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I am doing a resto-"mod" on my 1972 FJ40 in the sense that I am putting on power steering, dropping in 2F with 4-speed, and some other upgrades while trying to stay as OEM as I possibly can. I cannot do body work and my tub is rusty enough that body shop recommends replacing rather than fixing up to my spec (I want panels that look OEM).
So I looked at Teseven, which has gotten good reviews and their product looks reeeal nas. Unfortunately, they don't make the tub for 1972 with built-in tool box under driver seat. Also their drilling pattern on the cowl wouldn't be a perfect match, which isn't that big a deal since they offer to send it without drilling holes.
Their product looks awesome and I really want stainless steel, so I'm trying to make it work. It would be a big investment so I'm doing my due diligence so I know what I'm getting into and hopefully avoid mistakes others have already made. I have several of questions:
1) Looking at Teseven pictures, it appears to me that the model 40 tub is intended to fit ~1975 and later FJ40s (I have also reached out to them to ask). Do others agree/disagree? Would Teseven's tub bolt directly onto my frame 1972 without modification? I looked at this forum: FJ40 Body Compatibility. It appears that body mount locations are the same for 1968-1978 (I am taking this from prior forum and fact that Aquala's aluminum tub is listed for 1968-1978 models). Picture of Teseven's model 40 tub from their order form below.
2) Has anyone put a Teseven model 40 tub on an pre-1975 FJ40 before? I would love to discuss that process with you.
3) Given that the later tub is made for 2F + 4-speed, and I am dropping in a 2F + 4-speed, I imagine I should be fine with spacing for the transmission. I will need a new doghouse, and I figure I could buy one for a 1975+ and it would bolt right on. Any problems on the interior that might arise from this?
4) I am doing an FJ60 power steering conversion and using my existing column to fit stock steering wheel. Any issues with this when using later tub?
5) What all won't fit when I start to put the car back together? I started a list below...
- No tool box so I will need different driver seat mount or maybe new seat altogether. Can I still have the middle/passenger bench seat though which would also keep the gas evap in the middle seat back?
- Can I use my stock gas tank with the later tub?
- Gas filler hole would be square instead of the semi-circle I currently have. Would I need different filler neck? Maybe I could cut out my steel semi-circle and weld it onto the stainless tub if I really wanted?
- Windshield frame fitment problem. Looking at Toyota part numbers, looks like there was a change in 1975. Could someone describe what modification is needed to use my old 1972 windshield frame?
- Door latches on front doors may not lineup - looks like another 1975 change. I believe Poser said on another thread that new latch holes could be drilled. Do the hinge holes line up?
- Newer tub would be setup for rear ambulance doors instead of swing out doors that came on my vehicle. As I understand it, the bottom ambulance doors hinge holes are at the same spot as the barn door upper hinge holes. Is that right? If so, I figure I would only need to add holes (and maybe captured nuts?) for the bottom barn door hinge holes.
- According to this thread (FJ40 Hardtop Interchange), it appears that the hard top sides from a 1972 should fit without modification on a ~1975 or so tub. Is this a fair assumption?
- Are there things that go on a later model tub in a different place that go somewhere else on an early model tub (or don't go on an earlier tub at all)? Rear jump seat mounts in same location? When I work with Teseven I'd want to avoid drilling holes for things that I wouldn't need. I do want to put in a roll bar so hopefully the tub comes pre-drilled for that. I can't think of what else though
MANY THANKS to those that make it through this book and share their thoughts and experience.
So I looked at Teseven, which has gotten good reviews and their product looks reeeal nas. Unfortunately, they don't make the tub for 1972 with built-in tool box under driver seat. Also their drilling pattern on the cowl wouldn't be a perfect match, which isn't that big a deal since they offer to send it without drilling holes.
Their product looks awesome and I really want stainless steel, so I'm trying to make it work. It would be a big investment so I'm doing my due diligence so I know what I'm getting into and hopefully avoid mistakes others have already made. I have several of questions:
1) Looking at Teseven pictures, it appears to me that the model 40 tub is intended to fit ~1975 and later FJ40s (I have also reached out to them to ask). Do others agree/disagree? Would Teseven's tub bolt directly onto my frame 1972 without modification? I looked at this forum: FJ40 Body Compatibility. It appears that body mount locations are the same for 1968-1978 (I am taking this from prior forum and fact that Aquala's aluminum tub is listed for 1968-1978 models). Picture of Teseven's model 40 tub from their order form below.
2) Has anyone put a Teseven model 40 tub on an pre-1975 FJ40 before? I would love to discuss that process with you.
3) Given that the later tub is made for 2F + 4-speed, and I am dropping in a 2F + 4-speed, I imagine I should be fine with spacing for the transmission. I will need a new doghouse, and I figure I could buy one for a 1975+ and it would bolt right on. Any problems on the interior that might arise from this?
4) I am doing an FJ60 power steering conversion and using my existing column to fit stock steering wheel. Any issues with this when using later tub?
5) What all won't fit when I start to put the car back together? I started a list below...
- No tool box so I will need different driver seat mount or maybe new seat altogether. Can I still have the middle/passenger bench seat though which would also keep the gas evap in the middle seat back?
- Can I use my stock gas tank with the later tub?
- Gas filler hole would be square instead of the semi-circle I currently have. Would I need different filler neck? Maybe I could cut out my steel semi-circle and weld it onto the stainless tub if I really wanted?
- Windshield frame fitment problem. Looking at Toyota part numbers, looks like there was a change in 1975. Could someone describe what modification is needed to use my old 1972 windshield frame?
- Door latches on front doors may not lineup - looks like another 1975 change. I believe Poser said on another thread that new latch holes could be drilled. Do the hinge holes line up?
- Newer tub would be setup for rear ambulance doors instead of swing out doors that came on my vehicle. As I understand it, the bottom ambulance doors hinge holes are at the same spot as the barn door upper hinge holes. Is that right? If so, I figure I would only need to add holes (and maybe captured nuts?) for the bottom barn door hinge holes.
- According to this thread (FJ40 Hardtop Interchange), it appears that the hard top sides from a 1972 should fit without modification on a ~1975 or so tub. Is this a fair assumption?
- Are there things that go on a later model tub in a different place that go somewhere else on an early model tub (or don't go on an earlier tub at all)? Rear jump seat mounts in same location? When I work with Teseven I'd want to avoid drilling holes for things that I wouldn't need. I do want to put in a roll bar so hopefully the tub comes pre-drilled for that. I can't think of what else though
MANY THANKS to those that make it through this book and share their thoughts and experience.
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