04 LX470 Rear AHC Cushion, Bushing, and O-Ring Replacement (1 Viewer)

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I have an 04 LX with ~271k miles that I am slowly updating as much of the rubber bushings and cushions as I can take. This is my experience replacing the 2 cushions, lower bushing, o-ring and backing washer for both rear AHC shocks. Looks like there are 2 camps, one is cut the floor pan and access from above, other is attack everything from under the car. Initially I was the in the latter, thinking it best to avoid cutting but quickly switched sides when I actually got under the car. Yes it is possible to remove the shock from under the car, but I don't know how someone could replace the o-ring and split backing washer from under the car.

I parked car on flat surface, chocked front wheels and set height control to Low. I removed the spare (didn't need too) and jacked the rear up and placed on jack stands. I removed the passenger side tire (having the many times glued back together center cap give up on me) and tried to access the 12mm bolts from the wheel well with a 12mm flex ratchet socket. Somewhere someone mentioned being able to bend the seam out of the way, on my car this didn't work. The area behind the shock bent easily however there was another panel that was joined just about the exact location needed access the bolts. The easily bent seam became very difficult to bend. So I went under the car to try from there. My LX has rear AC and there are 2 hard lines that run right in front of the area one would need to access the 12mm bolts. I was able to get the flex/ratchet end on one of the bolts but only the very tip of the open end stuck out past AC lines. I could have put another box wrench on it but was concerned any slipping would destroy the AC lines. After 30 mins of trying different positions, angles, and curses I gave up and started pulling rear seats and pulling up carpet.

I spent a huge amount of time trying to remove the absolute minimum amount of material to access the bolts and disconnect the shock. I would drill just enough, grind just enough again and again. It was a total waste of time. Save your sanity and just prepare yourself cause to really get this done you are going to end up cutting out about a 4" section of the raised ridge. The reason the large cutout is not the shock bolts but the access to get at the o-ring and backing washer. This is the cutout on the driver side I did in about 20 mins compared with the 2-3 hrs I spend on the passenger side trying to only remove the minimum amount.

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I used a hole saw and drilled at an angle towards the center of the cutout to keep the pilot bit as shallow as possible. I then used a jigsaw with a metal blade and a piece of 1/4" plywood between the jig saw and the floor to keep the down stroke as far away from stuff below. The front and back ends of the hole is the trough between the ridges. Once the access hole is cut, I bled the globe and removed the 2 12mm bolts. Those were little but took way more effort to break free than it should have, and there was hardly any corrosion. After the bolts are out, the AHC fitting was carefully pried off. I used an impact with a 22mm deep socket to remove the shock nut. Then went underneath and remove the 17mm shock mount bolt. I had to undue the sway bar to make enough room to move the shock off of the mounting post. Just a friendly warning, the slightest compression of the shock will cause AHC fluid to leap out of the shock. I strongly suggest shoving a rag into the cutout whenever the AHC fitting is not attached. Once the shock was out, I taped a plug in the top and changed out the lower bushing. With the new bushing pressed in, I went back to replace the o-ring and backer ring in the AHC fitting.

Once again, the reason for the large cutout is access to the AHC o-ring. I think you could get the shock out with only a 2" hole but then you are faced with this:

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This is the view from below, the AHC fitting is in a little pocket formed by the shock bracket below and floor pan above. This picture is enlarged, the hole in the shock bracket is about 1.5 inches, the opening in the fitting is 3/8" ish. The o-ring is up inside the fitting inside a groove, you can see in the pic, the ID of the o-ring is just about the same size as the hole in the AHC Fitting. With the car on jack stands it was to high to access laying down and the car was too low to sit up underneath. I had some brass pics that I tried to get at the o-ring but they kept bending. I was worried that if I went at it with a steel pic I would scratch something I shouldn't have from the akward position I was in below. At this point on the passenger side I went back up top and started removing more and more floor to get at the AHC fitting.

The AHC fitting has a section of hard pipe attached which connects to a what I can only assume is a very short or very stiff section of rubber hose. I could only rotate the fitting about 90 degrees, any more and I thought I would break something. Even at 90 degrees, it didn't want to stay so I attached a bar clamp to one of the ears of the AHC fitting, the end of the bar clamp was clamped to the 2nd row seat bracket.

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From here I was able to remove both the o-ring and split backer ring using a wide variety of picks and tweezers. Getting the new o-ring installed was one of the more frustrating parts of this, only out done by getting the new backer ring in. What worked for me with the o-ring was to place the o-ring parallel to the face of the opening and then start working one part through the hole until I had the whole thing pushed inside the fitting. Then I had to use an inspection mirror and multiple picks to hold the part of the o-ring that was in the groove in place while trying to corral the part of the ring that was not in the groove.

With the split backer ring, I pulled the two free ends to make a curly/spiral shape as was able to work in one end and slowly push the rest of the ring into the groove below the o-ring. This works great for about 90% of the ring, the last 10 is tough. I had to hold the ring in place with a pick and use a flattened pick to expand the ring into the groove. This took quite a few tries until I finally got it. There has to be a better way to do this...

Once the ring and backer ring were replaced it was time to reassemble. I put mounted the shock on the lower post first, this let me get everything set up top. This step was frustrating as well, everything needs to be lined up just right in order to get enough threads of the shock above the upper washer to put the 22mm nut back on. A second pair of hands here would be useful, of course I was working along. I used a jack and piece to 2x4 to hold the upper part of the shock in place. I swear I would get everything aligned, look away for a second, and when I went back, it would have would jumped out of position. Here is a pic of the jack and 2x4, there is very little load on the jack, it is just holding the shock in place while I get the upper nut on.

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Once the top nut was on, I moved the jack to under the axle and slowly lifted the side of the axle until the AHC fluid was just at the top of the strut, at this point I put reconnected the AHC fitting. I painted the exposed edges of the cutouts and taped them up for now just in case I need to access in case of leaks. The passenger side took me 5 frustrating hours. I knocked out the driver side in about an hour once I had a feel for what to do. Hopefully this helps someone who decides to venture down this road. If there is an easier way to do this please share.
 
You get bonus points for tenacity. What a story. Great photos, too.
 
What's the size of the O-ring?
How come I missed this thread? Really great detail here. And your cruiser looks very clean and new. Mine looks like a dirty rust bucket in comparison.
I have a couple of Qs: @fdmsiv
As one rear shock is leaking too much to pass the MOT, I am in the prosess of changing it. After 2 days of fighting with rusted exhaust and rusted shock bolts, I have the old shock out and a new (reconditioned) shock to go in. Of course I didn't think of ordering a new O-ring, but, if I knew the size I could go to a specialist hydraulic fittings shop nearby to get one.
And what is this "Back Up RIng" as it's called in the FSM? Where is it? I can see the O-ring deep inside it's groove, but I didn't want to dig it out before I have a new one. (In case I have to re-use it to make it to my MOT-appointment in time). Is this split backer ring in the same groove?
 
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You can remove the AHC hose from the shock and bring it out to make it more accessible. No need to cut the floor. The back up ring is a plastic ring that sits in front of the rubber gasket. It’s a flimsy piece of plastic with a slit. To put it in, you sorta have to “screw” it into place. I recommend you get double the number of backup rings that you need, because you will screw up a few trying to put them in.

Best way I found is to make sure the o-ring is in the groove, there should be a gap in this groove where the back up ring sits. You gently “screw” this backup ring into place. Use a pick to seat it in properly. If you “squeeze” the backup ring, you will ruin it and it won’t sit properly.

Again, get a few extra, you’ll know what I mean when you see it.
 
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The O-ring is 11x16 mm, 2.5 mm thick rubber. I picked it out carefully, not too difficult.
Still haven't seen the back up ring tho'. Is it sitting in the same groove as the O-ring?
The O-ring I suppose I can get anywhere, but the backup ring might be a special one-off t0yota item.
 
The O-ring I suppose I can get anywhere, but the backup ring might be a special one-off t0yota item.
A back-up ring is a common fitting accompanying o-rings (sometimes one on either side of the o-ring in some applications). Depending on the application, some back-up rings are contoured, some are not, some are split, some are not. Generally back-up rings are made of a high durometer (hard) rubber, nitrile, PTFE, or similar material. The purpose is cope better with high pressures with less extrusion of the o-ring material into the clearance gap which is being sealed, aiming at longer life and better reliability of the o-ring seal at higher pressures.

By way of some examples, in the AHC system the back-up rings used where the 'globe' fits to the Damping Force Control Actuator are of the split type of a hard material (PTFE?). The back-up rings accompanying the o-rings found at the gear-cases inside the AHC Pump are not split. I have never had the courage to deal with the Rear AHC-type 'shock absorbers' and I cannot speak for the back-up rings in the hydraulic connections there!

The point is that back-up rings are a common item not limited to Toyota/Lexus nor its AHC/TEMS system and are routinely supplied by specialist o-ring suppliers. Perhaps a trip to a competent hydraulic workshop or hydraulic supplier might reveal a suitable replacement? Toyota/Lexus must buy these things from a supplier somewhere -- hard to imagine that they are an item unique to Toyota/Lexus 100 series vehicles with AHC.
 
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My question is, how is this done at the dealer? I have never seen a service manual/software from Lexus (like I did for the BMWs) and I expect there would be step-by-step instructions there where this is shown without cutting anything. If anyone knows how this is actually done at the dealer, I would be awesome to hear.
 
The FSM says only: "Remove the O-ring and back up ring from the pressure hose fitting." and: "At the time of installation, replace the O-ring and back up ring with new ones." The "Components" drawing doesn't show any details, only that two rings go between the pressure hose fitting and the top nut of the shock, the O-ring on top of the back up ring.

Did some more digging in the pressure hose fitting today and found the famous back up ring. It is indeed in the same groove together with the O-ring. Can't understand why the groove couldn't just be a bit narrower instead of having to push another flimsy ring in there. (I expect to be corrected here, Indro?)

Regarding drilling hole, or not; I had the same experience as fdmsiv (OP) above here. There is really no way to get into that gap without destroying something, especially when things are as rusted as on this one. If you look at the first pic of this thread, there is a plastic cover a bit further "inland" (at the 11" mark) from where he made the access hole, so what's the problem with another such covered hole?. This cover is for a 65 mm hole, part # 90950 01924. So I drilled a pilot hole from below and used a hole saw of 64 mm to make a hole in the floor. Through this hole I could access all three screws/bolts. The two 12mm (actually M8 x 20 bolts) were impossible to unscrew, so I ended up grinding the heads off with a mini belt sander. For the main nut I used a breaker bar after securing the shock on the underside with my biggest spanner and two clamps. Then a rattle gun for few minutes. The impact wrench couldn't break it loose at 675 Nm, so that's why the breaker bar first. (Have to get a bigger impact)
Might have to grind away a small mm of the hole in order to get the OEM cover in there, as the hole saw is a mm to small. I got hold of covers for this job long time ago - at least I managed to plan something right :)
 
The rubber hose is flexible enough that you can bring it out and down. You will need to crawl in front of the rear wheels. At least that’s how I did it. I then re-routed the hose back to its perch above the rear shocks once I replaced both rings. It’s impossible to torque the shock nut or the 12mm bolts to correct spec…so just gut n tight
 
This is the access you get with a 65 mm hole, and all the dirt and rust collected over 19 years on salted roads, together with a mix of WD40 and ahc fluid. Here, both 12 mm heads are ground off, and ready to attack the main nut:
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This is the end result, with a OEM cover sealing the hole completely. Had to carve away a layer of sound deadening just around the edge for the cover to seat properly. Up is forward on this pic, and it's the right hand shock. The only dismantling to do to get access, is to remove the two front plastic 3rd row seat mount surrounds (one T20 screw each). The location of the hole is just between two carpet parts which are welcroed together. No removal of seats or carpets required. The new cover to the right and an existing, factory cover to the left, halfway covered:
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Here's the part #:
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Here's the modified shock, where the rusted through dust shield is cut off and replaced with a Ø 75 mm plastic pipe and a stainless 2.5" clamp:
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Close-up of the two rings. New on left, old to the right:
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The O-ring is harder than any other O-ring I've seen. The size is ø: 11.45, Ø: 16.55, T: 2.5 mm.
The "split washer" is ø: 11.9, Ø: 15.8, T: 1.27 mm.

If the groove for the O-ring had been the same size as the ring, I wouldn't have been able to get it in there without a risk of scoring the ring, so the 2-ring solution is a sound one. (See Indro's words above). So the O-ring went in first, then the spacer second, closest to the opening of the pressure hose connector. Put the split ring flat against the opening and carefully bend one end into the grove and work around the circle. I had to slightly push the tail end in so that the chamfered ends would mate inside the groove. This did put a slight force on the O-ring so that it will keep it's shape. Thanks to Orion above.
It was still easy to push the connector down onto the conical end of the shock, and it kept tight even after lifting the suspension to High.
 

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