Goose Gear 80 Series Engine Replacement (1 Viewer)

[White Stripe]

I've been to cruise moab lots of times. It's fun don't get me wrong. But sometimes things just don't work out. If they are doing quality work just let them finish and try to end it on best of terms as possible. This is a problem with old Toyota's-they take time. Some shops do only old toyotas and can get it done faster as a result. Other shops will have to go slower to get you done. Hopefully they know how to break in a motor properly. The first miles are the most critical to get right. Personally I've crammed for big offroad trips lots of times. Sometimes though I bite off more than I can chew and just have to cancel the trip to get the job done right. That's my opinion anyway.

 

[Broski]

Dude so sorry to hear this.

The way I see it you have no choice but to let them finish the job.

I hate to say it but I would be more concerned about them doing it right, form the pictures you have posted I see parts spued all over the place. some of your parts where lost. From what you saying the owner has no conscious and is down right lying to you.

To rush them at this point makes no sense. I think you said he was your long time mechanic, bring him a case of beer and try to patch things up give him room to do the job right. If that doesn't work threatened to knock him out just kidding.
Like others have said there well be next year to take the 80 to cruise Moab, hell you can run a trail or two with me, I well even let you give it a go with my 80 if you like

The problem with these kinds of jobs is it's hard to make money with them there time consuming. There not like a smaller job where theirs a book price and a good mechanic can knock it out in less time and make good money.

Plus 80s takes a true mechanic not today technicians that just plug in a scanner and have it tell them what wrong. Most shops don't even want to work on them.

Were all pulling for you and hoping they get done Right, keep posted.

 

[SoCal80series]

I've been to cruise moab lots of times. It's fun don't get me wrong. But sometimes things just don't work out. If they are doing quality work just let them finish and try to end it on best of terms as possible. This is a problem with old Toyota's-they take time. Some shops do only old toyotas and can get it done faster as a result. Other shops will have to go slower to get you done. Hopefully they know how to break in a motor properly. The first miles are the most critical to get right. Personally I've crammed for big offroad trips lots of times. Sometimes though I bite off more than I can chew and just have to cancel the trip to get the job done right. That's my opinion anyway.

This situation, unfortunately, isn't about giving time to finish. Friday will mark the beginning of month 11 on this project. This is a case of the owner telling his wife to prioritize other projects over mine because he doesn't think I will come back after this. Consequently, my engine is likely to never be finished by him.

 

[SoCal80series]

Dude so sorry to hear this.

The way I see it you have no choice but to let them finish the job.

I hate to say it but I would be more concerned about them doing it right, form the pictures you have posted I see parts spued all over the place. some of your parts where lost. From what you saying the owner has no conscious and is down right lying to you.

To rush them at this point makes no sense. I think you said he was your long time mechanic, bring him a case of beer and try to patch things up give him room to do the job right. If that doesn't work threatened to knock him out just kidding.
Like others have said there well be next year to take the 80 to cruise Moab, hell you can run a trail or two with me, I well even let you give it a go with my 80 if you like

The problem with these kinds of jobs is it's hard to make money with them there time consuming. There not like a smaller job where theirs a book price and a good mechanic can knock it out in less time and make good money.

Plus 80s takes a true mechanic not today technicians that just plug in a scanner and have it tell them what wrong. Most shops don't even want to work on them.

Were all pulling for you and hoping they get done Right, keep posted.

If I thought he was going to finish it, I would let him finish it. But when his wife told me that he is prioritizing other vehicles over mine that told me he doesn't plan on finishing it period. He is going to let it sit in his yard in perpetuity. He has had my 80 going on 11 months. In that time I have not so much as raised my voice at him and have been nothing but kind. He took my 80 in and hadn't even begun to work on it for six weeks last July. SNLC reached out to me and stated he was interested in doing the job. I told him that I would reach out to my mechanic and tell him that I had someone else who would do it if he didn't have the appetite for it. When I talked to my mechanic I told him that I knew he wasn't going to be making any money on the project, but he told me that was true and was appreciative that I understood this, but he liked to take the big jobs like this to keep the job interesting. With that I passed on SNLC's offer.

I am not trying to rush my mechanic, but rather keep him on task. Last week the only thing accomplished was having the harmonic balancer and the fuel filter installed. That is about one hour of work tops. I've learned this last year that even the slightest inconvenience will cause the project to stop. When I forgot to order the gears for the camshafts I delivered it to him and he said that he would take it to the machinist. Two weeks later I called the machinist and he hadn't gotten them. I went down before work and pulled out the parts and delivered them myself. I then picked up the head myself and delivered it because he wouldn't pick it for some time if I didn't. Right now the impediment is pushing my 80 into his garage. The driveway sits about three-degree angle and it makes it tough to push it. Our 80s are heavy. If I don't push him then my 80 will sit there for the next three months because he doesn't want the inconvenience of pushing it up that slope and 32 feet to his bay.

It's all moot now anyway for the reason mentioned above. I am hoping (and praying) that what his wife said is true. That when I go by on Wednesday I will see my Cruiser in the bay and out of the parking lot. I am not hopeful, however.

 

[Broski]

If I thought he was going to finish it, I would let him finish it. But when his wife told me that he is prioritizing other vehicles over mine that told me he doesn't plan on finishing it period. He is going to let it sit in his yard in perpetuity. He has had my 80 going on 11 months. In that time I have not so much as raised my voice at him and have been nothing but kind. He took my 80 in and hadn't even begun to work on it for six weeks last July. SNLC reached out to me and stated he was interested in doing the job. I told him that I would reach out to my mechanic and tell him that I had someone else who would do it if he didn't have the appetite for it. When I talked to my mechanic I told him that I knew he wasn't going to be making any money on the project, but he told me that was true and was appreciative that I understood this, but he liked to take the big jobs like this to keep the job interesting. With that I passed on SNLC's offer.

I am not trying to rush my mechanic, but rather keep him on task. Last week the only thing accomplished was having the harmonic balancer and the fuel filter installed. That is about one hour of work tops. I've learned this last year that even the slightest inconvenience will cause the project to stop. When I forgot to order the gears for the camshafts I delivered it to him and he said that he would take it to the machinist. Two weeks later I called the machinist and he hadn't gotten them. I went down before work and pulled out the parts and delivered them myself. I then picked up the head myself and delivered it because he wouldn't pick it for some time if I didn't. Right now the impediment is pushing my 80 into his garage. The driveway sits about three-degree angle and it makes it tough to push it. Our 80s are heavy. If I don't push him then my 80 will sit there for the next three months because he doesn't want the inconvenience of pushing it up that slope and 32 feet to his bay.

It's all moot now anyway for the reason mentioned above. I am hoping (and praying) that what his wife said is true. That when I go by on Wednesday I will see my Cruiser in the bay and out of the parking lot. I am not hopeful, however.

All I can say is sorry for your troubles and I hope it gets moved into the bay on Wednesday. You for sure have more patience then I do.

When you get through this and ever need work done on the Cruiser again Nelson's Garage is only a few hundred miles from you and the owner is Land Cruiser enthusiast, knows 80 series and owns a few of them. He's also a good friend of mine and my mechanic. When he's not to busy he’s here on Mud @Shoppy

 

[White Stripe]

In that case I would show up with a flat bed tow truck and a pick up truck with a bunch of blocks of wood and tie downs before the end of the week. Have it dropped off at your place or a storage unit until you find a shop to tear the motor back down to inspect its built right and put it together.

 

[SNLC]

In that case I would show up with a flat bed tow truck and a pick up truck with a bunch of blocks of wood and tie downs before the end of the week. Have it dropped off at your place or a storage unit until you find a shop to tear the motor back down to inspect its built right and put it together.

I hate to say it but man there are some particulars that need attention when building a fresh 1FZFE. We have seen some really shoddy work in the shop for “freshly” rebuilt.

Cheers

 

[SoCal80series]

In today's episode of As the 80 Turns the mechanic is now committed to finishing the project. My LC is now pushed into the bay. I was hoping to see the motor mounted and it wasn't, but the biggest obstacle (just pushing it into the bay) is out of the way. The lead mechanic had one last job to do and is going full-time on the GG80. It just might be ready for Cruise Moab after all (

). Stay tuned for tomorrow's episode!

 

[GOTLOCKED96]

In today's episode of As the 80 Turns the mechanic is now committed to finishing the project. My LC is now pushed into the bay. I was hoping to see the motor mounted and it wasn't, but the biggest obstacle (just pushing it into the bay) is out of the way. The lead mechanic had one last job to do and is going full-time on the GG80. It just might be ready for Cruise Moab after all (

). Stay tuned for tomorrow's episode!

Man sorry you have to deal with these problems. Unsure if you have used this shop before, however I feel any time I take my cruisers to a new shop everything that could go wrong will... curse of the land cruiser I suppose lol. Weather it's the shops fault or not... it just happens. Good news is that if the shop fixes the issue it can turn into a trust worthy beneficial relationship. However unsure if that will happen here.

PS why don't you make stuff in Oak/tan color lol.

 

[SoCal80series]

The day I thought I would never see has happened. The engine is in the bay!

 

[Shoppy]

I just found this thread, and am so bummed for you and your cruiser that you had to go through this. Glad to see it sitting back in the rig. Sometime things don’t go as planned but that is quite the nightmare. Just keep the hood closed at the goosegear booth And nobody will know the difference. Here are a couple after Shots

 

[SoCal80series]

I just found this thread, and am so bummed for you and your cruiser that you had to go through this. Glad to see it sitting back in the rig. Sometime things don’t go as planned but that is quite the nightmare. Just keep the hood closed at the goosegear booth And nobody will know the difference. Here are a couple after Shots View attachment 2977104View attachment 2977107View attachment 2977100

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If I had a meticulous mechanic I would have made sure he did this. Had I known at Christmas that it would be four plus months until I got it back I would have taken some of the parts like the valve cover and heat shields and the intake manifold and had them prettied up. Most important point now is getting it back. I will take it to get professionally detailed before heading to CM, if time allows for it.

 

[SoCal80series]

Slow progress on the build. I went over to the shop today and they got the exhaust hooked up to the manifold and also got the wiring harness attached to the engine. A little at a time...

 

[96eighty]

Slow progress on the build. I went over to the shop today and they got the exhaust hooked up to the manifold and also got the wiring harness attached to the engine. A little at a time...

If you were to do everything from scratch with the knowledge you have now, would you have done anything differently? I'm in a similar place as you and want everything redone right but am trying to figure out the best bang for the buck way to get the rig reliably running so have fun hitting trails and going on trips.

 

[SoCal80series]

If you were to do everything from scratch with the knowledge you have now, would you have done anything differently? I'm in a similar place as you and want everything redone right but am trying to figure out the best bang for the buck way to get the rig reliably running so have fun hitting trails and going on trips.

Obviously I would go with a different mechanic. I have worked with this mechanic for around the last 12 years and he has always been fair and honest. He gave me an exceptional deal to complete the replacement. My intuition told me to look for someone else, but I wanted to be loyal to him because he has always been good to me. Now I would take it to someone who knows 80s. In my neck of the woods that would be Yota Masters in Corona. It would have been significantly more money, but the stress and headaches that would've been saved would have been more than worth it.

As for the parts I have purchased, I have been pretty happy. I don't feel like I've bought any parts that I don't need. I'm happy that I spent the money at the end that I wasn't planning on in regards to buying a new radiator, fan clutch, and fan. After having spent so much money on a new long block it only made sense to insure that it will stay cool. The only thing I didn't do, because I didn't think to in time was to send the fuel injectors out to get properly cleaned and repaired, if needed. I only thought of that after reading it on another thread.

Some posters have pointed out that it's a disappointment that my motor looks dirty for all the money I have spent. I agree with them to a certain extent. I would have liked to have a mechanic that would take pride in making sure that every part is spic-and-span. There are a number of members here who have engine bays that pure mud porn. Some have posted here. I thoroughly enjoy looking at their engines with a tinge of envy.

 

[use2bn83]

No judgement on dirty engine bays at Cruise Moab haha. We’re a rough and tumble group. Hoping to see you there, dirty engine and all .

 

[Broski]

Some posters have pointed out that it's a disappointment that my motor looks dirty for all the money I have spent. I agree with them to a certain extent. I would have liked to have a mechanic that would take pride in making sure that every part is spic-and-span. There are a number of members here who have engine bays that pure mud porn. Some have posted here. I thoroughly enjoy looking at their engines with a tinge of envy.

My apologies for feeling disappointment in your motor rebuild. My guess is you have close to 10K or more in parts alone.
I see zero pride in workmanship in the picture below, I mean how do you keep the internals clean if everything you touch is filthy. Things don't need to be spic-span on reassembly but they should be reasonably clean.


Again I mean no disrespect or offense.

I just hope it runs really well for you. and looking forward to meeting you at CM.

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[SoCal80series]

My apologies for feeling disappointment in your motor rebuild. My guess is you have close to 10K or more in parts alone.
I see zero pride in workmanship in the picture below, I mean how do you keep the internals clean if everything you touch is filthy. Things don't need to be spic-span on reassembly but they should be reasonably clean.


Again I mean no disrespect or offense.

I just hope it runs really well for you. and looking forward to meeting you at CM.

I take no offense at all. I'm 54 - I'm not going to run away with my fingers in my ears looking for a "safe space" upon hearing criticism. I invite it. As I've said before - everyone on here wants was best for my 80 and I welcome it. At its heart this sight is about a group of people who have pride in their 80s. My 80 and I are better for it. I have learned my mechanic runs his shop like a MASH unit. Patch them up as fast as he can and get on to the next one. That was my mistake. I agree with what you said. I'll give you a little more insight at CM. Look forward to meeting you.

 

[SoCal80series]

First start! (Okay, one of the first starts):

 

[SoCal80series]

This has been one of the those projects that what can go wrong will. I had ordered a new Denso radiator from Summit Racing and didn't check the box when I got it months ago. When my mechanic went to go install it was a shaped like a parallelogram. UPS must have dropped (or thrown) it. No surprise. I called Summit and they overnighted it to me. Of course, bad weather delayed the delivery by four days. But the good news came today. Hopefully, this will get sown up this week.