SOLD UPDATE: Going to BaT: 2013 200 Series - St. Louis, Missouri (1 Viewer)

Year

2013

Vehicle Model

1. 200 Series

Location

St. Louis, Missouri United States

Mileage

103200

Color

White

Recently upgraded to an equally well maintained and babied 2015 w half the mileage, so unfortunately this girl has to go. 2nd Owner ( I purchased 1 yr ago at 75,900mi as a local dealer trade in.) I've ordered a Rivian R1S and expected it to come faster. I bought this to have a second car as I transition over to the Rivian, but its taking too long so have been looking for a 2013-2015 (my favorite years) with lower miles and found one.

As nice as can be found for a 10 yr old vehicle (11/12 manufacture date), clean carfax (which I can share), all stock except for 2016+ wheel upgrade. Everything works and works well. No vibrations, no rust, no abuse, and I don't think its ever been off road or anyone has even sat in the 3rd row seats. Turns heads and gets constant compliments even before people realize its darn near 10 yrs old!

 

[VWEeplusa]

engine bay and under carriage:

 

[VWEeplusa]

Instrument panel, Navigation Screen, 3rd Row, and Roof:

 

[VWEeplusa]

Front, Rear views + the only 3 minor boo boos on the car (at tow cover plate, rear passenger side bumper, driver's seat. All were present when I purchased)

 

[ageslurkin]

Thanks for great pictures, lots of attention to detail. Super clean, wondering if you'll get someone looking to mod and offroad or just keep this on in mint condition. Your garage is a dream filled with cruisers. GLWS.

 

[Vunje]

Any chance you want to sell the 100 in your garage?

 

[VWEeplusa]

Yes. I’m willing to sell the 100.

2005
172k mi
Recent Work:
New refinished OEM wheels
New BFG A/T’s
New OME 2” lift
Line-X bumpers and trim w Toyota paint color match.
Paint correction + ceramic coating
Krown Coating at under carriage
Refinished leather upholstery
New heater hose T’s
Timing belt changed at 137k

Hit me with a PM and I’ll share pics and full carfax report.

Thanks.

Any chance you want to sell the 100 in your garage?

 

[Justdoit]

What an immaculate truck. Just by a quick look it is priced well, within an excellent condition range which I believe it is. Kudos for keeping it in such a great condition.

 

[smoothcruiser]

What an immaculate truck. Just by a quick look it is priced well, within an excellent condition range which I believe it is. Kudos for keeping it in such a great condition.

If this truck was truly immaculate, it would be sold already. "Immaculate" is an exaggeration used in the classifieds here too often. Merriam Webste Dictionary defintion of "immaculate" is: 1 : spotlessly clean an immaculate kitchen immaculate uniforms · 2 : having or containing no flaw or error an immaculate record of service in immaculate detail.

It's nearly impossible for a vehicle with 92,000 miles to be truly immaculate and by the photos and description, this one isn't. Even though seller called it immaculate at one point, they also point out the flaw in driver's seat and others. Also, carfax does not show regular oil change intervals at less than 10K miles.

 

[VWEeplusa]

John
I am at a loss for why you go out of your way to sit down and take the time to not only thumb through the dictionary for definitions, but would attack me like that. We had a nice long conversation about our mutual passion for Land Cruisers, the condition of the car, and what my position on pricing and selling is. I enjoyed the discussion, so this comes as a surprise and a disappointment.

I also felt I diplomatically and politely made it clear I have had multiple offers close to my asking price, but was of the mindset that if I didn’t get my price for it, I was more than glad keeping it.

You asked about me getting the oil tested, which, considering the vehicle has had throughout its life an average interval between oil changes of 7,335 mi combined with the care + light duty its had its entire life and issue free experience I have had with it I found that to be an unnecessary task. I maintain my vehicles with a passion and check fluids and parts regularly between service. In my opinion and experience, that interval is more than reasonable and is backed up by several threads on here in addition to my historical discussions with mechanics, etc. (Crazily enough, with my X5 and RR Sport I purchased new, BMW and Land Rover recommended 13-15,000 mi intervals between service. I certainly never went that far with those two cars, — averaged 7,500 intervals on them too — because they aren’t Land Cruisers and both have a history of burning oil between 50 and 100K mi.)

‘Damned if I do and damned if I don’t’ on the 3 minor imperfections. No way as a seller I want someone to purchase something from me and find that I didn’t disclose even the most minuscule of known imperfections. Same way with why I like to make sure I have the carfax report paid for and available so no one has to pay for that themselves. The imperfections are so minor, however, I made sure to take detailed hi-def large photos to share.

All that said, if you’re not interested at my price, you don’t have to make an offer. I respect the luxury of your position, and yet on my side, I have the luxury to be in a position to not have to sell unless I get the price I want.

I see grossly overpriced, used, and abused examples of Land Cruisers available all over the web. I don’t spend my time chastising them for their wording or passing judgment on a vehicle I’ve not gotten to see first hand. Now, if I drive something, and it doesn’t match the listing, I will certainly consider pointing that out as a public service announcement. But you aren’t in that position here to pass the level of judgment you are attempting, having never seen it in person or driven it.

Your attack makes no sense in a community based forum such as this. Its disappointing and frustrating.

If this truck was truly immaculate, it would be sold already. "Immaculate" is an exaggeration used in the classifieds here too often. Merriam Webste Dictionary defintion of "immaculate" is: 1 : spotlessly clean an immaculate kitchen immaculate uniforms · 2 : having or containing no flaw or error an immaculate record of service in immaculate detail.

It's nearly impossible for a vehicle with 92,000 miles to be truly immaculate and by the photos and description, this one isn't. Even though seller called it immaculate at one point, they also point out the flaw in driver's seat and others. Also, carfax does not show regular oil change intervals at less than 10K miles.

 

[Justdoit]

If this truck was truly immaculate, it would be sold already. "Immaculate" is an exaggeration used in the classifieds here too often. Merriam Webste Dictionary defintion of "immaculate" is: 1 : spotlessly clean an immaculate kitchen immaculate uniforms · 2 : having or containing no flaw or error an immaculate record of service in immaculate detail.

It's nearly impossible for a vehicle with 92,000 miles to be truly immaculate and by the photos and description, this one isn't. Even though seller called it immaculate at one point, they also point out the flaw in driver's seat and others. Also, carfax does not show regular oil change intervals at less than 10K miles.

Well, you just crushed my theory if interior /outside looks good likely maintenance was likely good too. Haven't seen carfax myself though, was really just commenting on the looks and look at the underbody - pristine! Few imperfections in my opinion when overall car look great is neglectable and balances things out - especially if you look at other listings here and the web and where on the book value condition scale do they position their asking price.

If the car within budget, for me this one is not, next step is analyzing maintenance history, do your homework of course.

 

[shane431]

"Synthetic oil frequently should be changed every 7,500 - 10,000 miles. Toyota endorses getting your 2013 Toyota Land Cruiser oil & filter changed every 3,000-5,000 miles for conventional oil"

Seems to me the guy changed his oil within Toyota recommended schedule. Not sure why someone is crapping on your thread. Good luck with your sale. It appears to me you've shown the vehicle very accurately with great photos and descriptions!

My gut is telling me that this is a nice LC!

 

[firepuglife]

Miles, year, condition, maintenance, literally dictate the price of this cruiser, it’s priced right. What the hell is going on here in this thread lol.
Clearly

VWEeplusa​

loves and is very particular of hisToyota/Lexus vehicles and I don’t see him buying and selling a bad one.

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[VWEeplusa]

Thanks guys for coming to my defense. I'm still just flabbergasted at how that went down.

Please note the rig is no longer for sale. I am taking it off the market.

I marked it SOLD so there's no confusion.

Thanks everyone.

 

[smoothcruiser]

My hope is that the classified threads here aim to be objective as possible. Nice, beautiful, excellent condition, well taken of, priced right, etc., are not synonyms for immaculate. In most cases, immaculate vehicles bring higher prices. Oil change intervals are debatable and the carfax shows intervals that went beyond 10K. From what I've read and heard, that's not ideal. The driver's seat has had a tear, which was missing in the Craigslist ad description. IMO, that's not immaculate. It's nothing personal.

 

[krice118]

Sheesh. Well handled OP. There are alot of opinions on here. goodness. if you dont like the price move on.

 

[VWEeplusa]

I know I am pissing up a rope here, and its only real intent is providing catharsis for me, but its laughable to claim this is simply terminology semantics.

You know I disclosed completely to you that I had it both here on MUD and craigslist. You also know craigslist only allows so many photos. I also referred craigslist folks here and vice versa. There is NOTHING to hide about this car, the care it received / receives, etc. I went out of my way to tell you as much about the history of the car as I could, as deeply into the weeds as I could get, as I had done my research on the original owner and knew what kind of driving it got. You seemed appreciative.

For whatever reason, 1 week later you felt like you wanted to poke the bear. Why you didn't do that in our 30 min call is beyond me. You were as cordial and conversational as I was, and we enjoyed our common bond related to Land Cruisers. That was the time to say something to me regarding your concern about one little word.

If the original owner went slightly over 10K one time on an oil change interval, then shame on them, but holy crap, even that's not really a big deal considering the type of driving suburban St Louis affords. Not to mention, you really have no idea if there was an oil change in between there. I know my Toyota specialist here doesn't record his repairs and service in a manner they show up on carfax reports. I have no idea why that is, either. I also know there are things I take my vehicles to the Toyota dealer for, and things I take them to the independent specialist, and occasionally an oil change is in there too if the timing falls that way.

Hilariously and Ironically enough, your consistency regarding terminological accuracy seems to be lacking! You attempted to frame the fully disclosed repair to the drivers seat a 'tear' with the implication it still existed even though I told you it was there before I purchased, obviously had been professionally repaired, had held up well, and that I stayed on top of it and the leather seats with the color matched dye that I have on hand, but felt it was important to disclose. You seemed appreciative of all that info at the time.

Look, you're free to disagree w anyone on here, just as I am free and enthusiastic about disagreeing w you right now, but the notion of going out of your way to try to do harm to someone's reputation or potential for sale is beyond the pale unless you have proof, direct evidence, etc. And if it is indeed over the semantics of one single word, then that makes it even s***tier of you considering you haven't been within 1000 miles of this car to assess whether 'immaculate' or 'mint' or 'near mint' or whatever is indeed correct.

I hate this kind of public airing of disagreements. its embarrassing for all involved, but you are attempting to impact my honesty and integrity over one word and I gotta defend myself. It's completely ridiculous.

My hope is that the classified threads here aim to be objective as possible. Nice, beautiful, excellent condition, well taken of, priced right, etc., are not synonyms for immaculate. In most cases, immaculate vehicles bring higher prices. Oil change intervals are debatable and the carfax shows intervals that went beyond 10K. From what I've read and heard, that's not ideal. The driver's seat has had a tear, which was missing in the Craigslist ad description. IMO, that's not immaculate. It's nothing personal.

 

[aedgington]

My hope is that the classified threads here aim to be objective as possible. Nice, beautiful, excellent condition, well taken of, priced right, etc., are not synonyms for immaculate. In most cases, immaculate vehicles bring higher prices. Oil change intervals are debatable and the carfax shows intervals that went beyond 10K. From what I've read and heard, that's not ideal. The driver's seat has had a tear, which was missing in the Craigslist ad description. IMO, that's not immaculate. It's nothing personal.

If we're really going to be pedantic about semantics, he didn't actually say the truck was immaculate. He said he bought another one that was 'equally immaculate'. That's not the same thing.

As someone who has been a professional buyer of vehicles for 15 years, yes, the word is overused. It's common for people to equate 'great shape for it's age' as 'immaculate', or things that were 'like that when (I) bought it' somehow being immaterial to the current condition.

That being said? The seller has included high resolution photos and even focused on some of the imperfections. It doesn't get any more 'objective' than that. It's not a verbal/sight unseen sale/bid based on the sole word 'immaculate', so to focus on that is simply boorish and reeks of sour grapes that you didn't buy it.

 

[Supra Turbo]

This is highly subjective, immaculate to some may not be so to others when it comes to used vehicles. I would also describe this vehicle as immaculate based on its age, miles and being tan interior, which typically shows more wear.

In either case, one shouldn't be buying a vehicle based solely on words, especially a used one. Not to mention that the US is built on immigrants and quite a few won't even know the differences in terminology between excellent, great, immaculate, mint, etc.

 

[tacoduck]

My hope is that the classified threads here aim to be objective as possible. Nice, beautiful, excellent condition, well taken of, priced right, etc., are not synonyms for immaculate. In most cases, immaculate vehicles bring higher prices. Oil change intervals are debatable and the carfax shows intervals that went beyond 10K. From what I've read and heard, that's not ideal. The driver's seat has had a tear, which was missing in the Craigslist ad description. IMO, that's not immaculate. It's nothing personal.

You are wrong and out of line. Seller sets the price. If buyers don’t agree, the car doesn’t sell. You spent 30 minutes of the sellers time talking shop, decide not to buy, and then crap all over the sellers thread. Move along.

Op, truck looks fantastic, and I envy your stable of cruisers. I run my truck at 10k oci, and have been for years. Clearly, your vehicles are well taken care of.