1hd-ft swap qustions....

[harveya]

mmmm I thought that 1HZ engine was awsome engine .. but 1HD-T is other history ..

170 HP from Stock, you may up the bar on turbo, and catch maybe 200 HP with out propane.

But, I don't know about bolt on propane inyection kit .. ! the issue is as always $$$ hoy much you can spend in your engine to get real power ..

1HD-FTE - 200bhp from stock and even better torque, just the electronics and 24 Valves to deal with. Still a great engine through with all the reliability of the other 1H engines.

Intercooler from Australia will release another 25% power and torque and improve the economy for around 1500 bucks or there abouts.

 

[Tapage]

1HD-FTE - 200bhp from stock and even better torque, just the electronics and 24 Valves to deal with. Still a great engine through with all the reliability of the other 1H engines.

Intercooler from Australia will release another 25% power and torque and improve the economy for around 1500 bucks or there abouts.

yes .. 1HD-FTE is a real great engine .. but deal with this electronicals parts are not easy job, and this engine already has intercooler ( this is the real reazon to pas from FT to FTE and from 180 HP to + 200 )

I'm agree you can modify the turbo and put other intercooler .. but you don't that Toyota already study this all posibilities ..

 

[harveya]

yes .. 1HD-FTE is a real great engine .. but deal with this electronicals parts are not easy job, and this engine already has intercooler ( this is the real reazon to pas from FT to FTE and from 180 HP to + 200 )

I'm agree you can modify the turbo and put other intercooler .. but you don't that Toyota already study this all posibilities ..

Yep you are right, talking about the Intercooler for the 1HDT more than the 24Valve motors.

Personally I wouldn't modify the turbo, better proposition would be the intercooler and a more free flowing exhaust. The Turbo (CT20) on the 1HDT and FT engines is quite small and doesn't work to it's best capacity with the standard exhausts - can't spool up fast enough.

Problem with the standard from Toyota engines is that Toyota do a really good job of covering all the possibilities - however they have to make the engine meet a whole bunch of things, reliability (they got that one cracked on the 1H engines), emissions, evryday driveability, cost, etc etc, consequently the engines don't always produce the power or torque that they could with a few modifications.

However all that being said, I will be getting an intercooler for my 1HDT but mainly for the improved economy and reliability. I find the 1HDT more than powerful for my needs, cruises at 90mph without even breaking sweat and gets there pretty quick for a reasonably large truck to.

Won't beat a Dodge Ram pickup off the lights, but personally I don't care. I'll still be driving my Cruiser in 200K miles when some more powerful machines have broken into pieces or had new engines.

 

[Tapage]

I'm underestand and I stay totaly agree with your opinion about the releability and fuel economy etc etc .. that need to be considered by Toyota.

And off course 1HD-T is my dream .. but for now I need to take out the best benefit that I can from my modest 2H engine ..

 

[Mike S]

...However all that being said, I will be getting an intercooler for my 1HDT but mainly for the improved economy and reliability. I find the 1HDT more than powerful for my needs, cruises at 90mph without even breaking sweat and gets there pretty quick for a reasonably large truck to.

I am seriously considering a 1HD-T for my FJ60. For the reasons that you state above. My knowledge of Toyota Diesel engines is limited, so I am interested to hear about your mileage, gearing, and especially, what intercooler works well witht the 1HD-T.

Thanks for uour comments.

M

 

[Tapage]

In a good maintenance the 1HD-T engine easy get up over 300 Km, the only cons are the timing belt vs gears in 2H, 2H-T and B series engines ..

The intercooler helps .. ! yess of course, and to much, good intercooler and more presure in the turbo system doing a lots ..

Note that the CT-20 stay rated by stock to 9 psi.

 

[harveya]

I am seriously considering a 1HD-T for my FJ60. For the reasons that you state above. My knowledge of Toyota Diesel engines is limited, so I am interested to hear about your mileage, gearing, and especially, what intercooler works well witht the 1HD-T.

Thanks for uour comments.

M

I looked at one from Australia from Air Power Systems. The APS Safari intercooler at 1700 A$ plus shipping. Looks good to me.

The mileage on mine is 140K Miles, gearing is standard (not sure what the ratio is). I will be looking to het the Intercooler later this year or next year money permitting.

The APS intercooler is a front mount unit that goes in front of the A/C condenser behind the grill. All fits up neat so you wouldn't know that it is fitted from the outside. Looks a really well designed system.

I get about 26mpg overall at the moment with the stock engine - it's an auto, manuals can get up to 30mpg.

 

[acylon]

I am currrently looking into a diesel swap for a fj80 too. I wonder if we could get a group deal from your mechanic, HAHA, JK. I do live in the NW US. What is the differnce between 1HD-T and 1HD-FT? What is the mechanics number?

 

[beanz2]

I am seriously considering a 1HD-T for my FJ60. For the reasons that you state above. My knowledge of Toyota Diesel engines is limited, so I am interested to hear about your mileage, gearing, and especially, what intercooler works well witht the 1HD-T.

Thanks for uour comments.

M

Keep in mind Mike, an IC kit for an 80 may not fit into a 60 right out of the box as the plumbing and the space for the IC itself would be different. I am sure it can work with some fabrication though.

Dave

 

[beanz2]

BTW, the stock turbo is a CT26, but a CT 26 off a Supra or an MR2 would not fit into the 1HD(F)T.

Dave

 

[VTCruiser]

I am currrently looking into a diesel swap for a fj80 too. I wonder if we could get a group deal from your mechanic, HAHA, JK. I do live in the NW US. What is the differnce between 1HD-T and 1HD-FT? What is the mechanics number?

basically-
1HD-T : 12v
1HD-FT: 24v
1HD-FTE: 24v elec injection

 

[Mike S]

I looked at one from Australia from Air Power Systems. The APS Safari intercooler at 1700 A$ plus shipping. Looks good to me.

The mileage on mine is 140K Miles, gearing is standard (not sure what the ratio is). I will be looking to het the Intercooler later this year or next year money permitting.

The APS intercooler is a front mount unit that goes in front of the A/C condenser behind the grill. All fits up neat so you wouldn't know that it is fitted from the outside. Looks a really well designed system.

I get about 26mpg overall at the moment with the stock engine - it's an auto, manuals can get up to 30mpg.

Thanks, Harvey...

That kind of mileage (along with the additional power) is very attractive. The payback on the cost is easy to calculate...

Cost of engine, 5 speed, extra parts and install - $15k estimated

Cost of driving 2F to 200K miles (14 MPG @ 2.10/US gal.) = $30K

Cost of driving 1HD-T to 200K miles (28 MPG @ 2.10/ US gal.) = $15K

So the payback point is about 200K miles. Something I would expect to do over the next 5 to 8 years, based on my current truck usage. If I ran biodiesel, I could save significantly more - processing some fuel myself. Further, if I deduct the $3K it would take to completely remanufacture the current 2F at, say, 250K miles (currently at 160K), the payback would some sooner.

But the real benefit is the power to travel at good speeds in the mountains, power for pulling a trailer, and to roll on the highway at 80 MPH without stressing the engine.

I wonder what a nicely tuned 2F with a new H55F would bring...?

M

 

[cruiseruser]

Don't stop Mike, this is all music to my ears! I'm pretty excited about the home brew at 20 cents/gal. too. My running gear (1hd-ft and five speed,) get's on a boat heading this way next week. Take care, Ryan.

 

[Mike S]

Don't stop Mike, this is all music to my ears! I'm pretty excited about the home brew at 20 cents/gal. too. My running gear (1hd-ft and five speed,) get's on a boat heading this way next week. Take care, Ryan.

What transmission will you have? I assume a H15X? It is my understanding that these only work with the full time 4WD transfer case. I would like to hear more on what you're getting...

Sheldon says that there is a way to fit the H55F to the 1HD-T using an Isuzu clutch and different input shaft. I assume the same would apply to the -HD-FT. This would allow the use of the standard split case, and with a little luck, the tranny cross member would not have to be moved or the drive shafts modified. Mudrak seems to think that it is doable. He says that he can do the swap, but "expensive". Still, I believe that in the long run, the economics are better than installing a SBC V8.

I have looked at dropping a Vortec 5.3 crate motor in, and it is cheaper, and a very good motor. But who wants a truck that's just like everybody else's?

M

 

[beanz2]

What transmission will you have? I assume a H15X? It is my understanding that these only work with the full time 4WD transfer case. I would like to hear more on what you're getting...

Sheldon says that there is a way to fit the H55F to the 1HD-T using an Isuzu clutch and different input shaft. I assume the same would apply to the -HD-FT. This would allow the use of the standard split case, and with a little luck, the tranny cross member would not have to be moved or the drive shafts modified. Mudrak seems to think that it is doable. He says that he can do the swap, but "expensive". Still, I believe that in the long run, the economics are better than installing a SBC V8.

I have looked at dropping a Vortec 5.3 crate motor in, and it is cheaper, and a very good motor. But who wants a truck that's just like everybody else's?

M

The H150f also comes mated to a part time case, I'm not sure about the H151f, I suppose it does as some petrol 80 series come as part time 4WD as well.

Another method to mate the H55 to the 1HDT is to use a 1HZ flywheel or redrill the HDT flywheel for the smaller 1HZ clutch pressure plate.

Dave

 

[harveya]

BTW, the stock turbo is a CT26, but a CT 26 off a Supra or an MR2 would not fit into the 1HD(F)T.

Dave

That will teach me, thought I kenw more than I actually do, thought the 1HD-T used the CT20 like the 2LT, just bought one on eBay as a spare, guess I'll be selling it then.

DOH!!!!

 

[Mike S]

...Another method to mate the H55 to the 1HDT is to use a 1HZ flywheel or redrill the HDT flywheel for the smaller 1HZ clutch pressure plate.

Ahhhh. I see. But this assumes an H55F with an input shaft that is set up for a diesel, right? Thanks, Beanz.

M

 

[beanz2]

Ahhhh. I see. But this assumes an H55F with an input shaft that is set up for a diesel, right? Thanks, Beanz.

M

This assumes only an H55f with a 1HZ input. There other diesel H55f's out there like those mated to the 3B and the 2H that have altogether different input shaft length or spline count.

Dave

 

[Mike S]

Of course they do! Why should this be simple?

M

 

[cruiseruser]

What transmission will you have? I assume a H15X? It is my understanding that these only work with the full time 4WD transfer case. I would like to hear more on what you're getting...

Sheldon says that there is a way to fit the H55F to the 1HD-T using an Isuzu clutch and different input shaft. I assume the same would apply to the -HD-FT. This would allow the use of the standard split case, and with a little luck, the tranny cross member would not have to be moved or the drive shafts modified. Mudrak seems to think that it is doable. He says that he can do the swap, but "expensive". Still, I believe that in the long run, the economics are better than installing a SBC V8.

I have looked at dropping a Vortec 5.3 crate motor in, and it is cheaper, and a very good motor. But who wants a truck that's just like everybody else's?

M

Hey Mike. I'm not even sure which tranny it is. Only that it is 5 speed and has 68k on it. Here's a couple photos of the donor vehicle in the U.K. BTW the engine is still available. Don't have a price. Does anyone have any ideas for a cheaper intercooler?