. @beno received a nice order and fulfilled it in a timely manor. What a great guy / vendor to have support from. I received my care package from @beno with token (s) of kindness hidden in the packaging, a sticker, a Toyota beanie hat and a mini Toyota screw driver!
thanks for reading
 
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Minor update - My shocks were taken off my truck, cleaned up and picked up by UPS on Wednesday 1-4-17. They hit the road on 1-5-17 via UPS ground select and Icon received them in Riverside CA by 11:02 am on Monday 1-9-17. I got the phone call yesterday 1-10-17 from Icon that the shocks were ready, heres what we did and here's what that cost (they hooked me up - thank you guys - love it) and here's your shipping options. I should have them back by Monday 1-16-17. Not bad at all folks...Icon does NOT messing around! Like I said this is my first time doing something like this and its been smooth thus far.

Within less than a full business day in their possession the Icon service department did the following:
turned the rear CDCV piggy backs into remote resi CDCV's (2)
revalved the fronts and rears with a more aggressive valve job
put on the front shocks two new Icon Tundra coils, rated at 700 lbs vs the rated 600 lbs coils that the coilovers originally came with
new fluids / seals / new pistons - anything more I wont know until I look at the build of materials list
and finally new stickers to make'em pretty again - they said my spanner nuts (mentioned in my first post) were fine as is and still functional so those were not replaced. I did get a new spanner wrench though.

I plan on having my rig back on the road by Tuesday 17th or Wednesday 18th of next week. So all in all I was on point with my 15 day timeline guesstimate. If you live closer then you cut that even shorter. Shipping was the biggest time suck in this transaction. I could have expedited them but due to the weight I choose not to....might spend that savings on a new grill and an expensive ass Toyota emblem...is there gold in there?

Shipping Ground is fine for me in this case considering UPS main hub is based in Louisville. Icon uses FEDEX so we'll see how good their timelines holdup for the return trip home.

I'll update this post with my take on the ride quality and anything else I notice once the truck is put back together and been beat on a bit.
I did not mention earlier that I took this opportunity to replace most of the hardware up front including bolts, nuts, bushings, newer LCA's (thanks to @RS6tofj80) and sway bar end links while it was torn down. I bought this truck out of Northern Mass and some of the hardware had rust on it. Nothing worse than getting into a project and having hardware break with little to no inventory in the states. @beno received a nice order and fulfilled it in a timely manor. What a great guy / vendor to have support from. I received my care package from @beno with token (s) of kindness hidden in the packaging, a sticker, a Toyota beanie hat and a mini Toyota screw driver!
thanks for reading

Thanx for posting your experience. 50,000 miles between rebuilds sounds reasonable, especially for the prices listed. Really sounds like ICON has their s#!t together.

Looking forward to hearing your feedback on the updated valving. I am very tempted to get back into the high-end shock game based on your experience, as well as the lack of negative reports on the ICONs.
 
Very Encouraging - and supports the investment many of us have made..... I'm on my 3rd set of Icons.

hope Fedex is quick - I know what it's like not having your baby....

E
 
The initial new purchase is not cheap by any means, however rebuilding is a low cost option for what you get, a refurbished killer set up. Beats the pants off anything else for the money on the second time around.
 
How much did your LCAs run? I know some folks have been using the Tundra LCAs, are these they or just newer LC ones?
 
Very Encouraging - and supports the investment many of us have made..... I'm on my 3rd set of Icons.

hope Fedex is quick - I know what it's like not having your baby....

E
Third set? What's the story?
 
How much did your LCAs run? I know some folks have been using the Tundra LCAs, are these they or just newer LC ones?
No these are LC200 LCA's, just in better cosmetic shape than mine are- @RS6tofj80 went the way of the tundra conversion and offered his LCA's up to the masses so I happily took that offer knowing I was going to rebuild / replace most of my front end hardware anyhow.
 
Ah! Didn't know if there was a redesign on the later 200 models.
 
Ah! Didn't know if there was a redesign on the later 200 models.
No, no difference between them. We cut my old LCA's off as the cam bolts were frozen thus rendering future adjustments a non option. I was going to be looking for replacements anyhow.
 

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