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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    I have finally done the unthinkable and returned to pin mount shocks. I put the Ironman Foam Cell Pro on my 2” lifted ‘04 4Runner and was so blown away that I have them on my 80 and also in the rear of my lifted ‘04 Sequoia. I am using the 4” lift spec shocks with 4” Dobinson Flexi coils. I...
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    And here is my shock travel with a 10” travel Fox 2.0 remote reservoir, eye to eye with upper mount eye adapter dropping the mount 1.25”. Bumpstops are dropped 2”, which perfectly protects the upper travel limit. That’s right in the center of the shock and spring travel and for me a...
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    Not for the rear - the 4” Flexi are longer at almost 23”. Below is compared to the 3.5” F.O.R. Gen II coil it replaced. There are 5 dead winds on this rear coil - it could handle a bit over a 30” extended length shock without unseating. @GW Nugget this may be useful on the specs post as you...
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    If you want the best possible performance for your rig, a well informed user community is the only way to get there. When I got here in 2005, the hive told me you needed 6”’ of lift to properly run 35s. When 33’s fit stock. The OME hive wanted to sell me the same shock for a 3” lift as stock...
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    That sounds like trying to make OME work.
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    So all four corners are sitting at 5.25” hub to fender, tape measure wrapped around a 37x12.5 with a 1” wheel spacer. No weight on the front, 150 lbs or so in the cargo area.
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    Took about an hour to do both sides, but fronts are super easy so long as you drop both sides at the same time to the max stock brakeline extension. I did use spring compressors - didn’t need much, maybe 2”. I didn’t feel like scratching up the paint to lever them on, but probably could have...
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    That’s a 2” extension. The front only uses 3-4” of up travel flex in side to side articulation, but a big hit at speed can easily bottom your shocks because the bumpstop can compress. I’d always debated whether or not to use it and finally decided it made sense for high speed running. i.e. the...
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    Dobinson’s front 4” Flexi installed. This coil is shorter than the rear, about 22.5” free height. Way more coil than the front can use in any case - I dropped the whole front end on both sides to the stretch point of the brakeline, leveraged out the old coil with a 4’ bar and kick method, and...
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    You’ll need about 1.5” bumpstop drop to barely protect a 17” compressed shock length in the rear. There’s no magic. This is 2” drop for 17.25. You can see how much travel is left. How much you believe a rubber stop can compress on a hard hit in terms of how much extra you want...up to you...
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    Out of curiousity, what was the intended purpose of 3” bumpstop extensions? Given how OME designs their base kits, what you experienced sounds like a proper output of the design. This makes sense. If you change a ROM limiter in isolation, it’s going to have an effect. “Articulation” is...
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    You definitely can’t add dead coils forever - if you look at the FOR and Flexi coils side by side in my pics, the active winds are essentially the same, so the base rate of the active coils on the Flexi has to be lower or I would have gained a couple inches of lift. As far as spacing down...
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    Yes, it is. This coil is ironically exactly what I’ve been harping about not being on the market, based on a simple idea that a coil can be lengthened with inactive winds to the extent you want to keep doing it. There’s a limitation to keeping the shock travel in the sweet spot of the coil...
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    I’ll post up about the fronts when they arrive. I’m suspicious that they are only 23” free coil length given the rear coil length. The rears are about 3” longer than the FOR Gen II dual rate coils they replace, and have two extra inactive winds. I run a 10” remote reservoir Fox shock that...
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    Hopefully adding something useful this time. First @GW Nugget is right - the color scheme is meant to be: It’s like adding teenage girl nail polish to toxic sea foam. Second, the free height of the 4” Flexi rear coils is almost 23” - that spec was missing in the original post. Having seen...
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    That’s what I had thought in my first impressions, thanks for the confirmation.
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    ^^^the question related to static load is are you riding in the transition zone between rate 1 and rate 2? If so, moderate added load (passengers, gear) will not affect suspension feel as rate 2 engages, whereas higher static load (overlanding accessories) effectively makes the coil linear as...
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    The FOR are a dual rate coil, same diameter wind (not tapered). It was something like 170/260, but been too long for me to remember exactly. From GW’s initial post on this thread, the flexi look more like a progressive than dual rate looking at the bottom of the spring in this pic, these...
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    Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more.

    Anybody have free height length specs on the 4” rear flexi? This coil looks to be very close to the FOR Gen II that I run that are about 20” free height in the rear. I run eye adapters and use a 10” travel Fox 2.0 remote res shock that is 26.10 extended, so adding about an inch for the eye...
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