New Heritage 200 fork lift flex test. (1 Viewer)

[tdcruiser406080100]

I was curious.. and I have a fork lift. And well.. just because!
New stock 200 series 2020 Heritage Edition. 708 miles.
I have about 200 or maybe 250lbs of tools in the back I normally carry around for work. Tires: Dunlop Grandtrek 285/60R18. I think about 30” tall. I lifted until the other tire on the same side lifted.. then lowered until touching. I was also curious due the the initial mysterious rear coil talk that’s in the Heritage. Seems it is different but I am not sure how other than a bit taller. I’ll find out more about those when I set up my trailer for towing. My unscientific finger test seemed that there was about 2-1/2.. maybe 3” of space above the front stuffed tire to the fender well.

At rest.. without forklift molestation.

Center of wheel to inside edge of fender.
Front: 20”
Rear: 21-7/8”
*Drivers & Passenger side were exactly the same and after the fork test thing.

Lifted. Measured from floor to bottom of tread at the outside edge.
Front: 25-1/2”
Rear: 24-1/2”

Interesting to see how this compares to non Heritage models or even aftermarket suspension.

 

[tdcruiser406080100]

I was curious.. and I have a fork lift. And well.. just because!
New stock 200 series 2020 Heritage Edition. 708 miles.
I have about 200 or maybe 250lbs of tools in the back I normally carry around for work. Tires: Dunlop Grandtrek 285/60R18. I think about 30” tall. I lifted until the other tire on the same side lifted.. then lowered until touching. I was also curious due the the initial mysterious rear coil talk that’s in the Heritage. Seems it is different but I am not sure how other than a bit taller. I’ll find out more about those when I set up my trailer for towing. My unscientific finger test seemed that there was about 2-1/2.. maybe 3” of space above the front stuffed tire to the fender well.

At rest.. without forklift molestation.

Center of wheel to inside edge of fender.
Front: 20”
Rear: 21-7/8”
*Drivers & Passenger side were exactly the same and after the fork test thing.

Lifted. Measured from floor to bottom of tread at the outside edge.
Front: 25-1/2”
Rear: 24-1/2”

Interesting to see how this compares to non Heritage models or even aftermarket suspension.

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[Madtiger]

LC200 flex is unreal.

• • Mugatu: Heritage so hot right now, Heritage.

 

[TLC2013]

Nicely done. thanks for sharing, much Braver then I would be with my 2013 lol.

 

[tdcruiser406080100]

Nicely done. thanks for sharing, much Braver then I would be with my 2013 lol.

Thanks... I did this same thing with my 40, 60s, 80 and 100.. couldn’t leave this one out! Wish I would’ve saved all those old measurements.

 

[TeCKis300]

Lifted. Measured from floor to bottom of tread at the outside edge.
Front: 25-1/2”
Rear: 24-1/2”

Noice!! We can use these numbers to compute RTI for a 20* ramp.

Formula for a 20* ramp: RTI =h / b x 2924

Where: (h)eight= 25.5 and wheel(b)ase = 112.2

RTI = 25.5 / 112.2 * 2924

RTI = 665

 

[TexFJ]

Heritage doesn't have anything special wrt KDSS, hence should have same RTI as non-heritage.... or am I missing something?

 

[turbo8]

Heritage doesn't have anything special wrt KDSS, hence should have same RTI as non-heritage.... or am I missing something?

It has different rear springs.

 

[TexFJ]

You sure about the springs? Not saying you're wrong but I just can't find that on the Toyota site.

Here's a nice vid though.

 

[Markuson]

It has different rear springs.

Right, but that slightly different spring has no different effect on available articulation of the system. The 200 is a rear articulation beast for what it is... Pretty amazing, really. If only the IFS could keep up.

 

[LBridges]

You sure about the springs? Not saying you're wrong but I just can't find that on the Toyota site.

Info on the springs having different part numbers and lengths was posted by @Eric Sarjeant. See posting here.

 

[TexFJ]

Info on the springs having different part numbers and lengths was posted by @Eric Sarjeant. See posting here.

Thanks... It's inconceivable that Toyota would not promote this fact.

 

[Madtiger]

Thanks... It's inconceivable that Toyota would not promote this fact.

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Toyota also changed the IFS carrier (?) for 2020 LC that maybe stronger...no promotion of that either.

 

[TheGrrrrr]

Noice!! We can use these numbers to compute RTI for a 20* ramp.

Formula for a 20* ramp: RTI =h / b x 2924

Where: (h)eight= 25.5 and wheel(b)ase = 112.2

RTI = 25.5 / 112.2 * 2924

RTI = 665

I don't think I have ever seen an RTI that high for a stock vehicle. I believe my 2006 Range Rover HSE came in at about 590 and that was considered high.

 

[TeCKis300]

Isn't it? It's up there. Walk quietly and carry a big stick comes to mind.

The RTI put up here is within noise and error to the Autoblog reported score of 661. I think with some basic mods - taller tires, wider offset wheels or spacers, OEM front shock spacer - it could put up numbers comparable to factory off-road specials.

I compiled a bunch of scores in another thread. Copying here.

'18 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon JLUR (bar off): 724
Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon JLUR (bar off): 718
Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon JKUR (last gen, bar off): 687
Toyota Land Cruiser Heritage Edition: 661
'17 Toyota Land Cruiser: 647
'17 Lexus LX570: 645
Jeep Gladiator Rubicon (bar off): 607
'17 Ford Rapter Supercab: 603
Lexus LX570 Sport w/chin spoiler (AHC high): 588
'10 Toyota 4runner w/KDSS: 584
'17 Land Rover LR4: 560
Mercedes G63 AMG (last gen): 534
Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon JLUR (bar on): 523
Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon JKUR (last gen, bar off): 518
'17 Land Rover Discovery: 516
Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro: 492
Chevy Colorado ZR2: 489
'14 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro: 484
'17 Land Rover LR4 (high mode): 457
Jeep Gladiator Mojave: 476
Toyota Tacoma TRD Off-Road: 468
Jeep Gladiator Rubicon (bar on): 449
'15 Ford F150: 420
'14 Ram Power Wagon: 412
Chevy Colorado Z71 (air dam removed): 410
'17 Land Rover Discovery (high mode): 377
'17 Nissan Armada: 362

 

[Madtiger]

Anyone have the RTI of the old/original DEFENDER? I heard that thing could flex like crazy.

 

[CharlieS]

580 for a '94 D90

OKRovers - 4x4 Play - RTI - 11/16/02

Oklahoma Land Rover Club

www.okoffroad.com

one got to 920 with mods (same link)


1994 Defender 90
92.9" wheelbase

285/75/16 TrXus MT Super Swampers.
Safari Gard stage II JEK suspension
Rockware rear trailing links
Removed anti-sway bars.

 

[04UZJ100]

Toyota also changed the IFS carrier (?) for 2020 LC that maybe stronger...no promotion of that either.

What? Source?

 

[Madtiger]

What? Source?

Is there no Front E-Locker for 2016+ ?

Curious has anyone had a Front E-Locker installed on a 2016+ LC200.

forum.ih8mud.com

 

[bloc]

That’s the differential carrier and I’m not sure those changes actually make it any stronger. More coverage for the back of the ring gear but not where it should make much difference (thicker on ID, for instance)

Either way, they are both 2-pinion, which is suspect. Though it’s not like many people are having front diff failures in 200s.