New Toyo Open Country R/T Trail (1 Viewer)

[lx200inAR]

Anyone running these yet? Looks like they came out for reviews 3rd-4th quarter last year. 4WP was the only big retailer i could find letting you order them.

The Open Country R/T Trail is an On/Off-Road Rugged Terrain Tire.

The Open Country R/T Trail rugged terrain tire delivers better off-road grip than a traditional all-terrain tire, most evident in sand, mud, and deep snow.

www.toyotires.com

Can't tell from the literature if it's going to replace the old R/T or if it's supposed to somehow slot in with the R/T between the A/T III and the M/T.

Most of the standard 17 and 18s available. A few of the 17s in C and D load and the rest are E/F. Not really any skinny talls available if you are into that sort of thing. (LT285/75R18 is the closest thing).

If you are still rocking your 20s, they have some options as well.

 

[TimCFJ40]

Looks like an updated Ridge Grappler, and I would suspect it will eventually overtake the Toyo RT spot in the line up. (Nitto and Toyo are sister companies so I am sure they shared notes). It looks like a pretty decent tire.

 

[Tex68w]

They aren't out yet for the public but they should be coming soon. A buddy of mine used to own a large shop here in Texas (just sold it) and he got the first set of 37's in Texas two days ago and he had to go direct to the warehouse in order to take delivery of them. He helped develop them and is running them on his 3rd Gen Raptor.

I would have likely gone with these had they been available but I didn't want to wait any longer and chose the old reliable KO2's instead. RT's are one of my favorite tires I have ever run and I liked the RG's as well and these look to be the newest iteration of both wrapped up in one tire so they should do quite well.

 

[clrussell]

Not sure about not available to the public yet.. I’ve sold 2 sets.

They seem pretty solid. Maybe a touch louder than ridge grapplers, which is possible given the larger lug voids.

 

[Tex68w]

Not sure about not available to the public yet.. I’ve sold 2 sets.

They seem pretty solid. Maybe a touch louder than ridge grapplers, which is possible given the larger lug voids.

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Well lets put it this way, the large retailers don't have access to them yet.

 

[clrussell]

Well lets put it this way, the large retailers don't have access to them yet.

Oh makes sense.

 

[YSackett]

I was about to pull the trigger on a set of LT275/70R18 Nitto Recon Grapplers for my 100 series LC when I saw the Toyo R/T Trail. For those that have had Ridge Grapplers and/or Recon Grapplers, what are your thoughts about the comparison between them and the R/T Trail? Seems like the Toyos will likely be $50-60 per tire more expensive. Will the R/T Trail likely be louder than the Recon Grappler? Is the additional cost buying you any meaningful increase in quality?

 

[Tex68w]

They are basically the same tire, I personally think the RT Trail looks a little better but they just came out so there will be better feedback on the Recons. I have a few buddies running the Recons for a while now and they seem happy with them.

 

[UPR LC]

These will be my next tires in 295! Seem very similar to the tread of the Cooper Discovery ST MAXX, which I had before on another truck and liked a lot. I never quite liked the tread on the ridge grappler, but these I like. Looking forward to reviews.

 

[clrussell]

I was about to pull the trigger on a set of LT275/70R18 Nitto Recon Grapplers for my 100 series LC when I saw the Toyo R/T Trail. For those that have had Ridge Grapplers and/or Recon Grapplers, what are your thoughts about the comparison between them and the R/T Trail? Seems like the Toyos will likely be $50-60 per tire more expensive. Will the R/T Trail likely be louder than the Recon Grappler? Is the additional cost buying you any meaningful increase in quality?

The recon will be quieter.

 

[YSackett]

New set of R/T Trails on today. I know this thread is in the 200 series forum but thought y’all might like to see anyway. At least my rims are from a 200

 

[Gazziza]

Ran these through some s***ty conditions in Moab. Was in The Maze 2 weeks ago. They look guuud though.

So my observations running these after having the Open Country AT3's previously are good so far. Ran the same size 285/75/17 as the AT3's. They've got a bit more road hum but it's not M/T levels. The reason why I switched to the RT Trails after the AT3's after 10k miles is for mud performance. Last time when we ran the White Rim trail the AT3's had a difficult time in sloppy mud. I needed a bit more shoulder lug and mud performance but did not want to step up to a complete M/T. I still plan to keep the AT3's and transfer them to my other vehicle. I'm still not quite sure how I feel about the AT3's. I bought them for winter performance but I thought they were a step behind the Falken Wildpeak AT3W's. I wasn't quite blown away with their winter performance and I think the LC's 4WD system made up for some performance issues.

For those on the west coast, 2 weeks ago there was a massive snow storm pretty much throughout the west. Massive accumulations in the mountains and even at lower levels. So we drove from Boise all the way to Goblin Valley during the snow storm. Lots of snow drifts and slush on the highways. I-15 heading south from Ogden to SLC there were multiple car accidents. The RT Trails did great IMO. Never a worry about sliding out or anything in winter driving conditions. The road report for The Maze was muddy, snowpacked, winter conditions and they recommended chains. We ended up running chains for the Flint Trail which was essentially impassable unless we wanted to work all day, which we didn't. It was a mix of mud, ice, slush. The rest of the time on deep, thick water and mud crossings I thought the tires did great. Unfortunately my buddies Jeep broke down the first night on the trail so we didn't go much further as we escorted him out to tow. We made it to the Happy Canyon campground but had to give up our reservations at Maze overlook and the dollhouse

So far I have nothing bad to say about them. They're a good mix of on and off road performance and survived a snow storm. They have the cons that you'd expect from an RT tire (a little louder, a little heavier) but I don't think you'll complain about the durability and off-road performance. True winter performance is still yet to be determined.

 

[Tex68w]

Ran these through some s***ty conditions in Moab. Was in The Maze 2 weeks ago. They look guuud though.

So my observations running these after having the Open Country AT3's previously are good so far. Ran the same size 285/75/17 as the AT3's. They've got a bit more road hum but it's not M/T levels. The reason why I switched to the RT Trails after the AT3's after 10k miles is for mud performance. Last time when we ran the White Rim trail the AT3's had a difficult time in sloppy mud. I needed a bit more shoulder lug and mud performance but did not want to step up to a complete M/T. I still plan to keep the AT3's and transfer them to my other vehicle. I'm still not quite sure how I feel about the AT3's. I bought them for winter performance but I thought they were a step behind the Falken Wildpeak AT3W's. I wasn't quite blown away with their winter performance and I think the LC's 4WD system made up for some performance issues.

For those on the west coast, 2 weeks ago there was a massive snow storm pretty much throughout the west. Massive accumulations in the mountains and even at lower levels. So we drove from Boise all the way to Goblin Valley during the snow storm. Lots of snow drifts and slush on the highways. I-15 heading south from Ogden to SLC there were multiple car accidents. The RT Trails did great IMO. Never a worry about sliding out or anything in winter driving conditions. The road report for The Maze was muddy, snowpacked, winter conditions and they recommended chains. We ended up running chains for the Flint Trail which was essentially impassable unless we wanted to work all day, which we didn't. It was a mix of mud, ice, slush. The rest of the time on deep, thick water and mud crossings I thought the tires did great. Unfortunately my buddies Jeep broke down the first night on the trail so we didn't go much further as we escorted him out to tow. We made it to the Happy Canyon campground but had to give up our reservations at Maze overlook and the dollhouse

So far I have nothing bad to say about them. They're a good mix of on and off road performance and survived a snow storm. They have the cons that you'd expect from an RT tire (a little louder, a little heavier) but I don't think you'll complain about the durability and off-road performance. True winter performance is still yet to be determined.

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What broke on the Gladiator?

 

[Gazziza]

What broke on the Gladiator?

It was a different Gladiator not seen in the pictures. It was leaking oil and throwing codes. So we essentially abandoned the truck and drove to the nearest town, Hanksville, and bought pretty much every quart of oil we could. It would essentially drink 6qts of oil every 100 miles or so. We were able to get it back up and running and limped it to Farmington, NM and had it towed back to Albuquerque NM. I'm not sure what the status is quite yet on the truck.

 

[Tex68w]

It was a different Gladiator not seen in the pictures. It was leaking oil and throwing codes. So we essentially abandoned the truck and drove to the nearest town, Hanksville, and bought pretty much every quart of oil we could. It would essentially drink 6qts of oil every 100 miles or so. We were able to get it back up and running and limped it to Farmington, NM and had it towed back to Albuquerque NM. I'm not sure what the status is quite yet on the truck.

3.6L gasser or the eco diesel?

 

[Gazziza]

3.6L gasser or the eco diesel?

It was the gasser that had issues.

 

[04UZJ100]

It was the gasser that had issues.

Junk

 

[Gazziza]

Junk

To be fair is was certainly not stock. The Jeep (not the one pictured) has about pretty much every bolt on known to man on it and was significantly over GVWR. I think a big part of the issue was self inflicted and may not have occurred on a stock Jeep or one within GVWR.

 

[04UZJ100]

To be fair is was certainly not stock. The Jeep (not the one pictured) has about pretty much every bolt on known to man on it and was significantly over GVWR. I think a big part of the issue was self inflicted and may not have occurred on a stock Jeep or one within GVWR.

Engine shouldn’t be the failure point of a truck - even one grossly overloaded.