13BT glow controller options.......

[DieselFJ]

I am looking for a Pre/Post glow controller options for my 13BT. The FJ40 13BT conversion was completed about 5 years ago. I kept the 24v glow screen and installed a "Wilson Switch" type switch which only glows the pre side of the screen. Anyway, I don't like how it works and I would like to change it to a key switch glow that has pre and post glow cycles. I also need to find a 12v glow screen to replace the 24v glow screen that I currently have. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Scott

 

[roscoFJ73]

There are a range of aftermarket glow timers on ebay.

 

[DieselFJ]

Thanks for the response. I searched but didn't find what I was looking for, I will never claim to be the best at searching..... I will try to modify my search on Ebay tomorrow to see if I can locate something. With that being said, if there are a variety of timers, are there any that you or anyone else would recommend for my application?

Thanks For Your Time
Scott

 

[roscoFJ73]

Search under "glow timer" I double checked just after I posted and there were a few options on there.
To be honest, an auto electrician told me none of them last a really long time. You'll probably get a few years out of it.
So its either that , the wilson switch or go back to stock.

 

[DieselFJ]

I wouldn't mind going back to stock, but finding the 12v 13BT parts associated with the timer hasn't happened for me yet, I'll post in the classifieds again to see if I can locate the parts. I will check Ebay under "glow timer" instead of "glow controller" to see what I can come up with.

Thanks
Scott

 

[DieselFJ]

So I found the receipt from the last place I purchased one which was Redarc inc. in Australia. Sad thing is they no longer sell glow timers. So I am continuing my search.

 

[bj40green]

Search for: glow timer or glow plug timer and you'l get this: https://www.google.com/search?q=glo...=JnJlVPTcIerjsASA7oGQAg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAA&dpr=1

Rudi

 

[DieselFJ]

Search for: glow timer or glow plug timer and you'l get this: https://www.google.com/search?q=glow timer&rlz=1C1CHHJ_enCR399&espv=2&biw=1024&bih=649&source=lnms&sa=X&ei=JnJlVPTcIerjsASA7oGQAg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAA&dpr=1

Rudi

Checked the link and it looks like there are at least some options, I'll look further into the details tomorrow, but thanks for the link. I may have to start a repair thread next, it just got cold around here and I found myself getting jumped because my battery wouldn't roll her over, I have a few ideas but.....Ugh problems like this are tough when the Cruiser is your daily driver.

 

[lostmarbles]

12V intake heater assy for 13BT is 19810-58030

And the best source is probably a wrecker in Australia who has a Dyna (BU61, 62, 65,or 85) dating between Aug 84 and Aug 88 (running either 11B or 13B engines).

For what little this is worth...

(New they'd cost an arm and a leg ..... IF they're even available that is )

 

[DieselFJ]

12V intake heater assy for 13BT is 19810-58030

And the best source is probably a wrecker in Australia who has a Dyna (BU61, 62.65,or 85) dating between Aug 84 and Aug 88 (running either 11B or 13B engines).

For what little this is worth...

(New they'd cost an arm and a leg ..... IF they're even available that is )

Thanks for the info. It looks like it might still be available new, but I would rather save some cash and buy it used. Does Australia have a site like Car-Parts.com to search for parts? Do you have a place you would suggest I call or email?

Thanks for the info
Scott

 

[lostmarbles]

Thanks for the info. It looks like it might still be available new, but I would rather save some cash and buy it used. Does Australia have a site like Car-Parts.com to search for parts? Do you have a place you would suggest I call or email?

Thanks for the info
Scott

Hi Scott.

I'm not in Australia

We have wreckers here in New Zealand that may have what you want but we are so small that just one city in Australia, such as Melbourne or Sydney, has a bigger economy than our whole country does. So I think your chances are better in Oz. (Not to mention the fact that those Dyna models I mentioned above are all listed as "ARL" ... which means "Australia" ....on Toyota's database.)

Unless an Aussi comes along with better advice, I'd just get into "Google Australia" and search for "Commercial Toyota Wreckers" to come up with possibilities such as this:
http://usedtoyotaparts.com.au/Commercial_Vehicles.php

 

[DieselFJ]

Hi Scott.

I'm not in Australia

We have wreckers here in New Zealand that may have what you want but we are so small that just one city in Australia, such as Melbourne or Sydney, has a bigger economy than our whole country does. So I think your chances are better in Oz. (Not to mention the fact that those Dyna models I mentioned above are all listed as "ARL" ... which means "Australia" ....on Toyota's database.)

Unless an Aussi comes along with better advice, I'd just get into "Google Australia" and search for "Commercial Toyota Wreckers" to come up with possibilities such as this:
http://usedtoyotaparts.com.au/Commercial_Vehicles.php

Sorry, didn't mean to imply you were in Australia, just was wondering if you have used that resource before. Thanks for your help, I am hoping to get a few things sorted out on my 40 so I don't have to suffer the humiliation of being jump started by a chevy again. Another question, do you know if the 12v 13bt's ran dual or single batteries? Just wondering since I just found out that my battery is no good I may want the extra starting power of two batteries just not sure if it is necessary.

Thanks again
Scott

 

[roscoFJ73]

Ive heard the Bogaard timers are not too bad. http://www.bogaard.com.au/glow-plug-timers/
In Australia ,ARB are one of their stockists. Maybe an ARB store in the US would have one or order it in. I think these are around $200 each , double the cost of most others. I dont have enough experience with them to say which is the best value.
They have two types,one with a pulse option which might be better in cold climates.

 

[lostmarbles]

... do you know if the 12v 13bt's ran dual or single batteries?
Thanks again...Scott

Hi again Scott

The 70-series 13BT 12V cruisers got only one battery.

I'd recommend getting the largest commercial one you can though ...

Here's what I run and I enlarged my battery tray to accommodate it:

Those are rated at 700CCA and the reason my pic shows two is because the left one was old and was being replaced by the new one on the right.

 

[roscoFJ73]

Another question, do you know if the 12v 13bt's ran dual or single batteries? Thanks again
Scott

The Australian models would have been single battery. All landcruisers here have been single battery unless you asked for the 2nd battery to be fitted by the dealer.
Most places are not that cold here ,so for most owners cold starts are not a problem.

 

[roscoFJ73]

Those are rated at 700CCA and the reason my pic shows two is because the left one was old and was being replaced by the new one on the right.

I had 2 of them in my 75 series ute. I left the headlights on all day and it still started ,just.

 

[DieselFJ]

Ive heard the Bogaard timers are not too bad. http://www.bogaard.com.au/glow-plug-timers/
In Australia ,ARB are one of their stockists. Maybe an ARB store in the US would have one or order it in. I think these are around $200 each , double the cost of most others. I dont have enough experience with them to say which is the best value.
They have two types,one with a pulse option which might be better in cold climates.

I'll check the bogaard controllers out today. I don't mind the $200 if it is good quality like the Redarc I ran in the past, I want something I can rely on.

Thanks for everyone's input on the batteries. I believe I am going to run two batteries to help start in cold weather. Around here in the winter highs can be in the single digit Fahrenheit so after a 10 hour day at work I need some cranking power. I found the real issue for me running two batteries is finding space under the hood. I found a Commercial Exide battery 625CCA that I believe might fit as a pair on the left/drivers side of the vehicle, but it will be tight, but would give me 1250CCA @0 Fahrenheit. The other option is putting the batteries on either sides of the radiator. The problem I see with this is I would then have to relocate my radiator overflow and washer fluid bottle which I haven't found a great place for these to be relocated. I'll take pictures of what I am looking to do. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Scott

 

[RufusTheDufus]

That Bogaard unit will require an external relay. It only switches 6 amps. I'd be a little worried about using the afterglow function with a mechanical relay or something like a Ford starter solenoid switching on and off every 2 seconds for 60 to 120 seconds each time I start the vehicle whether the engine is cold or hot. A high current solid state relay might be a better option for use with the Bogaard unit.

The Redarc was a superior product.

 

[DieselFJ]

So, just a quick update. I haven't had time to do much with a controller yet, but I did have a chance to install dual batteries which has made a huge difference for starting in the cold. Attached are a few pictures of the progress. As soon as I do something with the glow controller I will post that as well.

Scott

 

[DieselFJ]

So, I'm back to it. Now that it's getting cold again I'm working on getting a controller and 12v screen for my 13BT setup. As I've been looking at the options I believe I might just go with the factory glow timer instead of the Bogaard timer. The only reason for this is Bogaard's lack of temperature sensor input. I found a used 12v timer so I just need to find the connector that will work with it. I might need a little help with the wiring when I get to that point, but it doesn't look too complicated. The other problem I have been dealing with is finding the 12v glow screen. So what I have done is completely dis-assembled my 24v screen and am looking at cutting down the size of the screen so to get a resistance of .125Ohms instead of the .3Ohms that it currently has. I will also match the second screen so the post-glow will function the same. This is the number that I believe will give me the most overall glow, at a reasonable Amp draw. I'm just wondering if this sounds reasonable to the electrical guru's on the board.

Thanks