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  1. MrMikeyG

    New Badland Apex 12,000 lb. Winch

    This doesn't apply directly to the new "apex" winch, more to the buying a budget product mindset. it looks like the Warn VR 10k can be had for a bit under 600 bucks ( unless the vr evo is not the same then maybe 600-700)? If a person is dealing with an ARB bullbar, chances are that whatever...
  2. MrMikeyG

    New Badland Apex 12,000 lb. Winch

    Ok. Thanks. There was an attractively priced Warn used for sale locally to me a while back, but when I researched it, there was no moving the control box. Water under the bridge at this point.
  3. MrMikeyG

    New Badland Apex 12,000 lb. Winch

    is the Warn VR the one with the "permanent" control box though?
  4. MrMikeyG

    New Badland Apex 12,000 lb. Winch

    I got a "mailer" for this thing as well. While everything sounds nice on paper, to me the price point doesn't make sense; at 600, I would save a bit more and get a tried and tested winch. I was able to get out the door with the normal Badlands 12k for under 275, which for the time being, did...
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