1KZTE swap into fj80

[Calebyfz]

Hi, I've been looking into the diesel conversion for my 92 land cruiser, I've been leaning more towards a Toyota diesel to keep it as "original" as possible, I'm curious whether anyone would know if a 1KZTE would pair up to the auto tranny I already have, or could easily be mated to it.
I'm also open to the idea of other Toyota diesel's that might work better overall to swap into it. Any suggestions or ideas are a help.

 

[LandCruisinMy93]

Short answer is RUN!!! I posed the same question in the diesel section and they would have burned me at the stake if they could have lol. I ultimately went with a 4bd2t. 1Kz-te can make the necessary power with pump mods, but is not easily adapted to an a440f, might be able to do it with the a34X series of transmissions, but you would more than likely need a trans controller. Everyone will tell you how inferior the engine is and how parts are impossible to come by etc... So long story short, most will tell you its not a great choice and to go with a 6bt or a 4bt or a 4bd1-2t.
Best of luck whichever way you go.

 

[mac]

1HD-T. Simple.

 

[Calebyfz]

Short answer is RUN!!! I posed the same question in the diesel section and they would have burned me at the stake if they could have lol. I ultimately went with a 4bd2t. 1Kz-te can make the necessary power with pump mods, but is not easily adapted to an a440f, might be able to do it with the a34X series of transmissions, but you would more than likely need a trans controller. Everyone will tell you how inferior the engine is and how parts are impossible to come by etc... So long story short, most will tell you its not a great choice and to go with a 6bt or a 4bt or a 4bd1-2t.
Best of luck whichever way you go.

After I posted this I start doing a bit of research on the motor itself, and I was finding a lot of mixed results, not the kind of good reassuring answers I was expecting for a Toyota diesel, and It also seems like that motor is more computer controlled which would make it difficult for my mostly mechanically controlled 92, I did find a few people talking about the 1HD-T (and of course MAC up there recommends it) and the ease of putting one of those in. I'm trying to avoid a different manufactured engine if it can be helped, the only non Toyota one I might consider is the gm 6.2-6.5 diesel, not my favorite but I know it's not a bad one and I've personally had really good experience with any gm made engines and I know parts are easy and cheap to find.

 

[mechanist]

My first car had an OM617 turbo. Easy to work on and not too expensive for an 18y/o pizza delivery boy. Even cheaper because the thing never broke! I'm exploring swapping one of those in. They're plentiful and I think parts are still fairly easy to source. Turbo'd and supercharged w/intercoolers, etc, can push out 300+ hp and loads of torque.

 

[Calebyfz]

1HD-T. Simple.

I did a bit of research on the 1HD-T and was impressed, I assume your running it in a 80 series? 91-92 or 93-97? And what kind of average mpg are you getting?

 

[Douglas S]

Yeah, don't do it. A friend of mine has a 1KZ-TE powered Surf and while it is nice in that platform it is no match for the weight of an 80.

1HD-T/1HD-FT is the way to go if you want a Toyota diesel in an 80-Series.

 

[inkpot]

After I posted this I start doing a bit of research on the motor itself, and I was finding a lot of mixed results, not the kind of good reassuring answers I was expecting for a Toyota diesel, and It also seems like that motor is more computer controlled which would make it difficult for my mostly mechanically controlled 92, I did find a few people talking about the 1HD-T (and of course MAC up there recommends it) and the ease of putting one of those in. I'm trying to avoid a different manufactured engine if it can be helped, the only non Toyota one I might consider is the gm 6.2-6.5 diesel, not my favorite but I know it's not a bad one and I've personally had really good experience with any gm made engines and I know parts are easy and cheap to find.

The 6.2 is pretty doggy, but the 6.5 is somewhat better. First year of 6.5 was not computer controlled IIRC. Maybe 92? Both are standard chevy small block patterns on the bell housing. JOhn

 

[maxamillion2345]

After I posted this I start doing a bit of research on the motor itself, and I was finding a lot of mixed results

Funny how that works.

not the kind of good reassuring answers I was expecting for a Toyota diesel, and It also seems like that motor is more computer controlled which would make it difficult for my mostly mechanically controlled 92, I did find a few people talking about the 1HD-T (and of course MAC up there recommends it) and the ease of putting one of those in. I'm trying to avoid a different manufactured engine if it can be helped, the only non Toyota one I might consider is the gm 6.2-6.5 diesel, not my favorite but I know it's not a bad one and I've personally had really good experience with any gm made engines and I know parts are easy and cheap to find.

You need to spend more time doing research.

Theres a reason you see 1hz, 1hd, isuzu, and cummins swaps almost exclusively. Yeah there are a handful of oddball swaps like duramax and 6.5 gm out there but... Research


In my ignorant dickish opinion someone who is considering a 6.2/6.5 GM swap doesn't know enough about diesel engines to undertake a swap like this but maybe the fact that there does exist a gm diesel 80 or several proves that I'm only partially right. Okay so I'm just busting balls here a little but really... Nothing redeeming about these engines in my opinion. Might as well run a 6.9 IDI... And there may be some truth to a correlation between knowledge and aptitude here... I see a lot of talking about swaps and far leas doing. Maybe I'm just a dick... How about the kit that several others are using its a much more plug and play affair that way.

 

[ranma21]

For sure 1hd-t or 1hd-ft. With an intercooler you are golden!!

 

[Sarmajor]

I have the 1HD-T motor factory turbo'd and aftermarket (Safari) intercooled. The only acceptable engine swap upgrade for me would be the very early 1HD-FT that still had a mechanical injector pump. Seen in same of the 70 series trucks. They are as rare as hens teeth but worth it. For you I think the 1HD-FT would be the best step especially if you have a manual transmission or the A442 auto.

 

[Calebyfz]

I have the 1HD-T motor factory turbo'd and aftermarket (Safari) intercooled. The only acceptable engine swap upgrade for me would be the very early 1HD-FT that still had a mechanical injector pump. Seen in same of the 70 series trucks. They are as rare as hens teeth but worth it. For you I think the 1HD-FT would be the best step especially if you have a manual transmission or the A442 auto.

That's what I think to, great set up! And I like the thought of a mechanical controlled engine, I have a 92 cruiser that is all mechanical with the A440, the one thing I can't find for sure is if the 1HD-T will mate up to the A440.

 

[Wheelingnoob]

That's what I think to, great set up! And I like the thought of a mechanical controlled engine, I have a 92 cruiser that is all mechanical with the A440, the one thing I can't find for sure is if the 1HD-T will mate up to the A440.

Get the A442 that is bolted to the 1HD-FE. It bolts right into you're truck. Its a better package. Or ideally get the h151 5spd for it. Just be ready to be spending north of $10k for that setup. Then all the extra bits to put it in. You will be into it for min $15k

 

[Sarmajor]

If you choose to go with the manual transmission don't forget to install the firewall brace under the dashboard for the clutch master cylinder mounting. Otherwise the clutch master cylinder will rip out of the firewall after not many thousands of miles.

 

[Dragos80]

I did a bit of research on the 1HD-T and was impressed, I assume your running it in a 80 series? 91-92 or 93-97? And what kind of average mpg are you getting?

This is so funny.
You're looking at spending North of $10k in repowering your rig and you are concerned about the the mpg?

 

[B Point]

Hey...it might break even at some point. Several decades I'm guessing..

 

[Calebyfz]

Get the A442 that is bolted to the 1HD-FE. It bolts right into you're truck. Its a better package. Or ideally get the h151 5spd for it. Just be ready to be spending north of $10k for that setup. Then all the extra bits to put it in. You will be into it for min $15k

So if I knew where to pick up the 1HD-T with a A442 attached to it for $8500 would you say that's a good deal? Has a little more miles than id like is the only down side, 162k.

 

[Sarmajor]

You don't say where you are in the world or what current transmission you have. The only problem that it can see is that the A442 is controlled by a computer. Orto from wholesale automatics has a solution to this problem in a kit.

 

[Calebyfz]

You don't say where you are in the world or what current transmission you have. The only problem that it can see is that the A442 is controlled by a computer. Orto from wholesale automatics has a solution to this problem in a kit.

Funny question actually, I am from the states, my cruiser is in the states, but I'm currently out of country for a few months. It's a 92 gas mostly mechanical, has the A440, I'd prefer keeping it as mechanical as possible but if that combo I found would slip in without much of a fuss is be down with it.

 

[Pacer]

I bolted the Mitsubishi 4d34 to the front of this transmission in my fj62. All mechanical, plenty of power. I made motor mounts, plumbed it, wired it and have been driving it for almost a year. I have less than $4k wrapped up in my diesel land cruiser.
YMMV.