Might want to rethink that number just a weeeee bit. It's about $2200 to do an SAS/rear lift on a mini truck right now... Add to that an axle (Dana44), locker, steering box on custom mounts, etc. Add another $1500 in tires/wheels and $200 to regear the rear and you should be all set. And all...
ACK - has the same exhaust crossover as the Tacoma... I'm curious what Toyota is smoking.
And in the last pick in this post, it looks like the frame is butt-welded together... Beth they sliced a 4Runner frame, but welded it and called it done. Makes me wonder how much planning Toyota has...
Has nothing to do with the capabilities of a 100, nor has it ever. I'll have to go back through the threads and point out your pro-IFS anti-SFA posts, but it won't be happening right now. If I've mis-quoted, I'll apologize.
My point still stands - Toyota has an opportunity to build...
I try. :D :D
But I do realize that most 80 owners won't take their truck through there as well... nor will most Taco owners, 4runner owners, Tundra owners, or FJ Cruiser Owners... you are correct - 100%.
The point is that when tough obsticles are mentioned, the response is "if you want...
I think you just proved his point, Shotts... You won't take your 100 anywhere near the box... And that Lexus - "completing" the rubicon meant taking a lot of by-passes. If that's hard core wheeling to you, then great for you. But it's not hard core for others.
"Go buy a jeep..." Thanks...
You stated that all of these vehicles, with the exceptions of the Rubicon's lockers, were borrowed from other vehicles... You are wrong. Spell out to me where you are right? Spell out to me where Toyota doesn't ALREADY HAVE these same off-the-shelf parts available to build the truck that...
What are you smoking? NONE of those vehicles were constructed w/ OTC parts. The Vette has nothing in common w/ anything else that Chevy sells, nor the Viper with anything that DC sells. The Lightning has an engine/suspension not available in anything else and you already mentioned the...
What about the 50k+ TJ sales per year? The nearly 100K Grand Cherokee sales per year (prior to the '05 version) or the 100K+ Dodge SFA truck sales per year?
I've owned 22 toyotas... but they no longer offer anything that I would consider worth buying. Toyota - it's your father's...
Interesting... If Toyota sponsors, even if to a small extent, a SAS swap on a Taco to increase off-road performance, it means that the engineers are completely stupid... Even if it's just a marketing gimic, it certainly flies in the face of Toyota's intense marketing of the FJ Cruiser as an...
MTR's on the Rubicon were already mentioned.
Tell that to DC - swaybar disconnects available on the Power Wagon...
DC put some very nice sliders (.120 rolled) on the Grand Cherokee Orvis edition...
The point? Other manufacturers are doing it, why not Toyota?
BS... Wrangler a) has more ground clearance than that b) Taco cannot out-wheel a Rubicon, I don't care how much you've smoked....
I'm a toyota loyalist through and through, but let's get our heads out of the sand... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
But... they are not. Rear axles and suspension are completely different. 4Runner is setup for and available with a V8, something the Taco will never have. The 05 taco did finally get upgraded to the 8" front diff and updated 4Runner R&P steering.
The 4Runner frame is, from all that I've...
LOL! Name one available in the US that comes anywhere near the Rubicon!
Seriously - put the Toyota fanatacism down for a moment and do a point by point comparison. The Rubicon is everything that the FJ Cruiser should be. It's just the state of the state...
Frankly, I agree with the comments about Jeep. DC is listening to people, Toyota is not. I don't care how much of a Toyota loyalist anyone is, you'd have to be blind to believe anything else.
The Rubicon, Rubicon Unliminted, Grand Cherokee Orvis Edition (no longer available), Power Wagon...
It'll be a long time, Steve... Unless you run a Marlin MC09 adapter and old-style tcases, you'll never be able to run an FZJ-80 axle... the new "Cruiser" is a Driver's side drop tcase... That makes a Dana44 out of a JEEP the most likely candidate for axle donation... :D :D
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