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30 Days -Minimum Wage

Discussion in 'Chit-Chat' started by DenverCruiser, Jul 19, 2005.

  1. DenverCruiser

    DenverCruiser

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    I thought this was in interesting show.
    Things that stood out to me:
    I thought it was interesting that they had to put deposits down on energy (most likiely because of where they were living).
    I thought he was very careless with his money and it was harder on him than it would be for many others

    What were all your thoughts on the show.
     
  2. beno

    beno Gihee Arakawa Moderator GOLD Star

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    If you want to read an interesting and rather controversal book about this topic, author Barbara Ehrenrich spent I believe either 6 months to 1 year living on minimum wage...very disturbing book..."Nickel and Dimed: On (not) getting by in America" (2001)

    http://www.nickelanddimed.net/

    Or, you can come to my house in Akron and see how I string together 3-6 minimum wage jobs (including graduate school.. :rolleyes: ) to survive...

    :flipoff2:

    -o-
     
  3. swank60

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    I thought it was pretty interesting. I only saw the last 15 minutes of it, and there were things he did that you wouldn't do if you were pulling down minimum wage - like going to the hospital for something minor. Both of them did that. Most folks without insurance would just go without and be done with it.

    He did make some good points though. How he wound up having to take cab after the birthday dinner basically destroyed their budget. His synopsis was very good, too. That living on minimum wage is a bitch. They were working multiple jobs, no kids, etc and even though they didn't have to adjust for scale (moneywise) it still sucks.

    Glad I'm not having to make it on minimum wage, but I know those who do. It's pretty comical, that someone, somewhere, actually thinks that people can live on - what is it? - $5.50 an hour?
     
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    my parents raised five kids on minimum wage. mom sure knows how to stretch a buck.
     
  5. Liam

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    or work a corner.... :flipoff2: :grinpimp: :D
     
  6. Deep South Cruisers

    Deep South Cruisers 1978 FJ40 ~ 283 V8

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    My grandfather raised 6 on a teachers salary in Alabama.
     
  7. NorCalDoug

    NorCalDoug problems solved daily...

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    I caught the episode a few weeks ago when it first came out.
    I thought it was very enlightening, but I'll agree with others who've stated that he did a few things that a person who truly lives on minimum wage (as opposed to someone who's trying it out for a month) would not have done.

    The ER visit, for example. I wouldn't have paid that bill. Hell, I wouldn't have gone in the first place. What I would've done, if I had to be seen would've been to take a day off work (losing $50) and visited the free clinic. That would've saved the several hundred dollar ER visit.
    His wife's visit was justified...urinary tract infections would require treatment...but again, free clinic time. Pick up a job where you'd get more than a few dollars a day in tips...or would that have violated the rules?

    All in all, however, I found it interesting and well produced. It reminds me that I don't want to be working at minimum wage again...been there...done that...

    I caught another episode where they took a hardcore, macho, religious guy and had him live with a gay guy in San Francisco's Castro district for a month. That was good too. In the end, the guy came out of the experience with an appreciation for and a better understanding of gays -- or at least that's what he said at the end of the show...
     
  8. TX_TLC

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    Both my parents were teachers...dad was the lowest paid teacher in the country in 1975...$3200 a year...Wow..



    I am Blessed.
     
  9. patride71

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    i thought it was pretty good. he was a wuss to go to the ER for his wrist though....

    it is crazy that minimum wage is still the same after 8 years or so....
     
  10. gulp3000

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    If the minimum wage is raised to say...$10.00 an hour, then the folks currently making $10/hr will be looking for $15-$20, the folks making $15 will obviously be looking for $20-$30 and the employer will be looking to at least keep their current profit margin.

    The market, with guidance from a few labor laws is the best tool for determining the minimum and maximum wage a service is worth.
     
  11. PolterGeist

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    It's a sad state of affairs, but many do. If you look at the emergency room where I work/study, a good portion of the people there are there for basic medical needs that should be getting handled at their regular family doc. But they don't have one, cause they used to, but they couldn't pay the bills, so now that doctor won't see them.

    Instead they come to the ER cause they know by law they cannot be turned down. It may take them 8 hours to get seen, as gunshots, car crashes, heart attacks, strokes, etc all take priority, ane we're the largest best equipped trauma center in the area, so we keep pretty busy...

    Odd thing is, that by the time they do come, many times the little problem that they should have gone to a family practice for has gotten to the point where it almost is an emergency...

    THey come, rack up a $600 ER visit, and either let it go into collections where they MAYBE pay $5 a month on it for the next 20 years, or the hospital writes it off and charges it to the state.

    So yeah, $600 for a diagnosis and a handful of whatever free samples we can scrounge up for them since they cant afford to have an RX filled... Happens everyday.

    We get entire families of Illegal aliens who show up at the ER... They pack up all the kids with a list of problems and show up. And of course, they pick the University of Wisconsin Medical Center-- one of the best and most expensive hospitals in the country.... You'd think since they have no intention of paying the bills, they could at least settle for St. Mary's or something... Hell, many people who live here and have insurance, their insurance doesn't cover UW, except for referrals to specialists....

    Steve
     
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    Oh, and Switzerland's Minimum wage is like $18 an hour. They're what-- the wealthiest per capita country in the world. Or second wealthiest??? Highest standard of living, etc...

    Steve
     
  13. Josie'sLandCruiser

    Josie'sLandCruiser Stop calling it a "FJ."

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    Hi All:

    Thanks for the "voo-doo" economics lesson, "Gulp3000."

    Keyes himself knew that the market, left to its own devices, would leave all sorts of inequalities in society. Letting the absolute dollar cost of something be the final decision-maker almost always leads to a poor decision being made.

    Regards,

    Alan
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    "gulp3000" wrote:

    If the minimum wage is raised to say...$10.00 an hour, then the folks currently making $10/hr will be looking for $15-$20, the folks making $15 will obviously be looking for $20-$30 and the employer will be looking to at least keep their current profit margin.

    The market, with guidance from a few labor laws is the best tool for determining the minimum and maximum wage a service is worth.
     
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    As a teacher unless you plan on teaching at the college level the way to go as far as benefits and pay is the federal system (military bases, etc).

    With your undergrad, masters, and 6th year plus 25+ tenure you can make ~80 a year.
     
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    Nickeled and Dimed is a good book, had to read it for my US History since 1877 class, interesting stuff on there. I only make 10 bucks an hour, but I really don't have many expences, and I'm in college, so its not too bad.
     
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    Common arguement against the minimum wage: Those working at minimum wage are often kids rather than folks who have to live off of it. I live in one of the lowest cost areas of the country and still never see a head of house hold working for minimum wage. So, while a min wage raises the costs of the employer it does nothing to benefit society but instead raises prices of goods and services paid for by the heads of households. The extra coin earned by the teenager working for minimum wage is blown of high flow Honda exhausts and not to put food on the table.
     
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