I may be taking mine apart soon. CDL light has been flashing every morning since we got to Colorado. Works fine after it warms up and I restart the truck but I’m just waiting for the morning it doesn’t.
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Part IV of V
Clocking the motors correctly was done by watching the video posted earlier in the thread. Below are the screen shots from that video for correctly clocked upper (CDL) and lower (4Lo), respectively:
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For the rods, the lower (4Lo) rod should be pushed into the transfer case all the way. The upper rod should be sitting so that the actuator motor gear contacts the rod at the 9th tooth. You have to count by feel as you lay the actuator up top. I sprayed penetrating oil into the rods and got them moving pretty freely with my hands ahead of putting the new actuator on. A bit of oil came out of the transfer case. I assume that’s normal.
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Part V of V
The new actuator is working great! The CDL and 4Lo engage quickly and easily. The breather tube is installed correctly and has a tight fit as well- so I expect the actuators to keep working for quite a long time. I plan to engage the CDL and 4Lo a couple times each month to keep them in good working order moving forward.
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The old actuator and new rods are packed nicely ready to ship. They’re up for grabs at cost of shipping. I would be happy if someone wants to rebuild this unit or otherwise mess around with it. Let me know and I’ll ship it out your way.
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Ok… Time to wash up and enjoy a nice Sunday Shower Beer. Nothing better.
Cheers…
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Perfect- that's what I was hoping. Maybe we can get a MUD chain going off of old actuators (that sounds way dirtier than I mean it to).@Diff Kraken if nobody else takes you up on your offer for the actuator in the next couple weeks please let me know. Mine gave me problems *every* morning while I was above ~7k' in CO, but of course now that I'm down to sea level it's been fine the last few days. I'm planning to take mine apart at some point this fall and it'd be helpful to have done a rebuild beforehand so I can just swap in one I've cleaned up and bench tested (and then offer the same shipping option to the next person), though I probably won't have a chance to do it for a couple months.
Part IV of V
Clocking the motors correctly was done by watching the video posted earlier in the thread. Below are the screen shots from that video for correctly clocked upper (CDL) and lower (4Lo), respectively:
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For the rods, the lower (4Lo) rod should be pushed into the transfer case all the way. The upper rod should be sitting so that the actuator motor gear contacts the rod at the 9th tooth. You have to count by feel as you lay the actuator up top. I sprayed penetrating oil into the rods and got them moving pretty freely with my hands ahead of putting the new actuator on. A bit of oil came out of the transfer case. I assume that’s normal.
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Part V of V
The new actuator is working great! The CDL and 4Lo engage quickly and easily. The breather tube is installed correctly and has a tight fit as well- so I expect the actuators to keep working for quite a long time. I plan to engage the CDL and 4Lo a couple times each month to keep them in good working order moving forward.
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The old actuator and new rods are packed nicely ready to ship. They’re up for grabs at cost of shipping. I would be happy if someone wants to rebuild this unit or otherwise mess around with it. Let me know and I’ll ship it out your way.
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Ok… Time to wash up and enjoy a nice Sunday Shower Beer. Nothing better.
Cheers…
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Yeah shipping would be essentially a "core charge".Perfect- that's what I was hoping. Maybe we can get a MUD chain going off of old actuators (that sounds way dirtier than I mean it to).
Maybe you take his and I'll take yours when you're done?Great work, Kraken, and outstanding documentation. I'll DM you about shipping...after my on-truck fix of the actuators, I have some ambition to rehab one of these more thoroughly. Thank you for sharing the work here!
I made an edit to my post to make perfectly clear, you essentially just push both rods in all the way. With the top rod, that happens to be the 9th tooth of the rod engaging with the motor gear. Honestly, it was not difficult. I watched that filipino guy's video and did as he did. The hardest part is keeping the pieces all together in the CDL actuator when you lay it up top, but I used a stiff ziptie drapped across it to hold everything in place. Again, I copied what the guy in the video did.Yeah shipping would be essentially a "core charge".
I wish swapping the actuator was stupidly simple (idiot-proof). Moving the actuator rods is part of what scares me, TBH. I suspect there are others like me who *could* do this but aren't entirely comfortable with it (particularly after seeing a couple threads where people had all sorts of flashing lights at first because they did it wrong). I'm assuming from what I've read the R&R on the motors isn't terribly difficult but I know if I pull mine apart and can't get it back together correctly I'll never hear the end of it from my wife, so would be good to be able to bench test rather than have to pull and reinstall it a few times. (You'd think it'd be nothing but you're talking to the guy who had to futz with rebuilding his backflow preventer for his sprinkler system like 4 times before he realized one of the check valves was installed backwards).
@isthatalexus As discussed via DM, it just shipped out your way. @linuxgod send a PM his way and hopefully you guys can figure something out and keep the MUDship moving with these actuators.Great work, Kraken, and outstanding documentation. I'll DM you about shipping...after my on-truck fix of the actuators, I have some ambition to rehab one of these more thoroughly. Thank you for sharing the work here!
Got it. Mine is a ‘14 LC and it comes up as the $1100 part.Think some of the confusion lies in what vehicle you’re trying to fix. The OP I believe was for a 200 Series LC. The $1100 P/N that are referencing is the one I found when I researched for my ‘08 Sequoia. Calling a dealership - any dealership if you don’t like your local one would be helpful to determine the correct part.
Got it. Mine is a ‘14 LC and it comes up as the $1100 part.
Ours has 112k and the issue has been coming up on a more frequent basis (2-3x per week). The repair process doesn’t look too difficult, but my concern is setting the orientation of the gears once the new unit is disassembled and then reassembled to the existing rods. Did you guys have any issues with setting that during installation?Yup- I used Toyota Part No. 36410-60112 that I bought off eBay from a UAE seller for ~$700 delivered. It is listed as being for a 2008-2011 200 series (LC and LX 570). I'm not sure what difference, if any, there is for a '14 200 series.
You're correct, for your 2014, they list Toyota Part No. 36410-60113. I see an Aisin brand version listed on eBay for $639. I would personally prefer one out of a Toyota OEM box, but given that these are having issues anyway, it may not matter- and as you saw- the OEM one for your '14 only seems to be available for $1,100. Regardless, make sure to keep the breather hose attached properly and to exercise the CDL and 4Lo monthly and either one should go for a good long time.
Any reason that you don't want to just clean yours up on your '14? I replaced mine on the '08 because it's got 175k miles on it and thought that was enough out of the original unit for a replacement cost of $700. I also did not want any downtime for the truck as it's currently our family's only vehicle, so I was happy to be able to pop in a new one and have the truck out of commission for less than 2 hours.
I've had the same concern, which is why I haven't done mine yet. My CDL was flashing pretty much every morning in Colorado this summer though. I definitely think cooler temps and/or lower air pressure affects it. I will likely need to R&R mine soon... probably won't get to it before winter though and my garage is too cold to work in during the winter here unfortunately.Ours has 112k and the issue has been coming up on a more frequent basis (2-3x per week). The repair process doesn’t look too difficult, but my concern is setting the orientation of the gears once the new unit is disassembled and then reassembled to the existing rods. Did you guys have any issues with setting that during installation?
I agree about sticking with the Toyota parts vs Asian - even though these have begun to fail, it still took 8+ years to become an issue.
@linuxgod that makes sense on the transmission manufacturer being changed. Figured there had to be a reason beyond model year alone.
It was not difficult to get the gears clocked correctly. Watch the video I used and just make sure to push the rods in all the way when you put the actuators back on. Once you visually study and understand the way the gears go it becomes pretty obvious and should mentally click. I had an ah-ha moment when I took mine apart and then wasn't worried at all about putting it back together correctly.Ours has 112k and the issue has been coming up on a more frequent basis (2-3x per week). The repair process doesn’t look too difficult, but my concern is setting the orientation of the gears once the new unit is disassembled and then reassembled to the existing rods. Did you guys have any issues with setting that during installation?
I agree about sticking with the Toyota parts vs Asian - even though these have begun to fail, it still took 8+ years to become an issue.
@linuxgod that makes sense on the transmission manufacturer being changed. Figured there had to be a reason beyond model year alone.
It was not difficult to get the gears clocked correctly. Watch the video I used and just make sure to push the rods in all the way when you put the actuators back on. Once you visually study and understand the way the gears go it becomes pretty obvious and should mentally click. I had an ah-ha moment when I took mine apart and then wasn't worried at all about putting it back together correctly.