285's - Cooper ST Maxx or Goodyear Duratracs?

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Bought a OME 2.5" heavy all around lift.
Going to go with 285's...

Which tire would you get?
 
I pulled my hair out about this (started a Maxx thread in Tire & Wheel Tech). I would have gone Coopers just to be different.

However, I ended up going a bit more conservative with Toyo AT2 Extreme...no complaints so far. I also had 17" rims so I got 285/75/17 which is about 34". (most 285's are 285/70 in 17" rims).
 
I have had a set of duratrac's on one of my landcruisers for about three years. Great multi-use tire, drove across the US twice on them, good highway behavior, have had them off road, worked great, and best snow tire I have ever had, bar none. Reportedly have weak sidewalls so may not be the best choice in areas where you have a lot of sharp rocks or other objects that can penetrate the sidewall, but I have not experienced this myself. Other tire you may want to also consider is Toyo AT II.
 
I have had a set of duratrac's on one of my landcruisers for about three years. Great multi-use tire, drove across the US twice on them, good highway behavior, have had them off road, worked great, and best snow tire I have ever had, bar none. Reportedly have weak sidewalls so may not be the best choice in areas where you have a lot of sharp rocks or other objects that can penetrate the sidewall, but I have not experienced this myself. Other tire you may want to also consider is Toyo AT II.

I am worried about the sidewalls too. I actually emailed Goodyear directly to ask if the 285/75/16 Load Range E had two or three ply sidewalls, the response I got back was it is a three ply sidewall. That at least puts a little bit of confidence back into the Duratracs for me.

The ST Maxx looks like an awesome tire. It is pretty heavy at 61lbs a tire, (Duratrac at 54lbs). One of my major concerns is wet road/snow plowed roads. The duratracs have so much siping there is no way anything is going to beat that. But the ST Maxx has one major sipe per lug and they use silica in the compound so I am not sure if that evens the playing field any or not.

So the ST Maxx has more rolling mass and might do worse in the rain and snow plowed roads. Those are my major concerns. Both of which are pretty important to me if I am putting down over $1k for tires.
 
Another data point:

A local mudder has 285 DTs and they do fantastic on the snow/ice. However, they're prone to punctures and I think he lost two tires. He also had a bit of a time trying to get Discount Tires to balance them. They're just not quite right according to John.

Not related to your question but just another data point: I've had a set of 315 Nitto TG since '09 and have yet to balance them or get a flat. However, I do zero mud wheeling. My TGs are made in the USA and I'm going to buy another set shortly...once I sell another kidney.
 
Another data point:

A local mudder has 285 DTs and they do fantastic on the snow/ice. However, they're prone to punctures and I think he lost two tires. He also had a bit of a time trying to get Discount Tires to balance them. They're just not quite right according to John.

Not related to your question but just another data point: I've had a set of 315 Nitto TG since '09 and have yet to balance them or get a flat. However, I do zero mud wheeling. My TGs are made in the USA and I'm going to buy another set shortly...once I sell another kidney.

I'm close to trying ST Maxx...no one around me carries them in stock. It would be nice to try some new tire design...the duratracs have been around awhile. Soooo tempting
 
I stick with Discount Tires for all of my tire needs so if they don't carry them in stock, I won't buy them. If I did destroy a tire, I'd have a replacement within a day so that's my priority. YMMV.
 
I have duratracs on my '11 f250 with diesel. The weak sidewall I personally think was from under inflation. I have 285 st maxx's on my 96 80 and I haven't been in deep snow but they have been great in mud, gravel and dirt. Highway noise is ok. Duratrac's have 25k and they are shot. Rotate them often.
 
Can't speak to the ST MAXX but I have considered giving them a shot, but I am leaning towards the Duratracs again. I had a set of 315/75/17 on my 2500 suburban and they were the best all around road/light offroad tire I have ever had. Puts the Terra Grapplers, BFG KO's, and Dick Cepek FCII's to shame. The only ones to get longer life were the Terra Grapplers but they were less than adequate offroad for me. The FCII's literally fell apart after 35k miles with about a 1/4" of tread left. The duratracs were rotated every 5k and had 40k on em when I sold the truck, still had enough tread to where the new owner didn't mention it as a bargaining chip against the $20k asking price. Interested to hear if you get the Maxx's and how you like em.
 
Ordered them from Discount Tires, had them in 2 days!

I pulled the trigger and bought the ST Maxx! Very excited to get them all mounted up. Plan is to install the OME 2.5" full heavy lift this weekend and get the tires mounted/balanced and alignment.
I will report back with how I like them

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I like that tread pattern, post up how you like them once you get some miles on them. Doesn't look like they have 315's though.
 
I like that tread pattern, post up how you like them once you get some miles on them. Doesn't look like they have 315's though.
They do have 315s... I have a set & Lovem!!! They are a true hybrid tire.
 
I've had 315 ST Maxx on for 5 months now and wheeled them about 5 times. They've been fantastic. Even did surprisingly well in the local clay on a wet but not raining day.
 
I've had 315 ST Maxx on for 5 months now and wheeled them about 5 times. They've been fantastic. Even did surprisingly well in the local clay on a wet but not raining day.
They did great in the mud! Hopefully you can test them again at the Christmas party :)

IMG_9149 by Jonathan Jones, on Flickr
 
I have. Last year we got a ton of snow in CT. They did great. I've been very happy with the ST Maxx in the rain, snow and what little off road I've done. My buddy was happy with his Duratracs too. They're both good tires.
 

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