3B fan Clutch
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mallred said:
I think it is called a fluid coupling assembly. part number 16210-56040.
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mallred said:
The fan is NOT the same as 2F fan maybe same diameter but clutch on 2F is larger than on 3B. Do you require a clutch fan? Reason I ask is I sell solid fan replacements if you are interested, I disasseble clutch fan modify it and weld it so it is no longer a clutch fan. PM me if you are interested.
You can also buy fluid and replace the fluid in your clutch and that should also fix it, you should also get new O ring once you remove the old one it will usually not fit correctly again.
Cheers,
Michael
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tlcruiserman said:
When I started seraching local for parts I mentioned rebuilding it and the only parts store in town thought I was crazy as they had never heard of it.
Thanks guys, I have printed and will show them in the morning.
Myrle
if i am reading this right then the fan is "firm" i.e. solid, you can not turn by hand the fan part...
if you can turn the fan easily by hand then you need the fluid to make the turn when required...
can you let me know which one of above it is?
if you can turn the fan easily by hand then you need the fluid to make the turn when required...
can you let me know which one of above it is?
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crushers said:
The fan does turn about the same warm and cold, by firm I was meaning that there is no slop in the fan it does not wiggle front to back at all but I can stop the fan very easly by hand when at ideal and up past halfway on the guage. It had been running in the lower quarter up intil this last heat wave. It is now running back where it was since it tied the fan to the clutch with some nylon string.
Fluid should be here tommorow, Thanks guys.
I rebuilt mine, it's not hard. I doubt I would do it again though. I have a hard time believing that the part is discontinued....
Also there are different viscosities of oem oil.
Call ENS and see if they have one.
Also there are different viscosities of oem oil.
Call ENS and see if they have one.
I replaced mine thinking the problem is the fan clutch, but the prtoblem happened to be the radiator. I ordered on from Hilltop Toyota (20%) discount.since it wasn't available in US. Let me know if you need thir phone number.
Alex
Alex
FJota said:
Its some kind of silicon but thinner than the sealant stuff in the tube.
Most of them engage at about 30-40klm
There are 24v fans but I would keep what you got.
What you save on direct power will be sapped by more resistance in the alternator.
No such thing as a free lunch
mallred said:
Aftermarket fixed fan is somewhat of a pain, you have to match it to the pump, and make sure the blades are the correct diameter to fit inside the shrowd. I have learned this in the past and decided to turn the clutch fan into a fix fan. If you are intrested I offer fixed fan clutch replacements, so everything stays the same, water pump, plastic fan, just a new clutch part that looks the same but is solid with no free spinning. here is my old website with details if you are interested. I sell about 2 of these a month.
http://westcoastcruisers.org/WCCproducts.html
As I said this is old website so if you are interested send email to tlcruiserman@westcoastcruisers.com
Cheers,
Michael
Speaking of Clutch fans, in particular on the 3B, here is what happened to me a few weeks ago.
I had just finished some minor repairs on my 86 BJ70 (AXT Trubo, lift with 33" tires, and stock 3.7 gears) I was driving home from my shop, and coming down a large grade (low EGT's low temps, etc) I stopped at a shop and and left the engine running, when I got back in a minute or so later I noticed the temp had jumped from 185f to 200f, I started driving and it jumped up to 2.05f, and then went back down to about 195f, thought maybe a fan clutch problem, but not that big of a deal (original fan clutch, my only 3b left with a fan clutch). Took the truck back out to shop the next weekend, and when I hit the large grade going up the temp consistantly went up, even when I nursed it up the hill with hardly any boost and low egts, it just kept going up, it settled at 210f and would not go much below that, so lets say for the next 20 minutes of driving no matter what I did it would fluctuate between 205 - 220f, once I got to shop I cooled down the engine and proceded to change the clutch fan with one of my solid clutch fans. after that all was well runs between 180 and 190 again. I guess I mention the story because the clutch fan can go, in an instant and when it does, there is more involved that just getting some airflow through the front of the Cruiser, it can act very strange, I felt pretty helpless.
What I notice that is probably very consistant with a 3B clutch fan going, is the temperature will steadily climb over time, and the engine can not recover very well from those temp jumps. I think the only thing that makes it worse, is if you get to a point when you blowing radiator fluid out fo the overflow, you problems just get worse if that happens.
I can tell you that with all the temps that I encountered with this, the head was safe and no cracks (I think this is one of th newer hi nickel heads).
Cheers,
Michael
I had just finished some minor repairs on my 86 BJ70 (AXT Trubo, lift with 33" tires, and stock 3.7 gears) I was driving home from my shop, and coming down a large grade (low EGT's low temps, etc) I stopped at a shop and and left the engine running, when I got back in a minute or so later I noticed the temp had jumped from 185f to 200f, I started driving and it jumped up to 2.05f, and then went back down to about 195f, thought maybe a fan clutch problem, but not that big of a deal (original fan clutch, my only 3b left with a fan clutch). Took the truck back out to shop the next weekend, and when I hit the large grade going up the temp consistantly went up, even when I nursed it up the hill with hardly any boost and low egts, it just kept going up, it settled at 210f and would not go much below that, so lets say for the next 20 minutes of driving no matter what I did it would fluctuate between 205 - 220f, once I got to shop I cooled down the engine and proceded to change the clutch fan with one of my solid clutch fans. after that all was well runs between 180 and 190 again. I guess I mention the story because the clutch fan can go, in an instant and when it does, there is more involved that just getting some airflow through the front of the Cruiser, it can act very strange, I felt pretty helpless.
What I notice that is probably very consistant with a 3B clutch fan going, is the temperature will steadily climb over time, and the engine can not recover very well from those temp jumps. I think the only thing that makes it worse, is if you get to a point when you blowing radiator fluid out fo the overflow, you problems just get worse if that happens.
I can tell you that with all the temps that I encountered with this, the head was safe and no cracks (I think this is one of th newer hi nickel heads).
Cheers,
Michael
wesintl said:
I can get brand new 3B clutches, they are not from toyota but a third party company that makes most of the replacement clutch fans for OZ. The price of these has been going up, because the demand and inventory is going down. I have not bought and stocked these because I do not see much depend for 3B clutch fans, however if there is a moderate interest I will stocks some. I will post what I could sell them for, in another post.
Cheers,
Michael