Builds 2008 LX Live Camera Car and Overlanding Build. (3 Viewers)
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Dang it Grinchy, i typed it out and deleted this:
"I'm not ready for a 37" Tundra front end conversion yet, maybe with the ground up rebuild/future restoration project." when talking about coming to Mud to push boundaries XD.
This set of tires is a balance between now and then, and 35" and spacers means I can be driving legally by end of next week.
But slowly and surely, we will get there! I want to test Portal Axles on smaller scale first, as there are "stability concerns" when going that high without going wider.
So my 100% Replica 1/10 scale All-metal SCX10 LX570 will also have a portal axles option:
Like you said Boss, why stop there?
Because we still need to use her to get to work for now, and can't afford to take her out of commission for a nice, long build.
Depending on your definition of normal use. IMO, it's not drivable and will rip up the tread and fenders.
I'm a big fan of @MTKID 's direction rather than bracket lifts. Or more inline with what Monica and Canguru racing. Overall lower center of gravity as it keeps the chassis lower. Bracket lifts are a strange animal in my mind as they don't really create clearance under the axles. but lift everything higher. Yes, this can help angles to a degree. Perhaps difference is whether the focus is more on rock crawling?
If I were to take my car to the next level, and believe me I've been pondering. Maybe after I get a Cybertruck and can modify the LX more to toy status, but still keeping all of its great usability:
1) 37s
2) 1" body lift
3) +25 offset
4) 4.88
I struggle and think maybe long travel and Tundra arms are the right solution at that aggressiveness level. Scrub radius then requires pushing out the tires even further than the track width increase of the Tundra arms. Then the cascading need to match rear axle width, which would take a huge ~2" spacer. Or is the right answer to graft in a Tundra rear axle too? Then is 1" body lift enough and would still need to cut a bit of the fender lips. Then all the aesthetic considerations and fender flares?
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Normal use means just using her to get to and from work (legally, she wont pass inspection right now due to tire tread), until she has what she needs to tackle the trails. Normal use = pavement and very wide turns if needed, like I'm driving with trailer attached. I was planning on babying her while she's on 35s and awaiting surgery; slow on throttle until regear, wide & slow turns until BMC. I am aware that my speedometer will be a little off until a proper re-gear, and I am okay with salvage yard hunting for tundra gears.
Focus is not for rock crawling, as I still want a balance between on and off road; after all that is the beauty of an LX. However, I do not want to get left behind whenever I make it to a LCDC/mud meet either.
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Have you ever considered a set of portal axles and going slightly wider/longer axles and much bigger/wider tires?
That is the path i am going down, but i plan on starting small scale with a 1/10 scale to a 1/5th scale replica, and testing it out in the Remote Control realm.
Isn't that every man's dream? I remember the Russian LCs on portals taking on brutal tracks in youtube.
If I'm being realistic, it's a niche tool for rock crawlers or extreme rigs. They have limitations to running at freeway speeds, maintenance, and play as the suspension arm geometries aren't built for loads that far projected from stock.
Don't let my reality stop you though. Would love to see such a build
If I'm being realistic, it's a niche tool for rock crawlers or extreme rigs. They have limitations to running at freeway speeds, maintenance, and play as the suspension arm geometries aren't built for loads that far projected from stock.
Don't let my reality stop you though. Would love to see such a build
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Ok so I checked all local shops and ATD (where many get their tires from) are sold out of all 35x12.5r20 in all brands, except for 5 Toyo ATs; I only need 4 for now (nowhere to put that size spare yet).
Not saying I am limited to only Toyo, but this brings up the point about reliability: if I am struggling to find 1 set locally now, how much harder would it be to find one if it blows on the trail/side of road? I drive a Toyota because I can travel anywhere, including outside of US, and get replacement parts as needed. If a Baja Boss blows on the trails, even in the US, then I will end up stuck with 2 different tire types for a bit.
So back to the drawing board it is, and this time only pick from things that can arrive within 1 week after ordering/can be sourced by most tire shops.
Not saying I am limited to only Toyo, but this brings up the point about reliability: if I am struggling to find 1 set locally now, how much harder would it be to find one if it blows on the trail/side of road? I drive a Toyota because I can travel anywhere, including outside of US, and get replacement parts as needed. If a Baja Boss blows on the trails, even in the US, then I will end up stuck with 2 different tire types for a bit.
So back to the drawing board it is, and this time only pick from things that can arrive within 1 week after ordering/can be sourced by most tire shops.
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Most of the rest of the world 4x4 are on 15 or 16" rims. Even now in lots of the parts of the world it is hard to get 17" tires. If you want to be world compatible your best choice that will fit the 200 is a 17" rim. And then you want to cap it at 33" tire MAX, probably better off with 32" tires, as then you could run it with an unmatched 31" or 33" if you had to.
My bet is you'll wear out whatever 35" on 20 you choose now before your truck finds a container to be shipped about in, and if not, maybe you'd leave the 35" on 20 in the US and refit to a world compatible tire size at that time. I agree, you won't likely find a 35" on 20 common many places globally.
My bet is you'll wear out whatever 35" on 20 you choose now before your truck finds a container to be shipped about in, and if not, maybe you'd leave the 35" on 20 in the US and refit to a world compatible tire size at that time. I agree, you won't likely find a 35" on 20 common many places globally.
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I think that's honestly the best route. Go all out in US/dream tires, and swap, if needed, when i leave for my travels. I could even keep it and swap for a fresh set when i get to the Philippines or Vietnam (my birth country and also where much of the world's tires/rubber comes from).
So i have just another slight curveball, but i look at it as blessing in Disguise.
What rear bumper are we getting? Kaymar? @TRAIL TAILOR ?
Reason i ask is because i got rear ended on the highway on the way home; my guess is i got hit at about 50-60mph when i was at a complete stop. I was car #4 in a pileup, and i was the first car to stop in time. 10 seconds after i stopped some lady on her phone slammed right into me. I have my Hitch thing attached, so i imagine that saved me from taking much more damage.
Will take pictures and access damage/deal with insurance tomorrow.
LX is fine though, mechanically speaking... drove right off after i got the police report, but other car (honda civic) is scattered across 3 lanes. Driver is fine but expressed shoulder pains (insurance things). My phone was dead so no pictures, but maybe it will end up in the news since it was like 10 cars involved.
Was a little funny when the officer was accessing damage and asked if she needs a tow and i told him a firm no, he was looking back and forth like damn... barely scratched versus the other car being totalled. I am literally driving a hybrid tank, even the impact itself wasn't that bad from the inside. No airbag deployment.
So i'll take care of the tires, i really want those damn Baja Boss @ 35x12.5r20 now so let's settle it at that and get her rear-end sorted out. There is a warehouse/major tire wholesaler 1 hour from me (parrish tires) so i will see if they can source it for me for a good price. I know their google reviews suck but they are legit and warranty is covered by manufacturer anyways, and they have best prices i have found. Just find a listing on their ebay and offer them 15-20% less for local pickup, ask to pass along ebay fees and shipping fees as savings for you.
I was planning on re-gearing to tundra gears when i add front and rear bumpers later this year, but this pushes that to near top priority since rear bumpers are going to be needed sooner.
Now we are adding the additional strain of the 35x12.5s, as well as weight of a heavy-duty rear bumper. Definitely time for those tundra gears.
My top question for today and tomorrow:
Which shop in NC is my best bet for properly accessing damages to a 200-series LX, and can install an Aftermarket rear bumper instead of replacing it with OEM for me?
@TRAIL TAILOR ? @OTRAMM in VA? (few hours from me).
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I'm in California.
But I refer quite a bit of work to Ryan @OTRAMM and he has never failed to deliver.
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Good to know boss.
@TRAIL TAILOR What i'll most likely end up doing is have you ship a 200 bumper to Otramm's shop. On second thought, COVID has screwed up global shipping so bad that the shipping cost and time of a Kaymar may make it not viable for me.
Feel free to share my options from you here. Thanks for your time!
@TRAIL TAILOR What i'll most likely end up doing is have you ship a 200 bumper to Otramm's shop. On second thought, COVID has screwed up global shipping so bad that the shipping cost and time of a Kaymar may make it not viable for me.
Feel free to share my options from you here. Thanks for your time!
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Glad to hear you are alright! You might be sore some tomorrow or the day after.
Sad to hear you were in an accident at all that stinks.
Good that some good might come of it!
Sad to hear you were in an accident at all that stinks.
Good that some good might come of it!
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Really really appreciate the concern brother.
But trust me, i am not trying to bragg about my hybrid tank of a vehicle, nor am i trying to play tough guy. As of right now i feel absolutely no difference in terms of back/shoulder pains/any pain.
I got hit by a honda civic, not a RAM. I literally felt like a bully... like we were playing bumper cars with fast go karts and somehow everyone else got normal cars and they gave me a tank. I am seriously concerned for anyone who slams into my car like she did, and first thing i did was went to make sure she was alright (slowly since we were mid-lane on a live highway and cars still driving by).
Again, the concern is very much appreciated, but i assure you there is no reason to worry.
Now i need to look at bumpers, and not even sure who offers a LX570 option. Care to fast track me as to what my options are?
I could not find @TRAIL TAILOR offering a 200 series option? What do you need to put one into prototype? Measurements? Design?
I can give you an exact 100% scale 3D model/measurements of my LX once i get my work station setup, as well as 3D scan a new one for you (at the dealership). Let me know if you need a donor vehicle. I can get you every measurement/a good virtual look, without needing to actually show up in CA. Heck, if you send me a copy of the 100 CAD file, i could edit it myself to fit the 200/LX. Can we make this a reality???
And i've never had to take my car in for damage assessment before; is there anyone here who has wrecked many cars or have been hit many times or just knows a thing or two, and would like to chime in with your experience? How do i pick a shop to access damages?
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Slee and Dissent native fitment for LX.
I don’t recall any others with LX off the shelf, could look at Arb. Maybe TT, but my recollection is he was looking for a car to model, do fitment on. wouldn’t hurt to check.
We spent some time a few months back trying to see if kaymar could go and it looks like one bracket would need to be fabbed, same as RLC needs.
Other folks may be more up on it. . .
I don’t recall any others with LX off the shelf, could look at Arb. Maybe TT, but my recollection is he was looking for a car to model, do fitment on. wouldn’t hurt to check.
We spent some time a few months back trying to see if kaymar could go and it looks like one bracket would need to be fabbed, same as RLC needs.
Other folks may be more up on it. . .
Victory says theirs fits a LX
Land Cruiser Rear Bumper | Strike | 200 Series & Lexus LX570 (08-21) - Victory 4x4
Offering quality steel and aluminum goods for Toyota and Lexus 4x4s.
www.victory4x4.com
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I don't know who has the power to make it happen or if they'll ever see this, but our boy @grinchy over here really deserves mod status; with just the help he's given me alone! I know if i was running a forum, the kind of people who step up to help without asking for anything in return, and who even seem to enjoy it, are exactly the type of people who are perfect for the job.Victory says theirs fits a LX
Land Cruiser Rear Bumper | Strike | 200 Series & Lexus LX570 (08-21) - Victory 4x4
Offering quality steel and aluminum goods for Toyota and Lexus 4x4s.
"I don’t recall any others with LX off the shelf, could look at Arb. Maybe TT, but my recollection is he was looking for a car to model, do fitment on. wouldn’t hurt to check."
If this is true, i only see one option. @TRAIL TAILOR any updates boss? Whatever you need from me to progress the 200/LX bumpers, consider it done. I will start the scanning process this week and work on preparing the models to be shared here, for anyone who needs things like "measurements". I can start looking for a "Babied 200" to get a better/cleaner scan as well, in both LC and LX variants, as well as Pre/Post Facelift.
I also can't help but think, "while you're in there" kind of project... maybe... maybe we can redesign the bottom hatch door? I can't help but think about how great that ATV is as a plaftorm for a "Ride-on 100% accurate Scale LC/LX, or even a 1/3rd Scale RC "toy"" build for mudders, and how nicely it would fit in the back of my LX. Remember i took out both 2nd and 3rd rows of seats.
Or do i throw that into long-term projects, when my little manufacturing business grows enough to have those kind of manufacturing equipment; might take a while if you leave it up to me.
This has to be the way.
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Please, don’t mod me. Knowing random 200 details isn’t laudable.
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Exactly what i knew you would say, and that's another reason why you're perfect for the job. When the right people do not want the job, the wrong people will end up getting it. I imagine every mod here has earned it by stepping up to help in their own way, just like you are.
But this is neither the place for this talk, i just wanted to slip it in between the tech talk; nor am i the man in charge.
I updated previous post to show what i really had in mind when going down my own manufacturing route, maybe TT can speed up the process. I don't even want credit i just want a copy for myself! I really want to park my ride-on LX inside real LX.
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Can it swing out far enough to clear a path for an ATV Ramp built into the bottom hatch door? Do you have any pictures of it without anything on it, and fully swung open, or at least 90 degrees or more?
